Karachi bombs near U.S. offices

CNN) -- Two car bombs have killed a police officer and wounded at least 22 people near a U.S. diplomat's residence in Karachi, Pakistani police have said.

The first blast took place outside the Pakistan-American cultural center in downtown Karachi, not far from the residence of the American consul general. One man was injured, police said.

The second explosion -- also believed to be a car bomb -- happened nearby 25 minutes later as police, bomb disposal experts, ambulance crews and reporters gathered in response to the first explosion.

A police officer died in the second blast, while at least eight journalists, four police officers, and several bomb disposal personnel and ambulance drivers were wounded.

A U.S. State Department official said the fact that the blasts were staggered suggested the bombers attempted to cause maximum casualties by using the first bomb to draw people to the site before second one detonated.

The Pakistan-American cultural center -- a private English-language school not affiliated with the U.S. government -- has 1,000 students, mostly non-elite middle-class children, the official said.

The islamic world is so treacherous, that it's always very hard to tell what's happening or who your friends are.

each time the world accuses Pakistan and saudi arabia of not doing enough to combat terror, they come with al qaeda arrests and fantastic plots out of no where, as if they had been hiding al qaeda operatives all along,occassionaly sacrificing a few to keep international pressure off.

each time the world accuses Pakistan and Saudi arabia of complicity in terror, there are bombings in Pakistan and
saudi arabia, to show the world that they are the victims, not the perpetrators of terror.

It seems that either these two countries are behind al qaeda or atleast some people in these govts are behind it. since zarqawi is rumored to have entered iraq through iran, it appears that al qaeda is supported by all three islamic terror sponsors.

The car bommbing in Pakistan,took just one life. i doubt if international terror groups like al qaeda or their paki affiliates active in india or chechenya would claim just one life with a bombing, they'd be way too experienced for that.

considering the minimal loss of life, it appears that

It is either the pakistani govt behind the bombing, trying to show the world that it is the victim of terror and has no ties to terror group or else it's some new inexperienced outfit of al qaeda sympathizers

There are many other players in pakistan as well, the indians might want to pressure Pakistan to clampdown on pakistani sponsored terror in india or the paki shiites might want to avenge the recent rhetoric against iran

But i'd doubt if an experienced bombing in such a populated city would claim so few lives

you have to understand that terror is always used for a political motive.

to understand who was behind these bombings, we first have to look at the motive and determine who would benefit from such a bombing.

Lately, pakistan has been coming under increasing pressure for its complicity with al qaeda.

These bombings would buy portray pakistanis as victims, buy them sympathy and get the pressure off them.

or it could be a new group trying to pressure pakistani govt to ease up on alqaeda.

From the casualty count, it is obvious that the bomings didn't cause much destruction. It could mean an a conscious intent to minimize casualties and use the attack for symbolic reasons only, like the pakistani govt trying to convince the world, that it's a victim not a perpetrator of terror.

or it could be a new inexperienced group, with no prior experience in bombings.

each time we accuse the the pakis or the saudis of complicity in terror, they kill their own people to show they're the victims not the perpetrators

it is less likely, but still possible that india was behind the bombings to put pressure on pakistan to clamp down on paki terror against india. Indians are not very experienced with bombings.

the fact that the US consulate was targetted suggests that it was someone who didn't want to incur the wrath of the US. that is either the paki govt or the indians, using the bombings as a pressure tactic alone.

The relatively low body count again suggest that it was a symbolic pressure tactic.

I mean if we consider al qaeda to be the people behind 911, the kenya bombings and the USS cole, i wouldn't really expect them to fumble.

Al qaeda attacks usually are very heavy.

the saudis and the pakis in my opinion jointly control al qaeda, occassionaly sacrificing a few top leaders who have been exposed and have turned into a liability.

However i doubt if they used al qaeda for these attacks, maybe because they feared leaks.

the saudis and al qaeda have a very large presence in Pakistan almost all of the entire sunni population support them, people numbering over a 100 million.

