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It Official Linus stole Linux (Microsoft FUD)
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040514/234/71e7q.html ^ | 05/17/2004 | Yahoo

Posted on 05/17/2004 6:51:16 AM PDT by N3WBI3

Torvalds claim to "invent" Linux probably false, says new study

Fri May 14, 5:49 PM ET

Washington, DC (FeatureXpress) May 14, 2004 - Popular but controversial "open source" computer software, often contributed on a volunteer basis, is often taken or adapted without permission from material owned by other companies and individuals, a study by the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution finds. Among other points, the study directly challenges Linus Torvalds (news - web sites)' claim to be the inventor of Linux (news - web sites). In one of the few extensive studies on the source of open source code, Kenneth Brown, president of AdTI, traces the free software movement over three decades -- from its romantic but questionable beginnings, through its evolution to a commercial effort that draws on unpaid contributions from thousands of programmers. Brown's account is based on extensive interviews with more than two dozen leading technologists including Richard Stallman, Dennis Ritchie, and Andrew Tanenbaum.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; Technical
KEYWORDS: linux
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To: Paladin2; Havoc
I am a poor spellers, I was refering to the MIT OS

Hey havoc what's the damn answer?

121 posted on 05/17/2004 4:30:05 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: jpsb; Havoc
I give up too!

And the answer is ..........?

122 posted on 05/17/2004 4:35:23 PM PDT by Paladin2 (DOS is faster than Unix)
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To: jpsb

"1.4.12. Michigan Terminal System
MIT Comp Center and University of Michigan had close ties in the early 60s, and there was an informal group studying virtual memory in 1964 that included MIT and U of M researchers. The paper "Program and Addressing Structure in a Time-Sharing Environment," by Arden, Galler, and Westervelt (CACM, January 1966), was based on these discussions and especially on work by MIT professors Jack Dennis and Earl Van Horn. MIT and U of M participated in discussions with IBM about a virtual memory machine


123 posted on 05/17/2004 5:04:59 PM PDT by Paladin2 (MTS - Mi Terminal System)
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To: N3WBI3

Your words: but the kernel he started with -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum's Minix -- was unambiguously described by its author as "an open source Unix clone."

I thought that basic copyright law included the principle that one

can NOT

copyright ideas,

only their particular, specific expression in certain words and word patterns or, in this case,

in certain code and code patterns????


124 posted on 05/17/2004 5:29:09 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: N3WBI3; Golden Eagle; Bush2000
From a GROKLAW post:

"Alien puppet Linus swiped Linux from SCO, says balanced study:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/17/adti_linux_fud"

125 posted on 05/17/2004 5:51:54 PM PDT by Paladin2 (MTS - Mi Terminal System)
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To: Bush2000

Oh, I can stay on topic - just trying to lighten up the atmosphere a bit. It was MS Bob, btw.


126 posted on 05/17/2004 6:23:40 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Paladin2

Bob. Talk to bob.


127 posted on 05/17/2004 6:25:02 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Phsstpok
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1137017/posts?page=87#87
Now that's real FUD. That is a UNITED WAY fund that just happens to be named after the same champion of democracy.

You have such a blind spot on this subject you don't even recognize your own FUD. Retitling articles is at best misleading and at worst deceptive.

As for my MS relationship, I have been open and honest about that on this forum. I have been here for close to 8 years often stated that I was at one time a "near sider" not an insider.

I am a Software QA Professional and have worked with AIX, Solaris, HP/UX, MAC OS, Linux, MS Windows and NT, I could care less what I'm testing but I will admit I have made more money for myself testing MS Products.
128 posted on 05/17/2004 6:36:23 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: Bush2000

And Linus's father is not Linus you still point out he was a commnist..


129 posted on 05/17/2004 6:40:23 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Golden Eagle

Umm who here has said Linux would have existed, or even is not based on Unix... Try to keep up man!


130 posted on 05/17/2004 6:41:45 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Havoc
I was thinking of Bob, but it seemed to be a ripoff of the KID's Desk interface that I had on the computer when my kids were little.
131 posted on 05/17/2004 6:47:31 PM PDT by Paladin2 (MTS - Mi Terminal System)
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To: N3WBI3
Wrong guys, that's the United WayNational Alexis de Tocqueville Society.

From the Link:
The Alexis de Tocqueville Society, initiated in March, 1984, is designed to deepen the understanding, commitment and support of individuals to United Ways and to recognize the deep commitment to service. Membership in the Society is granted to individuals who contribute at least $10,000 annually to the United Way which includes most major United Ways. Thank you to all of these individuals who have made such a difference in their local community!

Once again more FUD on this thread that many are blind to. Look I'm disputing the fact that MS has contributed to the group, I just am disputing the Iron Clad Proof that they are an MS bought and paid for shill. Look up some news on them and look at what they do, they are heavily into IP protection since before it became an issue with the software industry I'm sure that they may have some common perspectives. I am not saying that they couldn't be biased, but you shouldn't believe everything you read on Wired or Slashdot any more than FR.

132 posted on 05/17/2004 6:51:25 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: antiRepublicrat

See #132 and please admit what you should...


133 posted on 05/17/2004 6:53:45 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: TechJunkYard

See Post #132


134 posted on 05/17/2004 6:54:31 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: Bush2000
See #132, you're making the wrong assumption as well...
135 posted on 05/17/2004 6:56:24 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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Sorry I just realized I muffed the link by adding HTML code to my post. Her is the link to the info in #132:
http://national.unitedway.org/tocqueville/
136 posted on 05/17/2004 6:57:43 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: jpsb

I was programming in BASIC in 1977, was MS around then?


137 posted on 05/17/2004 7:00:24 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: Paladin2

Rofl. I'll have to tell that to the guys at work.

Stipulating that I don't know that they weren't ripping off KID's Desk LOL, I'll give them BOB. And what can one say about Bob... It's like beyond words, an enigma. We still have no clue what the point of it really was... LOL.

Would be fun to post a chart showing where all the MS apps were ripped from. And line it up next to a list of companies MS destroyed so they could canibalize their product and put an MS label on it and the like... Lord knows if IBM ever excercised it's copywrite authority over NTFS (HPFS), and other proprietary code MS has used for years without license, IBM could own Microsoft. And MS doesn't have the integrity to settle up on it's own; but, they'll sure beat up anyone who looks to be infringing their rights.. Ah the smell of hypocrisy in the air, huh rofl.


138 posted on 05/17/2004 7:01:54 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Havoc
I remember all the hype and then I tried Bob in a store and was "like wtf is this about?"

Kinda reminds me of a quote from a (relatively young) kid of another family who had never eaten Wonder Bread. He had seen the ads on TV and convinced his parents to buy some. Upon trying it, his comment apparently was "THIS is Wonder Bread?"

139 posted on 05/17/2004 7:10:32 PM PDT by Paladin2 (MTS - Mi Terminal System)
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To: jpsb
The least yall Linux fans could do is give credit to AT&T for developeing the best damn OS ever.

best damn OS = VMS

:-)

140 posted on 05/17/2004 7:10:46 PM PDT by jgorris
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