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To: BraveMan
"You lost me, Landru..."

Not an altogether unfamiliar territory for you, Braveman.
I'm not the The United States Coast Guard, though.
As such I'm perfecly content to watch you flounder about. {g}

"The admission by the state (Re: no information) doesn't strike me as egregious."

Alone [that'd] be meaningless; but, this guy's story is the sum of its parts.
Look around here & see what I mean.

"I find no reason to believe Nicolas Berg's beheading was a ruse."

Good, than just keep believing.
But now I won't be satisfied until the man's coffin is exhumed and the remains examined.

"Al-babalooie's penchant for snuff videos is well known. Besides, the clumsiness and ineptitude shown during the display would have been difficult to conceive, were it merely an act."

First off, I'm [apparently] not as familiar with Al-babalooie's penchant for snuff films as you claim to be.
So what a "good" one would look like v.s. a "bad" one is an unknown for me.
I would say if cutting off some jamoke's head were my goal I'd make certain the knife were a sharp one.
Unless I wanted to sicken each & every person -- who I intended would be viewing the film -- as I hacked about.
~eh?

"Finally, I am disheartened, though not surprised by the rhetoric coming from the father. He is, after all, a card-carrying member of organizations we find detestable (for good reason, I might add)."

>doink!<

"What do you do when you're a member of the Right Wing Hater's Society? You use whatever tools and information you have at your disposal to paint a target on your "enemy"."

Unless you knew something everyone else doesn't, eh?
Seems odd to me -- under the circumstances -- a Jew would hail the Islamic murderers of his son by attacking the one person who's trying to do something about the maniacs.
One cannot escape the fact a consrvative is merely a Liberal-Socialist whose been mugged, can you.
This guy, "Dad," breaks all the rules; but, especially his reaction to the grisly murder of his boy.
Smells to high Heaven.

"Think what you will about the puerile nature of the father's actions; right now this very moment he wields an enormous club with which to bash his perceived enemies. The confusion and tortured logic he displays is predictable given his position and circumstance."

The only "confused and tortured logic" I'm having to grapple with is yours right now, Braveman.
You demonstrate a weak (if not wayyyy too trusting) understanding of Liberal-Socialists & their profound hatred of *anything* right.
Not comprehending the extreme & outlandish lengths -- including lying & murder if need be -- the left would go to smear the right *if* it meant they'd win (fill in the blank).
Fabricating a fictitious murder of an "innocent" who, as it were would never have met their demise had it not been for the monstrous rightwing & their damnedable leader!! would seem child's play for that ilk.

>?< ;^)

"I respectfully submit your are giving too much credence to the cognitive abilities of this leftist..."

While I respectfully submit you're not giving enough credence to an insideous, demonic Liberal-Socialist left who have no morals -- whatsoever -- & know no depth they wouldn't go to satisfy their agenda.
None I could [ever] find, anyway.
The Liberal-Socialists today are not your father's Democrats, bucko.

Be that as it may, let us -- you & I -- discuss this as we pursue the Coho on The Braveman one day this summer.

Then if you piss me off enough?

...I can pitch yerass overboard. :o)

166 posted on 05/14/2004 8:23:17 AM PDT by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: Landru

Very well stated in #166 -- kudo's for a great reply!


172 posted on 05/14/2004 8:28:43 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: Landru; PhiKapMom
Admit it my friend; you find it great sport to take the softballs I lob to you and smack them into bloopers out to deep left field. Allow me to address a couple of points here, then we can part amicably on this thread . . .

Point One, which I suppose I must make at this juncture, is that I cannot brusquely dismiss this conspiracy theory out of hand. As you and others have said, something doesn't smell right and the offensive odor is hardly unidentifiable. The father's reaction to the grisly murder of his boy is indeed difficult to fathom. I find it exceedingly difficult to chalk this up to differing world views, hence my own confused and tortured logic as I wrestle with the comments I've read from the father. Do I contradict my previous thoughts here?

Point Two (which quite frankly I should not have to reassert to you) is that am I not glossing over the extreme & outlandish lengths some Liberal-Socialists will travel to force their worldview & companion agenda upon us. Perhaps I should have italicized the words, this leftist, in my previous post for the sake of clarity. This leftist, the father doesn't strike me as the person who could plumb the extreme & outlandish lengths, rather an embittered socialist mourning the loss of his own son, embued with a taint of personal regret over how some of his own decisions have factored into the equation. I could very well be wrong about this; we shall see. (BTW, I don't haunt this forum to display my own faultless reasoning; I am here to learn what I can from others.)

Bottom line, I believe Occam's Razor applies here. The principle that entities should not be multiplied needlessly; the simplest of two competing theories is to be preferred. This is what steers me away from the conspirancy angle. You're not very convincing when you state you're perfectly content to watch me flounder about (contrary to very real reaction of the United States Coast Guard - LOL!). Have your arms tired from crushing softballs already?

349 posted on 05/14/2004 1:29:45 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: TaxRelief; Huber

Dying to have your take(S) on this.


415 posted on 05/14/2004 4:42:19 PM PDT by Helms (Jesse Jackson has been unsuccessfully successful)
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