The paki leaders pay homage to the saudis every few months. their prime minister is again in saudi arabia, busy conspiring.

But the pakis also have very good relations with iran. 25% of pakistan's people are shiite muslims, with quite a few their people in positions of power. These crooks could be bringing the saudis and the iranians together.

if you have been paying attention to recent reports about zarqawi slipping into iraq from iran, it would seem that iran supports al qaeda as well.

the islamic world is very treacherous, it could be the pakis themselves of it could be a new group sympathizing with al qaeda.

the islamic world is a very treacherous place, where you can't trust anyone and with mirrors all around you.

It's very hard to come up with suspects, considering the vast pool that would have a motive for an attack and the internal politics that drive them.

this is further complicated by the fact that muslims can be quite stupid, and their attacks might serve a motive contrary to their intended motive.

muslims are treacherous, scheming, crooked, and cruel, but inherently dumb. The stupidity also complicates an investigation by blurring the motive.

anyway any terror investigation has to begin with a motive and then narrow down the list.

Please disregard my previous reply which was made illegible by the typos.

the islamic world is a very treacherous place, where you can't trust anyone with mirrors all around you.

It's very hard to come up with suspects, considering the vast pool that would have a motive for an attack and the internal politics that drive them.

this is further complicated by the fact that muslims can be quite stupid, and their attacks might serve a motive contrary to their intended motive.

muslims are treacherous, scheming, crooked, and cruel, but inherently dumb. The stupidity also complicates an investigation by blurring the motive.

anyway any terror investigation has to begin with a motive and then a logical narrowing down of the list.

you have to understand that terror is always used for a political motive.

to understand who was behind these bombings, we first have to look at the motive and determine who would benefit from such a bombing.

Lately, pakistan has been coming under increasing pressure for its complicity with al qaeda.

These bombings would portray pakistan as a victim, buy them sympathy and get the pressure off them.

or it could be a new group trying to pressure pakistani govt to ease up on alqaeda.

From the casualty count, it is obvious that the bombings didn't cause much destruction. It could mean a conscious intent to minimize casualties and use the attack for symbolic reasons only, like the pakistani govt trying to convince the world, that it's a victim not a perpetrator of terror.

or it could be a new inexperienced group, with no prior experience in bombings.

each time we accuse the the pakis or the saudis of complicity in terror, they kill their own people to show the world that they are the victims not the perpetrators

it is less likely, but still possible that india was behind the bombings to put pressure on pakistan to clamp down on paki terror against india. Indians are not very experienced with bombings.

the fact that the US consulate wasn't targetted suggests that it was someone who didn't want to incur the wrath of the US. that it is either the paki govt or the indians, using the bombings as a pressure tactic alone. al qaeda would want to incur the wrath of the US.

The relatively low body count again suggest that it was a symbolic pressure tactic.

I mean if we consider al qaeda to be the people behind 911, the kenya bombings and the USS cole, i wouldn't really expect them to fumble.

Al qaeda attacks usually are very heavy.

the saudis and the pakis in my opinion jointly control al qaeda, occassionaly sacrificing a few top leaders who have been exposed and have turned into a liability.

However i doubt if they used al qaeda for these attacks. maybe because they feared leaks.

the saudis and al qaeda have a very large presence in Pakistan. almost the entire sunni population support them, people numbering over a 100 million.

The paki leaders pay homage to the saudis every few months. their prime minister is again in saudi arabia, busy conspiring.

But the pakis also have very good relations with iran. 25% of pakistan's people are shiite muslims, with quite a few of their people in positions of power. These crooks could be bringing the saudis and the iranians together.

if you have been paying attention to recent reports about zarqawi slipping into iraq from iran, it would seem that iran supports al qaeda as well.

the islamic world is very treacherous, it could be the pakis themselves of it could be a new group sympathizing with al qaeda.

