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Presidential hopeful Kerry woos Jews with Israel anecdotes: A DESPERATE CRY FOR HELP
hA'ARETZ ^ | Last Update: 04/05/2004 00:37 | By Nathan Guttman, Haaretz Correspondent

Posted on 05/03/2004 3:00:14 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl

WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate Senator John Kerry on Monday tried to convey to a major Jewish audience, at the annual convention of the Anti-Defamation League, his strong personal commitment to Israel and its security.

But instead of delivering a programmatic speech on the Middle East he decided to appeal to the emotions of the audience, and spoke at length about his first visit to the country, 20 years ago, when he traveled from north to south.

Along with the personal stories, he of course also emphasized that he would never pressure Israel, would not force it to negotiate with an unreliable partner, and would continue trying as president to advance the disengagement plan.

"Whatever the future of this particular plan, if elected president I will guarantee you that I will work continuously, never disengaging as this administration did for so long, in a way that will advance that cause."

On his trip to Israel, he said: "We traveled everywhere, to all of the sites, to the north, to a kibbutz, Kiryat Shmona, which I will never forget, because it was near a school where only a few years earlier children had been murdered, innocently. And we went down into a shelter where children had to take refuge when the Katyusha rockets came across the border from Lebanon."

When the senator's delegation reached the south, he visited Uvda air force base where he asked permission from the local commanders for an overflight of the country.

Although he had limited experience as a pilot, he was given a Fuga to fly and within a few minutes, when he wanted to look out over Aqaba from above, the pilot who was accompanying him said, "Senator, you better turn quickly because otherwise you'll be in Egyptian territory."

That tale, which impressed the audience, echoes the story President George Bush tells about how he was given a helicopter tour of Israel by then opposition MK Ariel Sharon.

Kerry went on with his personal tale. "Then I asked him if I could do a loop, a little aerobatics and see it all upside down - the perfect way to see the Middle East and Israel," he said winning a laugh from the audience.

The last stop on the tour Kerry told to the audience was Masada, where, after a lengthy discussion of the suicide by the survivors on the desert plateau-palace rather than be captured by the Romans, Kerry and the other members of the delegation found themselves, he said, on the ledge where air force cadets are sworn in.

"And we stood on the edge and we yelled 'Am Yisrael chai!' [the nation of Israel lives] And boom, across came the echo, the most eerie and unbelievable sound. And we sort of looked at each other and we felt as if we were hearing the souls of those who had died there, speaking to us."


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To: Cinnamon Girl
"Then I asked him if I could do a loop, a little aerobatics and see it all upside down - the perfect way to see the Middle East and Israel,"

This guy is such a phony he makes me want to puke!!!

21 posted on 05/03/2004 6:28:11 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: presidio9
Kerry's efforts may be less aimed at winning Jewish votes (since he may figure he'll get most of them anyway, and Florida may be the only big state where they could represent the margin of victory) and more at winning Jewish contributions to his campaign, and favorable press coverage.
22 posted on 05/03/2004 6:55:45 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: dead
re:but in the end she beat Lazio 56 to 43 in the Jewish vote.)))

Is this so? I have been told on FR that she didn't do that well among Jewish voters.

Wouldn't matter if Kerry was aka "Arafat"--he'll still get the Jewish vote, which is mostly liberal. A few conservatives won't--hope that helps in Fla.

Kind of sad--like (liberal) Jews want Israel to go belly-up, like Israel is an embarrassment to them.

23 posted on 05/03/2004 7:00:45 PM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-Neo conservatism)
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To: dead
John Kerry's Florida Platform: I was Jewish before I became Catholic. I'm not Jewish, it was someone in my Family that was Jewish. They were "just" my mother and my father. But they weren't Jewish enough to stay Jewish when they came to the USA. I wasn't there but I was told that at that time it was not good to be a Jew in Boston it was better to be a Catholic. It would have been different if the Family lived in Palm Beach County then I would be Jewish and not Catholic. My family didn't give me a choice. Yes, I take communion I am also circumcised. And I have a Bible that has both the Old and the New Testaments.
BR> Bingo anyone? Let's do full card, that's where you win only if you have everything covered.
24 posted on 05/03/2004 7:15:12 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: not2worry
To the Arabs he's a Jew, but they'll take any money he gives them
25 posted on 05/03/2004 8:04:55 PM PDT by FreeReporting
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To: dead; Cinnamon Girl
I hope you're right, but I was expecting the big backlash to come against Hillary Clinton, especially after her sloppy kiss with Arafat's wife, the "effing jew bastard" comment, etc. but in the end she beat Lazio 56 to 43 in the Jewish vote....I don't know what it will take to get that voting block to move into the Republican column, but I hope they do soon.

