1 posted on
05/07/2004 7:59:34 AM PDT by
van_erwin
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To: NCjim
Mark for later...
2 posted on
05/07/2004 8:04:00 AM PDT by
NCjim
To: van_erwin
At last, a "saner voice" is heard.
3 posted on
05/07/2004 8:04:34 AM PDT by
sarasota
To: van_erwin
I want to hear Unlucky Lynndie's side of the story before joining the parade. Me too.
4 posted on
05/07/2004 8:05:09 AM PDT by
Mr. Mojo
To: van_erwin
I wonder how many of them tortured, raped and killed their countrymen at that very same Abu Ghraib prison. Oh good. Your standards are now low enough that being 'not worse then them' is good enough?
Support of the mission in Iraq means nothing unless we only support the actions that further that mission, and abhor behavior like this from the few. I respect the soldiers we have over there enough to be sorry this crap has drowned out their good efforts. And I respect them enough to draw a distinction between them and these twits.
6 posted on
05/07/2004 8:12:06 AM PDT by
HairOfTheDog
(I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
To: van_erwin
Actually, when you read the Army's own report of investigation on this situation, her behavior is quite understandable. Unacceptable, as stated in the report, but understandable.
Regrettably, the report cannot address the fact that just having women in uniform and in positions of authority over men is a humiliation to Arab men.
To: van_erwin
She doesn't stand a chance. Not only is she making fun of the Arabs, but she is exposing them to second hand cigarette smoke too. Oh, the horrors!!!
9 posted on
05/07/2004 8:14:31 AM PDT by
Lokibob
(All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
To: van_erwin
Unlucky Lynndie's folks are blaming Bush. LOL
10 posted on
05/07/2004 8:15:15 AM PDT by
jerod
To: van_erwin
Justifying Lynndie's behavior is ridiculous. I have friends in Iraq right now and the actions of these few soldiers have tarnished all the hard work and goodwill they are doing. Not in my eyes of course, but the media has had a field day with the pictures. I would like to hear her side of the story but I doubt it would make me any less disgusted by her actions and the actions of her cohorts.
To: van_erwin
20 posted on
05/07/2004 8:30:21 AM PDT by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: van_erwin
I don't know why everyone assumes that England and the others acted on their own. Since the pictures we've seen were obviously staged, it is likely they were staged for a reason - i.e., to be used to intimidate new inmates: "Talk, or you'll end up like this." If so, that points to a military intelligence officer or CIA official that set up these photo sessions, and it's possible the soldiers were simply ordered to pose with the detainees. Does that mean England and the other participants are innocent victims? No, but it provides a more sensible explanation than a bunch of bored soldiers deciding out of the blue to play S&M games with Iraqi detainees. It also explains why the Pentagon has tried to keep this quiet - it was done intentionally, for a reason that is hard to explain to the media and the average American.
To: van_erwin
Here is what I consider the most interesting picture taken recently:
The man on the left basically made the decision that put the man on the right in a situation where the man lost his leg. Both men are seen jogging and smiling. The man on the right has obviously lost a lot. The man on the left has too. He will never be safe. His family will never be safe as long as they live. Many people want to kill them all.
Both men seem at peace with themselves....
Here is the funniest post on the Iraqi prison photos I have seen here in the past few days.
26 posted on
05/07/2004 8:59:55 AM PDT by
isthisnickcool
(I'm isthisnickcool, and I approved this post!)
To: van_erwin
I'm thinking this scandal was purposely revealed by the US military to distract the media while we take care of business in Najaf.
28 posted on
05/07/2004 9:06:02 AM PDT by
thoughtomator
(yesterday Kabul, today Baghdad, tomorrow Damascus)
To: van_erwin
Her actions and those of her compatriots went against the UCMJ which govern her behavior in Iraq. Let the military take thier actions against her and let her present any defense to the military justice system. I don't need to see any more of the pictures or hear any more from her. Certainly, the circus has begun.
29 posted on
05/07/2004 9:12:33 AM PDT by
JimSEA
( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
Ya know what? I don't care about "abuse" of Iraqi prisoners. Chop their heads off in the town square, for all I care.
I'll bet those creeps were Ba'athist to the core, probably had dinner and drinks with Saddam, followed by rape runs along with Udai and Qusai! They're behaving like crybabies because VICTIMHOOD SELLS.
If being berated by a no-burka-wearing Western female is worse for them than being raped, electrocuted, fed to a shredder, and having their parts sent home to mama in a Hefty bag, then these guys are a bunch of pansies. No wonder our forces routed them so soundly last year.
I don't remember where this quote came from, but it goes like this: "Arabs are dogs, fit only to be whipped."
I stand by our troops, and only regret that they are not allowed to give these creeps the agony they truly deserve.
31 posted on
05/07/2004 9:45:15 AM PDT by
FierceDraka
(The English word "Left" is translated into Latin as "Sinister". Think about it.)
To: van_erwin
Just as inmates have their rights, so do corrections officers. I want to hear Unlucky Lynndie's side of the story before joining the parade. Yep, give the perps a fair trial before a fast public hanging.
To: van_erwin
When you are dealing with prisoners whose greatest goal in life is to die while killing Americans or Jews, what other device, besides humiliation, could the guards have used to control these murderous beasts?
37 posted on
05/07/2004 10:24:58 AM PDT by
Eva
To: van_erwin
Lynndie England looks like a dyke. Pfc. Jessica Lynch was a fine soldier while England is some dykie-looking farmgirl.
38 posted on
05/07/2004 10:31:35 AM PDT by
Chinese_American_Patriot
(9/11/01 - Never Forget, NEVER Forgive!!!! Al-Fallujah, Iraq. The home of savage Islamofacists!!!!)
To: van_erwin
It is as if the late Robert Mapplethorpe got another government grant, this time to visit Iraq.I've said this from the get-go: if these photos were taken here in the US, they'd be considered 'art' by the left.
44 posted on
05/07/2004 10:41:07 AM PDT by
rintense
(Now I know why liberals hate guns... they keep shooting themselves in the foot!)
To: van_erwin; sarasota; Mr. Mojo; JustAnAmerican; sailor4321; Lokibob; jerod; Parmy; Mr. Jeeves; ...
Will one of you please tell me; Is Lynndie England the female who had sexual intercourse in front of those prisoners, and who is the one who was sent back to Fort Bragg because she was impregnated by her MP "boyfriend" in the prison? Furthermore, do you think such conduct, whether by her or some other female/male, is in compliance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice?
Cordially,
46 posted on
05/07/2004 10:42:26 AM PDT by
Diamond
To: van_erwin
Unlucky Lynndie is the anti-Jessica Lynch. The latter is blonde, the former brunette. The latter wants to be a teacher, the former plucked chickens. The latter joined the Army to get a job, the former really wanted to be a soldier. That's what the author calls a soldier!?
What U.S. Army was I in for nearly 24 years that I was a grunt in; meritorious promotion to NCO; commissioned an Infantry LT; etc? What Army? What U.S. Army was Ranger(CPL) Pat Tillman in? Would we have seen him doing something like this...ever?
Lynndie is no soldier...she's a REMF playing tough guy along with a bunch of other ill-disciplined pukes who are a disgrace to the uniform. Them and their chain-of-command need to be investigated and dealt with...the quicker the better...
Van Jenerette - www.jenerette.com
47 posted on
05/07/2004 10:45:54 AM PDT by
Van Jenerette
(US Army 1967-1991 ARMY Infantry OCS Hall of Fame - Ft. Benning)
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