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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Nine
Yahoo News ^ | 5-30-04 | DONNA ABU-NASR AP

Posted on 05/30/2004 12:05:02 AM PDT by JustPiper

Picture credit: TheCabal

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"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

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KHOBAR, Saudi Arabia - Tens of American, European and other hostages were released Sunday and a gunman believed to be the lead Islamic militant holding them was arrested, a Saudi security official said, adding that two other gunmen were "in the process of being arrested."

We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm



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To: Rushmore Rocks

Happy to oblige!


1,981 posted on 06/03/2004 2:54:24 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: BearWash

The stationary light in the sky would probably be right if it was coming at you (or your general vicinity).

Not sure why they would be hearing booms afterward, unless there was other debris/smaller meteorites?


1,982 posted on 06/03/2004 2:56:24 PM PDT by rickylc
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To: liz44040
I find it interesting how the Peterson trial has popped up at this particular time (pre-terrorist attack). Reminiscent of the Chandra Levy summer pre 911. If I didn't know better I'd have thought Gary Condit hired the hijackers to get the media off his back. Now we are to be occupied with the "Who Killed Lacy Peterson" murder mystery.
1,983 posted on 06/03/2004 2:58:22 PM PDT by mindspy
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To: freeperfromnj
So, what do you think -- Fruit Loop or saw The Day After Tomorrow one time too many?

How about a Fruit Loop who saw The Day After Tommorrow one to many times.

1,984 posted on 06/03/2004 2:59:37 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: JellyJam

Be sure to rejoin us when you return. Hope you have a wonderful, safe, and happy vacation!

LOL! Not sure about the Lipitor. :-)


1,985 posted on 06/03/2004 2:59:57 PM PDT by appalachian_dweller (The RIGHT of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.)
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To: Myrddin
Eventually it collapses

The current state of the German economy is a prime example of socialism at work. Yes, there are other factors in play, but, IMO their socialist ways are the main factor.

1,986 posted on 06/03/2004 3:00:07 PM PDT by Oorang ( Those who trade liberty for security have neither)
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To: All

From another Freeper

Lemme tell you a little story, and some personal history. I run a web site called the Third Millennium Survival Web. I've let it become run down and left alone for a couple of years now. I'm a "believer" in "survival", but that doesn't mean that every person that comes along screaming about the end of the world as we know it (aka: TEOTWAWKI) is right, or even reasonable.

In years past I've belonged to the "Survival Ring" (a loosely knit group of web sites, some touting the end of the world, and others selling stuff for Y2K, etc). And I've been in many email lists.

In the olden days (roughly 5 years prior to "y2K" becoming a household word) we talked about "blizzards, tornadoes and other natural disasters" in those lists. Over the past few years, the lists for the most part (Not to MENTION most of the web sites) have been inundated and infiltrated by some of the kookiest people in the world. The majority of them appear to be "Left leaning, greenies" (my words and my own quote from an article I did a few years back) who pretend to be "right wingers". There are a vast amount of conspiracy theories running amok throughout the so-called "survival community". Over the Waco/OKC days those groups were pointed out as being "Right wing radical kooks, survivalists and militia people who were leaning towards Naziism" by the media. (That's personally why I think the groups were infiltrated by left wingers, by the way, to make the groups look worse than they were). Eventually, I left the groups and have pretty much let my web site die. I don't do much with it.

HOWEVER, I still keep up with the material through other means. Over the past three weeks, at least three people have contacted me regarding an "incoming asteroid" that "no one knows about". Being also an amateur astronomer, for thirty years now, I have attempted to verify this "astral intruder". So far, I have NOT been able to get coordinates, or find anything. I've been in contact with some large observatories, none of which can confirm anything either. I JUST visited Lowell Observatory a few weeks back.

The TRUTH is, I can't find any evidence at all for any thing like this. I will say that there is another "faction" out there who has been yelling about the "Planet X" thing, something they call "Nibiru", which is supposedly a large planet (everything from earth-sized to jupiter-sized) that orbits the sun on an extremely eccentric orbit) every "3600 years".

This "faction" has grown STRANGELY quiet over the past few months. I believe that this "comet" or "asteroid" everyone is "worried about" is simply another incarnation of the "Planet-X theory". The reason I believe this, is if there were a Jupiter sized planet out there, on an in-bound course and it's due by 2012 or so as so many have been saying, then we'd be spotting it by now on it's accellerated orbit (it would be increasing in speed as it plunges toward the sun on this orbit and would already have become visible, and since it hasn't, some folks are having to re-think their stories).

While I can not and will not discount by any stretch of the imagination the possibility (or PROBABILITY!) that the Earth WILL be struck int he future by a very large body (any scientist worth his salt will tell you it has happened many times in the past and will again, happen in the future), I can not definately verify any of the "astroid" theory. I don't think anyone can.