Clearly you're of the glass half empty persuasion.

A 56-43 margin of Jewish voters is about the same as Hillary's state margin, not much of an issue as a "voting bloc". Gore carried the Jewish vote in NY State about 80-20. A third of New Yorks Jewish democratic voters crossed over to vote for Lazio, more likely to vote against Hillary. I'm not sure that's anything to complain about.

26 posted on 05/04/2004 8:29:34 AM PDT by SJackson (Slaughter the Jews wherever you find them. Their spilled blood pleases Allah, Haj Amin el-Husseini)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
27 posted on 05/04/2004 8:29:58 AM PDT by SJackson (Slaughter the Jews wherever you find them. Their spilled blood pleases Allah, Haj Amin el-Husseini)
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To: Honestfreedom
If he is not going to force Israel to negotiate with an unreliable partner how is he going to stay engaged. Engagement always translates into pressuring Israel into concessions.

Although he's flipped on it now, remember he was describing Yasser Arafat as a "role model" and a "statesman" as late as 1997. He can flop back later.

28 posted on 05/04/2004 8:37:57 AM PDT by SJackson (Slaughter the Jews wherever you find them. Their spilled blood pleases Allah, Haj Amin el-Husseini)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
"And we stood on the edge and we yelled 'Am Yisrael chai!' [the nation of Israel lives] And boom, across came the echo, the most eerie and unbelievable sound. And we sort of looked at each other and we felt as if we were hearing the souls of those who had died there, speaking to us."

Yeah I'm sure this really happened. What a horribly sappy story. Kerry you're a nerd.

29 posted on 05/04/2004 8:38:51 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Ich bin ein goyim.
30 posted on 05/04/2004 8:42:05 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: dead
But, but he's Jewish, a Cohen I think. Or maybe not, maybe Irish, a Kerry don'cha'no? He certainly is not on anyone's team but his own. He is a few sandwiches shy of a picnic and a clear danger to himself and others.
31 posted on 05/04/2004 8:46:14 AM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: Hesse3000
President Bush is not unpopular right now, what makes you think so? Been listening to the Alphabet stations, reading the unbiased media papers? Teddy Kopel, the Brit, gotten to you? George W. Bush is our only hope in this election year of our Lord 2004.
32 posted on 05/04/2004 8:53:17 AM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts (Keep your eye on the donut not on the hole!!!)
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
Just looking at the polls: I would define those numbers right now as "real popular" until they hit closer to 60%.

I agree: the Deumbocrat alternative is terribull: Scary Kerry is no JFK!
33 posted on 05/04/2004 11:11:36 AM PDT by Hesse3000
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To: presidio9
Let's not generalize.

Kerry is a real turn-off to younger Jews, smarter Jews, better informed Jews, principled Jews.

My ultra-left-wing Upper-West-Side Jewish brother didn't vote for the clintons... and he will not vote for Kerry... and he tells me his friends and colleagues (in academia) will not vote for Kerry, either. (They're voting for Nader.)

But Bush's gain is not just anti-Kerry. Bush is picking up real Jewish support, too. Mainly it's the street-smart sector who understands that terrorism trumps politics.

