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Cosby says tough words needed to right wrongs (Cosby flap follow-up)
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 5.22.04 | Bo Emerson

Posted on 05/22/2004 8:12:27 AM PDT by mhking

When avuncular comedian Bill Cosby took aim at African-American parents this week, he ruffled some feathers.

Friday he remained unapologetic.

"I can understand the sting. I feel I have to say it," Cosby said in a telephone interview.

Cosby said he was chagrined that conservative radio talk shows seized on his comments and recirculated them. Yet he said he was more concerned about protecting children in unsafe neighborhoods.

"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot," concern for the child wins, he said.

During a speech Monday in Washington at a ceremony commemorating the landmark Brown v. Board of Education decision, Cosby criticized black Americans who squandered the access to education won by those who risked life and limb to desegregate schools.

He also took aim at parents who spend $500 on sneakers for their children but won't spring for a Hooked on Phonics cassette to teach them to speak correctly.

"Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads," he said during the speech.

Cosby's comments were discussed on talk radio in Atlanta and nationally, with listeners lining up on both sides of the debate.

Atlanta host Frank Ski of V-103 said Cosby may have been "untactful," but he added "it was a conversation that needed to be brought up."

Lines from the Cosby speech were also repeated on Neal Boortz's morning talk show at WSB-AM, where a caller lambasted African-Americans who don't take education seriously.

"These people act like they don't even want to go to school, and that's what [ticks] me off," said the caller.

The Washington Post reported that Cosby earned a "stonefaced" reception from his hosts, including Theodore Shaw, the NAACP legal defense fund director, and Kweisi Mfume, the NAACP president.

Mfume, however, said he was far from "stonefaced" at the event, and he supports most of Cosby's comments.

"He said at some point in time you can't continue to blame white people for every problem that black people may have, and I agree with that."

Mfume said he disagreed only with Cosby's emphasis on "lower economic people," saying there are blacks who are "not doing enough" in every economic class.

A spokesperson for Shaw said he would not be available for comment Friday.

"I didn't want to throw cold water on the celebrating," said Cosby, but he stressed that many African-American neighborhoods were in crisis. "We've got to help these people," he said. "We've got to get the neighborhood back."

Cosby blamed lack of education on many ills that he sees in black communities.

"We should look and see how many males are incarcerated and look and see how many of them are illiterate," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billcosby; naacp
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1 posted on 05/22/2004 8:12:28 AM PDT by mhking
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2 posted on 05/22/2004 8:13:33 AM PDT by mhking (Don't wait for the translation, ANSWER ME NOW!)
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"He said at some point in time you can't continue to blame white people for every problem that black people may have, and I agree with that."

Mfume then stressed that point in time is far, far in the future, and a galaxy far, far away.

3 posted on 05/22/2004 8:17:35 AM PDT by blanknoone (I voted for before I voted against it, didn't show up for the vote except once, but left too early)
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To: mhking

Parents in general don't discipline their kids, expect them to study etc. That's what's really wrong with schools - that and that they are run by professional educators.


4 posted on 05/22/2004 8:20:38 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: mhking

What's a cubit?


5 posted on 05/22/2004 8:20:45 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: battlegearboat

The distance from your elbow to the tip of your middle finger. It is an old testament unit of measurement.


6 posted on 05/22/2004 8:22:35 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: battlegearboat

Why is there air? ;^)


7 posted on 05/22/2004 8:26:40 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: battlegearboat
What's a cubit?

LOL.

At risk of hijacking this thread, here is a link to the text of that skit. I in no way mean to make light of the subject, but it (the skit) is very funny.

8 posted on 05/22/2004 8:29:18 AM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: mhking

bump for monda AM edition


9 posted on 05/22/2004 8:32:51 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: mhking
I collect on student loans, each day I speak with people who are on public assistance with no means or desire to pay their loans. Their comments are laced with contempt and obscenities for the system they depend on to survive.
One borrower told me that all education should be free, when I asked her where the government would get the funds, she said they could "print more money". If I said everything I wanted to say to them I wouldn't last an hour on the job.

You don't even want to hear about the lawyers who owe thousands and laugh and hang up if I do manage to get them on the phone. A legal system run by lawyer politicans makes it nearly impossible to suspend the licenses of lawyers who flatly refuse to pay.
Deadbeat lawyers are as big a problem as dead beat dads, except the lawyers have the means to pay. Shakespear had it right.

10 posted on 05/22/2004 8:34:11 AM PDT by The Brush
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bump


11 posted on 05/22/2004 8:34:13 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (it's coming and if you don't get off the tracks it will run you down)
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"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot," concern for the child wins, he said."