To draw a list of suspects, you have to take a look at the players on the paki scene.

There are many players on the paki scene, almost all of them islamic, because of strong paki loyalties to islam.

1- saudi arabia; This is by far the greatest player on the paki political scene. Many pakis owe religious loyalties
to saudi arabia. saudis sustain many businesses, religious schools and politicians in pakistan. The CIA cadres recruited during the war against the soviets also had saudi controllers. osama bin laden seems to have been a joint paki-saudi- CIA resource lol.

By blending religion and businesses with influece over the paki govt, the CIA and terrror groups,, saudi arabia is the greatest power player in pakistan. At times, It wields more control than the paki govt itself.

saudi arabia not only has excellent intelligence resources in pakistan. It can literally change the direction of the country and influence important policy.

Most of the top brass of the paki intelligence are pan islamists owing their loyalties to the saudi camp because of their association dating back to the war against the soviets through the 80's.

saudi funded paki parties are extremely militant like the taliban and al qaeda.

2- the paki govt: Saudi arabia and the US each poured a billion a year into the Paki intelligence agency, the ISI during the war against the soviets.. Most of this money was used by the pakis to fuel fundamentalism at home, in afghanistan and even far away places like bosnia, chechenya, india, the phillipines,algeria and egypt.

The modern pan islamic movement, borne out of the war against the soviets was ideologized, trained and controlled by pakistan, while it was funded by the saudis, who maybe provided vague policy guidelines as well.

Pakistani intelligence services total about 10,000. They use this manpower to control hundreds and thousands of islamic parties, through which the paki intelligence operates.

Paki intelligence operatives are the controllers. They're operatives are made up of millions of islamists belonging to different islamic parties. they again are very militant.

it relies on patriotism, religion,and hatred of india, israel and america to bind the pakis together.

3- iran: pakistani shiites account for 25% of the paki population.

This population is extremely militant, funded by iran
and put into positions of power by the CIA, who see them as a persecuted minority.

Iran is the third most important player with people virtually in all govt departments in pakistan.
They have excellent intelligence on pakistan, even though they don't wield the same manipulative powers as the saudis.

iranian and pakistani officials routinely discuss joint policy every fortnight.

iran can bring life to a standstill in shiite strongholds like parachinar, jhang etc and wreak terror in every major pakistani city and town.

4- Afghanistan: Afghanistan has connections with the paki extremist elements dating back to the war against the soviets.
they can also tap into both the saudis and the iranian resources.

5- india, this is pakistan's greatest enemy, yet the weakest player in pakistan largely because of the strong loyalties of the paki people to islam. It can wreak terror only in karachi and can tap into the afghan resource at times.

it isa very weak player on the paki soil, despite pumping billions into the effort against pakistan.

Like america, their paki spies have been feeding them disinformation and passing their secrets onto pakistan.

as you can see the greatest players in pakistan are islamic countries, because the paki people have very strong loyalties to islam.

These players would most likely be the suspects in any bombing.

it is very likely that the saudis and the pakis, used the bombings in pakistan and before that the bombings in saudi arabia to fool the west that these two countries were the victims not the perpetrators of terror.

The low body count of the bombings suggest that

1- it's either the paki govt who staged the bombings to gain international support and portray themselves as the victims, not the accomplices of al qaeda.

2- it is either the saudis, the iranians, the indians or the afghans, who want to blame the bombings on particular officials or groups to get them out of the way.

3- it is a relatively new outfit of al qaeda sympathizers still practicizing with bombs.

Finally, the fact that the US consulate wasn't targetted suggests that instead of al qaeda sympathizers, the bombing was done by those who wanted some policy change,yet wanted to minimize the loss of paki lives and avoid annoying the US.

i doubt if an alqaeda bombing would result in just one person dead, considering the fact that this group has been behind deadly bombings like 911, the kenyan embassies and the USS cole.

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