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34 posted on 05/06/2004 4:48:05 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Haaretz isn't buying it.
35 posted on 05/06/2004 4:49:26 AM PDT by mware
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To: Hesse3000
Where would Kerry have gotten PTSD?

btw... He claims to be jewish when it's convenient. He says he has matzoh balls. Really.
36 posted on 05/06/2004 4:55:47 AM PDT by johnb838 (Cut off an ear and ask them "How you like me now?")
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To: Mia T
I don't judge people by ethnic background, but it is a pretty straightforward exercise to look at voting history and realize that Jews typically vote Democrat, and the ones that do not are not going to switch to Kerry if he delivers his keynote address wearing a yarmulke. That being said, if he wants to waste his time going after the Jewish vote I'm certainly in favor of it.
37 posted on 05/06/2004 7:08:58 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Not sure why you think it's a 'waste of time' to work for the Jewish vote. Jews may be only about 2% of the population, they represent a much larger percentage of voters. President Bush is making BIG inroads in the Jewish vote.
38 posted on 05/06/2004 7:14:32 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl
President Bush is making BIG inroads in the Jewish vote.

I'd love to think that to. There is very little evidence to support it. From today's news:

AJC Presents Senator Clinton with Congressional Leadership Award

39 posted on 05/06/2004 7:26:27 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
I agree with you that Jews, like blacks, have been their own worst enemy.
My only point is that 9/11 and attrition have changed the calculus.


clintonism and the theology of contempt

by Mia T, November 2000 (sometime before the-first-Tuesday-after-the-first-Monday)

 

"I view Hillary Clinton as a great danger to Jews if she is elected."

former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir
Jewish Press, July 2000




I... underestimated the propensity of my people for narrow-mindedness and self-destruction (the Jewish vote for Mrs. Clinton was about 70%)....

Some anti-Semitism is irrational, founded in ignorance, as in Hillary's case....

But other forms of anti-Semitism can be earned, giving folks legitimate grievances against a people because they do crazy things like EXTEND HILLARY CLINTON'S POLITICAL LIFE!

This is not to cast the entire blame on Jewish New Yorkers; they alone couldn't have elected her. In my initial optimism, I equally underestimated the urban pseudo-intellectual's high-mindedness, as well as the Everyman's yearning for celebrity in his midst.

Julia Gorin, Getting used to Hillary
Jewish World Review
Nov. 27, 2000 / 29 Mar-Cheshvan, 5761

 

Let us hope that the rabbi's question was merely rhetorical. . . Let us hope that Rabbi Potasnik, and by extension, New York Jews, are not as credulous and obsequious and passive as they appear. . .

The simple answer to the rabbi's question is that the corrupt, self-serving, anti-Semitic, power-hungry harpy cannot be trusted.

Weren't we to never forget?

The Holocaust must remain, for Jew and Gentile alike, a constant reminder that mass credulity and obsequiousness and passivity are necessary for the demagogue to prevail.

To remember that six million Jews died in the Holocaust is to understand that centuries of anti-Semitic attitudes made this horror possible. We must ask ourselves what role our society played through the centuries that in any way contributed to the atmosphere that made such a genocide even thinkable.

Which brings me to the clintons and clintonism. . .

Senator Patrick Moynihan proffered one of the more incisive operant definitions of clintonism -- "defining deviancy down."

Defining deviancy down, indeed.

clintonism has made personal and public perversions, personal and public predations, not merely thinkable, not merely acceptable, but de rigueur. Watch us spin.

clintonism is the theology of contempt. Not only toward "f***ing Jew-bastards," or "dumb n***ers" or "extra-chromosome right-wingers" but toward any of us whose ideas are different from those of the clintons, Gore, and their acolytes.

So the real question to be answered is this:

"What fair-minded, clear-thinking person would want to continue

with its theology of contempt?

What fair-minded, clear-thinking person would vote for hillary clinton or Al Gore?" 

EPILOGUE: November 2003

One has to wonder how much longer
the Democrats
--both the leaders of the party and the rank and file--
will tolerate the clintons,
their corruption,
their ineptitude,
their utter failure to protect America from terrorism,
their hatespin
(the ugly parroting of which is on democrat display today),
their party-decimating, country-decimating self-serving agenda,
their suffocating sense of entitlement,
their rube arrogance rooted in stupidity.

The dysfunctional twofer
has plainly destroyed the Democrat Party;
it has arrogated the Democrat Party as its own
and is now remaking it in its ugly image.
How can there not be multiple coups in the works?