Sigh. This is what we are fighting against. If Bill Cosby says it, he understands it. But if a conservative says it, he is a loudmouth racist.

I wish he would understand - we are not the enemy. We are the solution.


12 posted on 05/22/2004 8:35:02 AM PDT by I still care
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"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot,"

Well I guess one truthful statement by Cosby does not stop him from playing the race card. Jerk. And his shows suck too.

13 posted on 05/22/2004 8:35:57 AM PDT by evolved_rage (Where they take an arm and a leg.)
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If Bill Cosby says it, he understands it. But if a conservative says it, he is a loudmouth racist.

Sad isn’t it? We still have a lot of work to do.

14 posted on 05/22/2004 8:37:16 AM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: mhking
"We've got to help these people," he said. "We've got to get the neighborhood back."

This is the attitude which got us into trouble in the first place. As good as Bill Cosby is, he has to learn a new way of thinking which goes like this:

"These people have to start helping themselves. They have to take responsibility for their lives and then take their neighborhoods back."

We have been shoveling "help" from the outside in for 50 years and there has been no success.

15 posted on 05/22/2004 8:38:30 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot," concern for the child wins, he said.

Mr. Cosby, if you'd put aside the hateful rhetoric for a moment and listen with an open mind, you'll find that a lot of 'loudmouth conservative racist announcers' quite agree with the essence of the comments that you've made, as they are represented in this article.

To be fair, I haven't heard the whole of the original comments, or how (Limbaugh?) played them. All I have to work with what I see here.

16 posted on 05/22/2004 8:40:10 AM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: Friend of thunder

Cos is a jackass, all the more so because he should know better. That makes him worse than stupid to make comments like this about conservatives.


17 posted on 05/22/2004 8:41:18 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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He said at some point in time you can't continue to blame white people for every problem that black people may have, and I agree with that. ... but that point in time is not going to arrive in MY lifetime, because then I'd have to get a real job and change my name back to Bob Smith, or whatever it was.
18 posted on 05/22/2004 8:41:22 AM PDT by Tax-chick (It's possible that I look exactly like Olivia DeHavilland.)
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To: mhking

"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot," concern for the child wins, he said.

My Reply to Bill Cosby:

Well Bill, if you ever listened to some of these loudmouthed conservatives, you'd find they aren't racist at all. They want exactly what you want for the black youth of America. They want them to do what every American can, and should do. They want them to go to school and apply themselves, you know, learn a useful skill? (by the way, to any libs reading this, there is plenty of job training provided by the govenment for underpriveledged persons- It's called Public School- I'm not a big fan of the Public School system, but it is free, and if you apply yourself there, you can get your college paid for! Wow! what a country!) Once you have a skill, you can make money and be a productive member of society.
But Bill, this is where you go wrong in aligning yourself with the Liberal (read, Socialist) politicians in America. Liberals don't want you to have to provide for yourself at all. They want for you to be able to pick up your government supplied paycheck for producing nothing, so that you can continue doing nothing for the rest of your life. Unfortuanately, socialism has a tendency to devour itself over a certain period of time as the ratio of producers to leeches tilts more and more to the leeches.
This is what the black youth of America is learning from their parents. Either you become a Basketball star, or an entertainer (no offense to you Mr. Cosby, I know how hard you have worked to get where you are), or you collect welfare. That is the extent of many young black's ambition. And do you know what? It makes me sad.
I live on a street where there are many black families on welfare. I talk to their kids all the time. These kids are smart! They have so much potential! Unfortunately, you are right about how they speak. So, as a WASP American Conservative male I do what I believe to be my duty. I encourage them. I encourage them to work hard. I encourage them to learn to speak properly. I encourage them to read. I encourage them to ask questions. I encourage them to learn everything they can about anything at all. I encourage them to grow up to be whatever they want. Yes, many of them want to be football, or basketball players, or rappers- but many of them want to be doctors, or electricians, or military officers, and other professions as well. Regardless of what they want to do, I encourage them to work as hard as they can at what they do- and do it because they love to do it, not because of money.
Sadly, this is not what they get at home. I think you know what they get at home. So, I do what I can to help.

By the way Bill, I am a loudmouthed conservative and proud of it. Am I a racist? No.

Perhaps it's time you re-think just who your friends are, and who you align yourself with politically.

You may be more conservative than you realize.

Very Respectfully,
The Musical_Airman


19 posted on 05/22/2004 8:44:35 AM PDT by musical_airman (Be an American Patriot- Make Beer!)
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And Bill, I forgot to mention- The Chicken Heart bit still Cracks me up!


20 posted on 05/22/2004 8:45:58 AM PDT by musical_airman (Be an American Patriot- Make Beer!)
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