[oolatec]

Oh what the hell... THEY TOLD HIM TO GO HOME BUT HE DIDN'T WANT TO.

[Torie]

Berg's parents are so egocentric as to be an embarrassment. They seem to think it is all about them. They seem to think that the only misjudgments were made by those other than their son. Pathetic.

[Prime Choice]

Oh for cryin' out loud! The courts have determined that the government has no responsibility to protect its own citizens on its own soil...but this sorry thing is Bush's fault?!

Clue-by-Four time! It's the Muslim Terrorists who did the killing. If anyone needs to blame someone, then blame them.

[CyberCowboy777]

Nothing on the Fathers affiliations.

He is making very serious charges and no effort for discloser is made.

[jocon307]

Curiouser and curiouser.

[lonevoice]

The family of Nicholas Berg deserves a free pass for whatever they may say during this time of the most profound and immense grief anyone can possibly imagine.

The media and those on the left who would seek to politicize how the Berg family reacts in the depths of their fury and trauma deserve no such free pass.

[TheEaglehasLanded]

NICK BERG's dad signed INTERNATIONAL A.N.S.W.E.R petition about Israel Palestinian conflict and he's jewish, what a moron. Is he going to put up a nazi flag next.

[nutmeg]

ping

[Shethink13]

He described the conditions for other prisoners and their treatment, depending sometimes on nationality. The others, he wrote, were behind closed cell doors and had no time outdoors. Some prisoners, considered political or suspected war criminals from India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran "had been in custody for 40 days without a single interpreter interrogation, just waiting as they still do today, and the Iraqi guards treat these poor fellows — especially the Hindis among them — as real dogs.'

Pity he discovered the hard way that they ARE real dogs. Or some kind of animals...

[nutmeg]

The F.B.I. statement, though, said that coalition authorities had offered "to facilitate his safe passage out of Iraq," but that Mr. Berg refused their help.

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[Jim_Curtis]

Nick Berg owns a company that his father took upon himself to mention in anti-American ANSWER propaganda.

It seems odd that a father would feel free to associate his son's company with such an organization. His son being a "pro-Bush, pro-war" person by the father's assertion.

One could only assume logically that Nick Berg was a Susan Lindauer type who had information regarding US military information gained in his Iraq travels and set out to find these people who ended his life.

If the logical explanation is the correct one than coalition forces best determine what has been compromised.

If the logical explanation stands, surely Nick Berg thought he would be celebrated as a hero once he found the people he was looking for.

...but it's possible that Nick Berg was a good guy with a father who had such total disregard for his son's reputation that he would associate his son's company with ANSWER.

[RonDog]

In the message dated April 6, addressed to his parents, brother and sister, Mr. Berg described the 13 days that he spent in the Shirdta Iraqiyah station near Mosul, an Iraqi detention center where, he said, the United States Military Police supervised and trained the Iraqi officers.

"The M.P.'s were a little surprised to see an American in civilian clothing, and I think out of formality and boredom they decided to do a background check, which involved C.I.D.," he wrote, referring to the Army Criminal Investigation Division.

The next morning, Mr. Berg described F.B.I. agents' questioning as amicable, but pointed. Among the questions asked, he wrote, were: "Why was I in Iraq? Did I ever make a pipe bomb? Why was I in Iran?"

He conjectured that their questions arose from some Farsi literature and a book about Iran that he had. Mr. Berg wrote that after four days he was transferred to a cellblock that included prisoners charged with petty offenses and suspected "war criminals."

"Word had spread due to the presence of certain items amongst my stuff that I was Israeli," Mr. Berg wrote. "So I felt a bit like Arlo Guthrie walking into a jail full of mother rapers and father stabbers as an accused litterbug..."

See also:

SLAIN HOSTAGE IGNORED ALERT
[Nick Berg turned down a State Department offer to fly him home]
www.nypost.com ^ | May 13, 2004 | DAN MANGAN and ANDY GELLER
Posted on 05/13/2004 12:15:02 AM PDT by RonDog

SLAIN HOSTAGE IGNORED ALERT
By DAN MANGAN and ANDY GELLER

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May 13, 2004 -- The FBI warned the young American beheaded by terrorists to leave Iraq because new violence was sweeping the country, U.S. officials revealed yesterday.