 
 
a senator to Henry Hyde
 
 It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope.
We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth,
and listen to the song of that siren
till she transforms us into beasts.
Is this the part of wise men,
engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?
Are we disposed to be the number of those
who, having eyes, see not,
and having ears, hear not,
the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost,
I am willing to know the whole truth;
to know the worst, and to provide for it.

Patrick Henry
 
In a dark time, the eye begins to see.
Theodore Roethke
 
But even as Clinton fails to grasp the scandal's metabolism
he understands all too well its most significant byproduct.
You can see it in his eyes.
 Once reflecting a Machiavellian confidence,
they now dart back and forth reflexively,
searching futilely for approval,
attempting desperately to dispel his own certain knowledge
that his moral authority is gone. . .
forever.
Mia T
  


 
 

 

The Curious Candidacy of Carol Moseley Braun:
an Extension of clinton drag and drop and legacy of lynching
 
by Mia T, 2.20.03

If a white person was walking down the sidewalk, a black person had to get off the sidewalk so the white person could walk by. There were laws which prohibited Blacks to look at white people in the eye, and a black person could be sent to jail for "assault (reckless eyeballing)."

... Blacks who dared to challenge the rules were lynched by the thousands. Men and women were lynched. Lynchings were public events and white men, women and children went to watch Blacks being tortured and burned or hanged... Whites literally got away with murder for killing "uppity" Blacks.

Historical Backdrop to FREEDOM SONG

 

"When 'Queen Hillary' walks down the hall, you're not supposed to look at her. You're actually supposed to go into an office if there is one nearby. She doesn't want staff 'seeing' her. And I know she sure as hell doesn't want to meet you or any other staffer!" "You have to be kidding me!" John replied. "No, we got the word at a staff meeting. It's true. Look around. Do you see anyone else in the hall?" John looked around and sure enough people were starting to emerge, like prarie dogs peeking out of their burrows after a hawk had flown past.

Gary Aldrich, "Unlimited Access"

 

"I'm doing my chores for Hillary Clinton."

RON BROWN (ON HIS COMMERCE-DEPT CRIMES) TO NOLANDA HILL

 

"I will not go down alone."

RON BROWN (DAYS BEFORE HIS DEATH, ON HIS PLEA AGREEMENT WITH THE DOJ) TO BILL CLINTON

 

"It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important." 

Ironically, the logic of this pronouncement by Martin Luther King would, in short order, be refuted by the fact of his own lynching. King's hope was misplaced and his reasoning was circular. The resultant rule of law relied on by King presumed an adherence to the rule of law in the first instance.

Adherence to the rule of law is not something normally associated with the clintons. Moreover, racial and ethnic disrespect, intimidation, exploitation and hate have always been a fundamental clinton tactic and the reflexive use the "N"-word and other racial and ethnic slurs, an essential element in the clinton lexicon. When the "first black president" and his wife ran Arkansas, the NAACP sued them for intimidating black voters at the polls.

But it is the clintons' refinement of the DNC drag and drop that is, arguably, the most insidious and repugnant application of their special brand of race-hate politics.

Drag and drop is a vote fraud technique by which unwitting, unwilling and/or illegal voters -- typically inner-city blacks and other minorities -- are literally dragged into the voting booth and told where to mark the "x" -- often multiple times per election. Drag and drop does not merely undermine and corrupt our system of government. Drag and drop is not merely illegal and exploitive.

Drag and drop is racist and dehumanizing.

Calculating a black man's worth to be 5/3 of a vote is no less racist, and arguably more so, than calculating his worth to be 3/5 of a white man; the latter is demeaning, but the former is dehumanizing.

In the senate race against Rick Lazio, it is widely understood that the drag and drop, (followed by the OLD ANGLE / NEW SQUARE / OVAL OFFICE SCHEME ) was clinton's vote fraud technique of choice used to overcome her low poll numbers, high personal negatives and consistent public failures.

 

"UPPITY" BLACKS AND THE CLINTONS

The Ron Brown death and the clinton legacy of lynching represent the pernicious endpoint, but the history of clinton race-hate politics is replete with a reflexive 'disposal' of 'uppity' blacks from to Marian Wright Edelman to Lani Guanier to Jocelyn Elders to Carl McCall...

