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No war but total war.
1 posted on 05/11/2004 6:41:51 PM PDT by B-Chan
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To: B-Chan
Yes, but are Americans up to it after 40+ years of leftist mind-poisoning?

2 posted on 05/11/2004 6:45:52 PM PDT by AK2KX
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To: B-Chan
When did this savage murder take place? He was captured around April 9. Was the audio added after the embarrassing videos? I say embarrassing not torture.
3 posted on 05/11/2004 6:54:08 PM PDT by katz (Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.............I'm tired of being sorry.)
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To: B-Chan
Loved your post except for one thing; the use of the word "torture."

What our troops did to those Muslimes was NOT "torture." "Torture" was what went on in that prison when it was run by Saddam Hussein. There is a vast difference between photoing naked Muslimes and lowering them into a vat of acid.

Inhofe spoke for me today. He is right on the money and should be considered as a presidential contender in the future....

5 posted on 05/11/2004 6:55:40 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: B-Chan
I agree...it's time to end the war with all we've got. The politically correct have made everything worse. Also...don't forget the criminals that were 'mistreated' may get reparations and go home with pockets full of money. They'll use it of course to fund more terrorism.
6 posted on 05/11/2004 6:57:10 PM PDT by Faithfull
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To: B-Chan
Pinging President Bush.
9 posted on 05/11/2004 7:19:17 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: B-Chan
Let us just set one thing straight here. The premise is flawed.

In no way are the words "torture" and "abuse" interchangeable.
11 posted on 05/11/2004 7:22:40 PM PDT by Freemeorkillme
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To: B-Chan
Phil Hendrie is ready to buy a flamethrower, go to Iraq, find Alqaida, and put the weapon on broil. He hopes the younger generation is ready to fight this war and save the country because the boomers don't have a clue.
14 posted on 05/11/2004 7:25:35 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: B-Chan
"No war but total war."

Careful there, "Total War" (Totaler Krieg) was Joseph Goebbels' rallying cry.

Total war is the demand of the hour. We must put an end to the bourgeois attitude which we have also seen in this war: Wash my back, but don't get me wet! The danger facing us is enormous. The efforts we take to meet it must be just as enormous. The time has come to remove the gloves and use our fists. We can no longer make only partial use of the war potential at home and throughout Europe. We must use our full resources, as quickly and thoroughly as it is organizationally and practically possible. Unnecessary concern is wholly out of place. The future of Europe hangs on our success in the East. We are ready to defend it. The German people are shedding their most valuable blood in this battle. The rest of Europe should at least work to support us. There are voices in Europe that have already realized this. Others still resist. That cannot influence us. If danger faced them alone, we could view their reluctance as literary nonsense. But the danger is to us all, and we must all do our share. Those who today do not understand that will thank us tomorrow on bended knees that we courageously and firmly took on the task.

The people are willing to bear any burden, even the heaviest, to make any sacrifice, if it leads to victory.

This naturally assumes that the burdens are shared equally. We cannot tolerate a situation in which most people carry the burden of the war, while a small portion attempts to escape its burdens and responsibilities. The measures we have taken and will take will be characterized by the spirit of National Socialist justice. We pay no heed to class or standing. Rich and poor, high and low must share the burdens equally. Everyone must do his duty in this grave hour, whether by choice or otherwise. We know this has the full support of the people. We would rather do too much rather than too little to achieve victory. No war has ever been lost because of too many soldiers or weapons. Many, however, have been lost because the opposite was true.

It is time to get the slackers moving. They must be shaken out of their comfortable ease. We cannot wait until they come to their senses. That might be too late. The alarm must sound throughout the nation. Millions of hands must get to work throughout the country. The measures we have taken, and the ones we will now take, and which I shall discuss later in this speech, are critical for our whole public and private life. The individual may have to make great sacrifices, but they are tiny when compared to the sacrifices he would have to bring if his refusal brought down on us great national disaster. It is better to operate at the right time than to wait until the disease has taken root. One may not complain to the doctor or sue him for bodily injury. He cuts not to kill, but to save the life of the patient.
February 18th, 1943, Joseph Goebbels

"Unconditional Surrender" was the rallying cry used by in the West to mean the same thing.

15 posted on 05/11/2004 7:26:52 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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It will probably do no good to be..."blasting Iraqi cities into rubble"...Blasting the Kaaba Rock in Mecca is a lot simpler, will kill no people, and will send a powerful message.
16 posted on 05/11/2004 7:28:46 PM PDT by jolie560
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To: B-Chan
No war but total war.

I agree with that statement.

However I disagree that prisoners were "tortured." They were hazed. I received worse hazing during my fraternity initiation, my initiation into a ROTC honor society and during basic training in the late 60's.

20 posted on 05/11/2004 7:36:32 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Flat-bellied, steely-eyed killer since 1969.)
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"Our prison staffers psychologically tortured a small number of enemy military prisoners."

You may wish to strengthen that argument by identifying the prisoners correctly as "illegal combatants without rights according to the Geneva Convention." If my understanding is correct, failure to wear a uniform alone qualifies you for on-the-spot hanging.

24 posted on 05/11/2004 7:59:10 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islam: Nothing BEER couldn't cure.)
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I agree wholeheartedly, but our leaders no longer have the will or spine to fight real war. They've become utterly seduced by the Surgical Strike Doctrine. Not only are we determined to hurt no innocents, we only hurt the worst of the bad guys, with our leaders somehow convinced that the rest of the bad guys are gonna see how nice we are and decide to like us. Sheer idiocy, but that's where we are.

Know why insurgents keep flaring up in Iraq? Because the Iraqi population has no fear of us. No matter what we do, we're not gonna hurt them and they know it. Makes it so much easier for them to stick the knife in our back.

This nonsense will sadly continue, and I'm afraid that the result will eventually be a WMD detonated on American soil. Rest assured our enemies are trying hard to get one and get it in place. And since our leaders refuse to wipe out our enemies, I fear they'll succeed in the end.

MM
32 posted on 05/11/2004 9:43:43 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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