IF there is something incoming in the next couple of months and we (we being science) aren't SURE it is going to hit, but are pretty sure, and they JUST discovered it in the last few months, I'd say it is a SAFE bet that they aren't going to tell the public. (It'd cause panic, people to quit working, and perhaps even some countries or even the terrorists to get about their business even more quickly!) On the other hand if they found something and it is years from hitting, you're going to hear about it on the news. Period.

So far, every NEA or PHA (thats near earth asteroid or potentially hazardous asteroid) has been reported publically. There are even lists of them that are easily obtainable from the scientific sources that discover them. Orbits have been plotted and given the right sort of software ANYONE is capable of looking at the hazards (or non-hazards) posed by these objects.

If I recall correctly (and I'm probably wrong where it comes to numbers, since I always have to look them up over and over anyway) there are roughly 1500 such objects that have been mapped, plotted and we know their course within a few years, and none of them are going to "hit". Come close sometimes, yes. But close could be "just outside the orbit of the moon" too.

As another posted stated though, I guess we can just wait and see for a couple more months.

Regards, all. Rick Donaldson

15 posted on 06/02/2004 11:54:11 AM EDT by Rick.Donaldson (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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1,987 posted on 06/03/2004 3:00:46 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: mindspy

It is absolutely disgusting to see the TV Blowdried Fluffernutters spend so much time on it.
I thought that was Court TV was for.
But ignore all the terror trials and focus on some jerkoff murderer type.
Well, tawdriness, sleaze, violence and sex sell......


1,988 posted on 06/03/2004 3:01:39 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: liz44040

I'm reading it too, liz...

Well, in my spare time, which is never now that I just read this thread.


1,989 posted on 06/03/2004 3:01:39 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; GorillaMa; Letitring; Honestly
Scan this thread and check out the posts by Rick.Donaldson. He has more than one post and he makes alot of sense .

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1146228/posts

1,990 posted on 06/03/2004 3:03:44 PM PDT by Oorang ( Those who trade liberty for security have neither)
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To: Oorang

Agreed. Also, Hatred's Kingdom by Dore Gold rips the robes right off the perverted Sheikhs.

And Dollars for Terror by Richard LaBeviere.

And I just finished American Dynasty by Kevin Phillips.

And House of Bush, House of Saud is on the list.


1,991 posted on 06/03/2004 3:04:06 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: appalachian_dweller

Thank you! I haven't been home since December 2001 ... way too long.


1,992 posted on 06/03/2004 3:05:30 PM PDT by JellyJam
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To: Letitring

Where is her photo? I keep following the posts concerning this nut but haven't found the picture you all are talking about.


1,993 posted on 06/03/2004 3:09:30 PM PDT by mindspy
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To: All
Setting place mark and going offline for the evening. Have to replace my old maps with the new ones I picked up today.

Prayers up for another quiet night and another safe tomorrow.
1,994 posted on 06/03/2004 3:09:42 PM PDT by appalachian_dweller (The RIGHT of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.)
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To: Letitring; JustPiper; StillProud2BeFree; appalachian_dweller; Travis McGee; Shooter 2.5; ...
The STRANGEST thing just happened to me. I got home from taking my newfoundland dog for a swim in a friend's pool (therapy for her leg surgery) and there was a message on my machine from a special agent of the FBI on the Joint Terrorism Task Force. He didn't say "Mr......" please call us, he used my FIRST name and gave me his number which I called and got the FBI Office here in Miami. Had to leave a message on his office VM. I have no idea what it's all about. But it might be that group I reported to jeb Bush and them last year: "AMERIHAWKWATCH" or it might be one of my articles on chemical terrorism, but it's been a long time since I went to nbc school, I can't imagine they can't "whistle up" a school trained expert on the spot. I'll let you guys know.
1,995 posted on 06/03/2004 3:21:39 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic. (R.I.P. harpseal))
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To: ExSoldier

I was just thinking about that post today. Cannot wait to see what happens.


1,996 posted on 06/03/2004 3:27:40 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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1,997 posted on 06/03/2004 3:28:25 PM PDT by milkncookies (BEWARE OF PREGNANT WOMEN DISGUISED AS POLICE WHO SMELL LIKE DYNAMITE!)
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To: rickylc
I agree, there could be a trail of smaller meteors following behind.

However, the stationary light was persistent. A point-on meteor is very brief. A meteor might be in the atmosphere for only 1-2 seconds before it exits, burns up, or hits the earth.

But there have been a few recorded cases of relatively low speed, low altitude "horizontal" meteors which persisted in the atmosphere for some tens of seconds.
1,999 posted on 06/03/2004 3:37:47 PM PDT by steve86
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To: liz44040

I believe that is true. But you also have to look at the world market, not just between two countries.


2,000 posted on 06/03/2004 3:42:27 PM PDT by tmp02
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