It Official Linus stole Linux (Microsoft FUD)

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[N3WBI3]

Torvalds claim to "invent" Linux probably false, says new study

Fri May 14, 5:49 PM ET

Washington, DC (FeatureXpress) May 14, 2004 - Popular but controversial "open source" computer software, often contributed on a volunteer basis, is often taken or adapted without permission from material owned by other companies and individuals, a study by the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution finds. Among other points, the study directly challenges Linus Torvalds (news - web sites)' claim to be the inventor of Linux (news - web sites). In one of the few extensive studies on the source of open source code, Kenneth Brown, president of AdTI, traces the free software movement over three decades -- from its romantic but questionable beginnings, through its evolution to a commercial effort that draws on unpaid contributions from thousands of programmers. Brown's account is based on extensive interviews with more than two dozen leading technologists including Richard Stallman, Dennis Ritchie, and Andrew Tanenbaum.

[N3WBI3]

If their website was not full of broken links it might be a bit easier..

[N3WBI3]

How much?

[antiRepublicrat]

How much did MS pay? Did MS pay? You simply don't know. It's

"We support a diverse array of public policy organizations with which we share a common interest or public policy agenda such as the de Tocqueville Institution." -- Microsoft Spokesman

The common agenda is, of course, killing OSS to help Microsoft's dominance and profits.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

If that's the case, then he's also financially negligent also. Web sites can be had for less than $3.50 a month. ;)

I got mine for $0.17 per month at http://qualityhostonline.com/, but I figured the guy was renting his from Microsoft, since that's who pays his bills.

[Bush2000]

You are so very wrong. Groklaw existed before it even moved to iBiblio, which had long before that received an IBM donation...

And since Groklaw melted down numerous servers, it could not get free hosting without iBiblio's help. It would have ceased to be a going concern. IBM donated hardware to iBiblio; therefore, whether you or Pamela Jones or whoever like to admit it or not, IBM is Groklaw's benefactor.

[Bush2000]

The common agenda is, of course, killing OSS to help Microsoft's dominance and profits.

Fine. How much did MS contribute? I think that the people on this thread deserve to know if this guy received any money for writing this -- and, if so, how much. Tell me. But I predict that you won't. You'll crawl back in your hole or ignore the issue, as if there weren't a difference between a $10 donation and a $100K donation.

[N3WBI3]

Judging by the website, 10$ would account for at least 90% of their webdesign budget... I mean who claims to be able to edit technology and yet has more broken links and underconstruction pages on their site than working ones.

But just for fun

http://members.aol.com/balquhain/NY020228.html

Alexis de Tocqueville Society - Million Dollar Round Table February 28, 2002 Tocqueville weekend at Palm Beach

Dr. Thomas Frist, Chairman and CEO of Columbia/HCA Healthcare Corp. and Founding National Tocqueville Chair 1984-1989, and Robert Gwyn, National Tocqueville Chair, presided at the Tocqueville weekend this February in Palm Beach. The highlight of the weekend is the induction of new members into 'La Table Ronde des Millions de Dollars'. This elite group (presently 357 strong) consists of Alexis de Tocqueville members who have donated $1,000,000 or more through the United Way. In addition to Dr. Frist and Robert Gwyn, nationally famous members of the Million Dollars Round Table include Bill Gates (Microsoft), Richard DeVos (Amway), Ross Perot (former US presidential candidate), and John Bogle (Vanguard Mutual Funds). Dr. Nelson Ying of Balquhain, Baron of Balquhain was honoured on 28 February 2002 as he was inducted into this elite association of national philanthropic leaders.

Why Bill gates was at their Million dollar round table! Personally he has given more than one million dollars.

[N3WBI3]

See post 87

[antiRepublicrat]

I notice youre not crfying to find out how much IBM gave...

Me Me...

IBM donates regularly to educational institutions, for example $1 million to North Carolina universities overall in 2003. One of the institutions was UNC Chapel Hill for its project that puts its School of Information and Library Science online (iBiblio, known as SunSite in the early days of the Web), plus be a public forum for ideas. About the only agenda of this project is free sharing of ideas and information. If you haven't seen Project Gutenberg on iBiblio, you're missing out.

To this effort IBM donated $250,000 in hardware in 2000, three years before Groklaw even existed. It's an open matter because IBM has nothing to hide.

[antiRepublicrat]

IBM donated hardware to iBiblio; therefore, whether you or Pamela Jones or whoever like to admit it or not, IBM is Groklaw's benefactor.

IBM was iBiblio's benefactor three years before Jones even got the idea to to Groklaw. Do you think all texts in Project Gutenberg have a pro-IBM slant because it's hosted there? Do you think those pages on iBiblio criticizing IBM for its environmental problems at disk manufacturing plants are pro-IBM?

Face it. For you Microsoft can do no wrong even if they give cash to people who turn around and write favorable reports, while someone with a site on a publically hosted forum is criticized because IBM donated some hardware four years ago.

[antiRepublicrat]

You'll crawl back in your hole or ignore the issue, as if there weren't a difference between a $10 donation and a $100K donation.

You have got to be kidding. You and I may make $10 donations. Microsoft makes donations in the hundreds of thousands to the hundreds of millions.

[adam_az]

"What color is the sky in your world bush??"

He's not sure, but he can tell you both what the pillow tastes like, and what color the ceiling is.

[N3WBI3]

See post 87

[N3WBI3]

Who said anything obout the DNC, what about moveon.og, answer, ...

[Petronski]

[adam_az]

"Fine. How much did MS contribute? I think that the people on this thread deserve to know if this guy received any money for writing this -- and, if so, how much. Tell me. But I predict that you won't. You'll crawl back in your hole or ignore the issue, as if there weren't a difference between a $10 donation and a $100K donation."

In the interest of avoiding the appearance of conflict of interesgt, isn't the burden actually on Microsoft?

To turn the question around, why is Microsoft hiding the amount of their involvement in what has all appearances of being a MS proxy??

[antiRepublicrat]

N3WBI3 shows us Bill is in the million-dollar club. Know the difference between a $100K and a $1M donation?

[antiRepublicrat]

Until you trolls can prove that a significant -- and I do mean significant

$1 million enough?

[Bush2000]

Last time I checked, Bill Gates is an individual. Not a corporation. Try again. How much did MS contribute?

[N3WBI3]

Bill gates is an officer in Microsoft, he donates more one million dollars to a company that produces reports which are critical of the competition on the 386 server market..

This is in some way less importanrt than IBM giving some excess servers and a fraction of the money to an organization who gave webspace to an organization that (even after the donation) critized them.

lol wow the sky must be a different color in your wolrd..