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Soldier's Family Set in Motion Chain of Events on Disclosure [Hackworth involved in CBS photos]
NY Times ^ | 5/8/04 | James Dao and Eric Lichtblau

Posted on 05/07/2004 11:02:41 PM PDT by saquin

CUMBERLAND, Md., May 7 — Ivan Frederick was distraught. His son, an Army reservist turned prison guard in Iraq, was under investigation earlier this year for mistreating prisoners, and photographs of the abuse were beginning to circulate among soldiers and military investigators.

So the father went to his brother-in-law, William Lawson, who was afraid that reservists like his nephew would end up taking the fall for what he considered command lapses, Mr. Lawson recounted in an interview on Friday. He knew whom to turn to: David Hackworth, a retired colonel and a muckraker who was always willing to take on the military establishment. Mr. Lawson sent an e-mail message in March to Mr. Hackworth's Web site and got a call back from an associate there in minutes, he said.

That e-mail message would put Mr. Lawson in touch with the CBS News program "60 Minutes II" and help set in motion events that led to the public disclosure of the graphic photographs and an international crisis for the Bush administration.

It is still not entirely clear who leaked the photos and how they got into the hands of a "60 Minutes II" producer. What is clear, however, is that the furor over the photos is unlikely to dissipate any time soon.

And it may only get worse.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld disclosed Friday that there were "many more photos" and videos of abuse that have not yet become public. And he acknowledged in Senate testimony that the military might have mishandled the affair by not alerting members of Congress and the public to the growing seriousness of the military's investigation into the abuses before the images became public on "60 Minutes II."

"I wish I had been able to convey to them the gravity of this before we saw it in the media," Mr. Rumsfeld said.

The irony, Mr. Lawson said, is that the public spectacle might have been avoided if the military and the federal government had been responsive to his claims that his nephew was simply following orders. Mr. Lawson said he sent letters to 17 members of Congress about the case earlier this year, with virtually no response, and that he ultimately contacted Mr. Hackworth's Web site out of frustration, leading him to cooperate with a consultant for "60 Minutes II."

"The Army had the opportunity for this not to come out, not to be on 60 Minutes," he said. "But the Army decided to prosecute those six G.I.'s because they thought me and my family were a bunch of poor, dirt people who could not do anything about it. But unfortunately, that was not the case."

Many of the incriminating photographs appear to have been taken on a digital camera by a soldier in the 372nd Military Police Company who is now facing a court-martial. From there, they appear to have circulated among military personnel in Iraq via e-mail and computer disks, and some may have found their way to family members in the United States.

But there are still numerous unresolved questions about the photographs. One is why they were taken. Some officials suggest that soldiers wanted the photographs as souvenirs, but some relatives said they believed that the photographs were going to be shown to other prisoners to pressure their cooperation.

Then there is the question of how the photographs became public.

Lt. Gen. Lance Smith, deputy commander of forces in the region, testifying Friday before Congress, said he was still unclear how that happened. "It was a surprise that it got out," General Smith said.

Military officials were aware of two disks with photographs on them that were part of continuing investigations, one in Iraq and another in Washington, he said.

"That was the limit of the pictures, and we thought we had them all," General Smith said.

Producers at "60 Minutes II" are not saying exactly how they got the photographs. But Jeff Fager, the executive producer, said, "We heard about someone who was outraged about it and thought that the public should know about it."

Digital cameras have become so ubiquitous in the military that many relatives of personnel in the 372nd and other units in Iraq said they routinely received photographs by e-mail. But the photographs were usually tourist-type photographs of smiling sons and daughters, relatives said.

Officials said that the photographs showing psychological or physical abuse numbered in the hundreds, perhaps more than 1,000, with Mr. Rumsfeld hinting Friday that more may come out.

Among some prison personnel in Iraq, the photographs were apparently an open secret. "Some soldiers in Iraq had them — I'm hearing that soldiers were showing them to everybody," Mr. Lawson said. He said he did not have the original photos and did not turn them over to anyone.

The photographs have now turned soldiers like Mr. Lawson's nephew, Staff Sgt. Ivan Frederick, and Pfc. Lynndie R. England into graphic symbols of military abuse. But for Mr. Lawson, they are evidence of a complete breakdown in training and authority in the Iraqi prison system.

He shared his frustration in his March 23 e-mail message to Mr. Hackworth's Web site, writing: "We have contacted the Red Cross, Congress both parties, Bill O'Reilly and many others. Nobody wants to touch this."

Less than five weeks later, images of his nephew — interviewed on "60 Minutes II" with Mr. Lawson's help — would be shown around the world. Far from untouchable, the story would become unavoidable.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004electionbias; 60minutes; abugerbil; agitprop; bushhaters; cbs; ccrm; crazyivan; dontaskdonttell; hacknut; hackworth; iraq; iraqaftermath; iraqipow; iraqipowphotos; ivanfrederick; jailhouselawyers; loathesthemilitary; media; mediabias; moralrelativism; prisonabuse; propaganda; saddamites; therestofthestory
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To: COEXERJ145
He damn well better NOT defend him!
121 posted on 05/07/2004 11:57:10 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: nopardons
And "dating" one of the guys assigned to the prison. Total breaking of rules. They both should be drummed out.

But to call for Rumsfeld's resignation is just more proof the Dems are stupid. Their grandstanding backfires everytime. Especially among "moderates". And of course we had to have the usual RINO's like Susan Collins and John McCain also playing the part of Dems for a day as long as the cameras are on.

McCain has outlived his usefulness and Collins, Snowe, Chaffee, Specter, etc. are no better than Cardassians and should be whacked by the Klingons. ;-)
122 posted on 05/07/2004 11:57:54 PM PDT by Fledermaus
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To: Texasforever
Texas, "they" never do ANYTHING to these people.
123 posted on 05/07/2004 11:58:00 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: McGavin999
HACKworth knew exactly what it would do.