But Nick Berg, 26, turned down a State Department offer to fly him home, the officials said.

Department spokesman Kelly Shannon said that on April 10 - the day he vanished - Berg told a U.S. diplomat in Baghdad he preferred to travel on his own to Kuwait.

"At that time, the U.S. consular officer extended an offer to assist Mr. Berg to depart Iraq by plane to Jordan," she said.

"We'd already discussed that possibility with his family, and we mentioned that to him, obviously, when we talked to him on the 10th," she said.

Berg's father, Michael, said his son refused the offer because he believed travel to the Baghdad airport was too dangerous.

U.S. soldiers refer to the airport highway as "RPG Alley" because of frequent attacks by guerrillas firing rocket-propelled grenades.

Nick Berg, who lived in the Philadelphia suburb of West Chester, spoke to his parents on March 24 and told them he would return home on March 30.

But he was detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in the northern city of Mosul on March 24 and held until April 6.

Two friends who saw Berg after he was released said he told them he had been arrested after Iraqi police noticed an Israeli stamp on his U.S. passport.

"He said, 'You want to hear an interesting story? They thought I was a spy because I had a Jewish last name and had an Israeli stamp in my passport,' " said Hugo Infante, 31...

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[kittymyrib]

Nick Berg's parents failed to keep him from going into a war zone. He was a man, not a 13 yr. old kid. What was the US military supposed to do, kidnap him and force him out of the country? Then Papa Berg would have been whining to the press about that. Liberals and their nanny state ideas are on parade here. They'll be the toast of the next A.N.S.W.R. outing.

[Freedom2specul8]

Just posting as a reminder on a few threads.

"...Al Qaeda is to terror what the mafia is to crime. But its goal is not making money; its goal is remaking the world -- and imposing its radical beliefs on people everywhere.

...Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them.Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated. ..

They hate our freedoms -- our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other. ...They want to overthrow existing governments in many Muslim countries, such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan. They want to drive Israel out of the Middle East. They want to drive Christians and Jews out of vast regions of Asia and Africa. These terrorists kill not merely to end lives, but to disrupt and end a way of life. With every atrocity, they hope that America grows fearful, retreating from the world and forsaking our friends. They stand against us, because we stand in their way.

...Great harm has been done to us. We have suffered great loss. And in our grief and anger we have found our mission and our moment. Freedom and fear are at war. The advance of human freedom -- the great achievement of our time, and the great hope of every time -- now depends on us. "
-----President Bush 9-20-01

[SuziQ]

"They can detain him and deny him his basic civil rights of a lawyer, a phone call or even a charge for 13 days, but they can't get him" on a plane, David Berg said.

What did they want the US officials to do, put the guy in handcuffs and drive him to the airport? If they HAD taken him to the airport and put him on the plane home, would the family have yelled and screamed that he had been 'kidnapped' and his civil rights to roam a war zone freely had been denied?

I know the family is hurting, but I'm getting tired of them blaming everyone else for Nick's own actions which led to his death.

[mtbopfuyn]

Recalling his brother's independent personality, David Berg said such a refusal would not surprise his family

Can you imagine the outrage if the US military handcuffed him and threw him on a plane home?!?

The brother's statement proves what I posted elsewhere - I see a guy who ignored all alerts and advice anyone gave him. Dad is against Bush so Nick sets up electronics for the RNC in 2000. Dad is against war so sonny boy decides to go on an adventure into a war zone. Before he left, the State Dept. or some official told him it was dangerous and not to go but he takes off anyway and to prove to everyone he goes ALONE. He takes a Jewish "fringed religious cloth" with him to a country that hates Jews and Dad wonders that he may or may not have been wearing it out in public. He doesn't abide with the safe zone areas but hangs out at night with the locals which concerned his friends back at the hotel in Baghdad. His emails show he had a grand time jaunting out to the Syrian border and taking in the sights around a country in turmoil. The Iraqi police requests he go home and tells friends what a lark his detainment was. The FBI requests he go home. The US military requests he go home and offers to buy him a plane ticket. He refuses all. Either this whole incident is a sham or Nick had a serious problem with authority and was sorely lacking in basic common sense. Not to excuse what the monsters did to him, but he was playing a dangerous game and lost.