The HACK has been bitter because he found out he would never wear a star. He blamed that on the incompetent officer corps over him; it never occurred to him that his own abilities, or lack thereof, were probably the most important contributing factor.

Given his predictions on all things military since he became a media whore, his lack of promotion is understandable.

124 posted on 05/07/2004 11:58:04 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: MJY1288
Surely you're kidding.

The cables will LOVE him!
125 posted on 05/07/2004 11:58:27 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Fledermaus
You're serious, aren't you? That's funny. Sad, but funny.
126 posted on 05/07/2004 11:58:39 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Fledermaus
If we here at FR can reveal the what we have, just imagine how easy it will be for those in the know to get to the bottom of this. Watch and see if John Ashcroft isn't the one who puts the Clinton's and their cronies in the orange Jumpsuits they have long deserved. I have a gut feeling about this ever since Aschroft delayed Timothy McViegh's execution for 30 days as he scoured over documents Louis Freeh turned over to him just before he resigned as the FBI Director
127 posted on 05/07/2004 11:58:51 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Injured Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)
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To: Texasforever
Does the strategy entail a nonstop barrage of Bush-bashing books and manufactured scandals throughout 2003-2004?

128 posted on 05/07/2004 11:59:11 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Fledermaus
With no women to distract them, that's moot. Why do you think the ONLY military organization that doesn't allow fraternization of men and women IN ANY FORM is the Marines? Because they are the real fighters and fraternization doesn't work. Not with young people full of hormones that have been indoctrinated by the NEA and MTV to think with their genitals and not their brains.

Oh, good grief! These photos were S & M, dominant homo-erotic, and from what I hear "may" come out...pedophile in nature. These people are bizarre sexual deviants. This has nothing to do with normal exploration or raging hormones...they are a bunch of serious freaks.

That said, WHY didn't we all figure out that Hackworth had something to do the the release of these photos to the media? The military was handling the problem...but OBVIOUSLY not well enough for the brilliant "I should be Sec. Defense" Hackworth. He is, and lately has been, a loose cannon, and should be thrown to the wolves like the rest of them for the damage he has caused.

He claims to be on the side of the soldier...well this crap will probably get more than a few of them killed.

129 posted on 05/07/2004 11:59:32 PM PDT by garandgal
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To: CWOJackson
The real military will turn on him.
130 posted on 05/07/2004 11:59:43 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: A CA Guy
If there was rape then I agree. The rest is bad, but it doesn't even come close to rape.
131 posted on 05/07/2004 11:59:52 PM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1
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To: Texasforever; CWOJackson
I have read the article four times and
I am still unclear about the ownership
of the photos and discs etc.

Are they supposed to be property of the military,
since they were apparently confiscated?
Shouldn't they be used as evidence again those involved?
132 posted on 05/08/2004 12:00:14 AM PDT by onyx (WHO LEAKED TO CBS?)
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To: churchillbuff
"All this anger over the pictures getting out suggests you're fine with the behavior recorded on those pictures - you just don't want news of the behavior to get out."

No, it doesn't. It suggests that we want a thorough investigation. Not a circus where congresscritters can beat their breasts and grandstand. It suggests that we want to koow who was involved in leaking these photos. I think I already know. You see, Hillary is more used to being on the staff side of investigations......like when she was a staffer on the Watergate investigation. Today, she slipped up. She confused her roles, and let slip something that she knew that she shouldn't have.

And Rummy caught her!

133 posted on 05/08/2004 12:00:48 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Texasforever; CWOJackson
would turn this into a media circus.

I was just sitting here wondering what CWO thought was missing! :-)

134 posted on 05/08/2004 12:00:50 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: saquin
Anyone taking those pictures could not believe they would not get into the public's hands.
135 posted on 05/08/2004 12:00:55 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: Fledermaus
Also, EVERY WOMAN EVER TAKEN PRISONER IN MILITARY SERVICE WAS RAPED BY THOSE HOLDING THEM!

Another unpleasant factoid!
136 posted on 05/08/2004 12:01:09 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: MJY1288
You're fantazing. The Clintons and Democrat Party aren't amateurs, they are ruthless, have no moral limits, do whatever it takes to gain power, and have the media and all sorts of subversives and cronies(both in and out of the country) more than willing to help them for a price. Don't underestimate the left.
137 posted on 05/08/2004 12:02:14 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Fledermaus
I am in complete agreement with your entire post!

See? You're not a lone voice crying in the wilderness at all.Actually,I think that most of FR agrees with you.

Jessica Lynch was NOT a heroine!

Lynndie England IS a villaness though.

Neither women belonged anywhere near Iraq and neither do the other women who are there now,belong there either.

138 posted on 05/08/2004 12:02:28 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Barlowmaker
Yes, I do! What part of that do you not understand?

Besides, there weren't any nuclear weapons in the 4th century so you already are a few points down on reality.

Who would miss them? I'd love to see that answer.

Actually, 4th century might not be the correct time frame since they once had viable and impressive societies. But I think that was in the 12th through late 19th century. As usual, we are having to clean up the empirical adventures of England, France, Spain, Italy, Germany and Japan after all these decades.

So why waste lives of our military? Again, exactly what is the drawback to just removing the Islamic fascist from the planet?
139 posted on 05/08/2004 12:03:08 AM PDT by Fledermaus
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To: Barlowmaker
There was one memo that recommended gathering all negative war issues and releasing them at a scheduled interval. I will try to find that and pot it tomorrow. There was also a mysterious meeting between the Kerry campaign and all the media bigwigs including all three network anchors a few months ago.
140 posted on 05/08/2004 12:03:14 AM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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