To former Atlanta Mayor Maynard Jackson. The clintons' anointment of their man, Terry McAuliffe, to the chairmanship of the Democratic National Committee didn't merely force Maynard Jackson to the back of the bus. It pushed him off.

 

Two Degrees of Segregation: Al Sharpton, Donna Brazile, Carol Moseley Braun and the clintons

The announcement that intellectual and ethical lightweight, Carol Moseley Braun intends to run for president raises the same fundamental question that hillary clinton's looming presence does: "What the hell is this moribund loser doing in the political arena, anyway?"

In order to better understand the easy entry of Moseley Braun into democrat field, clinton-clinton precedent (president!) and the field's increasingly circus-like quality notwithstanding, one must consider the precipitating acts of Al Sharpton and Donna Brazile.

The Al Sharpton candidacy, by definition, disturbed both the clinton calculus and literati sensibilities, inspiring an immediate if ineffectual Tawana-Brawley deathblow attempt by leftist media. Sharpton's response was swift and sure. He warned that the next time the media asked him about Tawana Brawley, he would invoke the clinton scandals and the media's apparent lack of interest in same when questioning hillary clinton. (Surely the clintons' rapes and other predations would trump this quaint little hoax...)

Sharpton's Harlem office effectively burned to the ground the next day--an accident they say--but he was not deterred. The media, however, apparently were; they quickly buried Tawana Brawley beside Juanita Broaddrick, somewhere in that dark recess of expediency called access journalism.

If the clintons wanted Sharpton out because of the sheer embarrassment of him before his salvo, they now would be satisfied with no less than Sharpton's head. Donna Brazile was to neutralize (decolorize?) Sharpton by creating black favorite son candidates in every state of the union. It seems that Brazile ultimately thought the better of it, warning that dem dissing was demonstrably dumb, that Sharpton could, a la Jesse Jackson, lure crucial black voters back into the democrat fold.

So how then to siphon off the black votes that will go to Sharpton? Enter clinton lackey, Carol Moseley Braun, nothing more than a cynical extension of clinton drag and drop and legacy of lynching.


Upstaged, clinton Recycles Tired Canard, Tries New Revisionist Tack

by Mia T, 11-03-03

Biography lends to death a new terror.--Oscar Wilde

 

 

Hypocrisy abounds in this Age of Clinton, a Postmodern Oz rife with constitutional deconstruction and semantic subversion, a virtual surreality polymarked by presidential alleles peccantly misplaced or, in the case of Jefferson posthumously misappropriated...

Mia T, THE OTHER NIXON

 

  

Yesterday, Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Today, the clintons are arrogating his soul. Hardly surprising. In 1999, the clintons were not at all shy about seizing his still-warm senate seat.

One has merely to recall the Jefferson double-helix hoax to understand that posthumous misappropriation is, for the obvious reason, the clintons' preferred method of legacy inflation….

Standard-Issue clintonism

If misappropriation of Jefferson's alleles hinged on a broken line of descent, misappropriation of Moynihan's endorsement depends on a broken line of dissent. Like Sally Hemmings' progeny, Moynihan's later acquiescence is of dubious lineage

Mia T, Moynihan Myths


Chat is surprising about the clinton-Dole C-SPAN pas de deux is not that clinton demagoguery had gotten so old. What is surprising is that the tautological, snake-oil specious, gasbag sort of banality that had always been the hallmark of clintonspeak was ever considered interesting or credible in the first place.

The 60-minute C-SPAN reprise of the 60-second 60 Minutes clinton-Dole flop confirmed what the 60 Minutes separate-stages format had plainly suggested: bill clinton would be wise never to share the stage with Bob Dole.

Bob Dole displayed an easy wit; clinton served up faux-folksy bromides laced with underlying rage with stale canard-cum-corollary for good measure.

The canard: If a crook doesn't make a profit, then it's not a crime.

The corollary: The government should pursue a crook if, and only if, the crook's take exceeds the government's cost to nail him.

hillary talks: ON CLINTON "FINANCES"

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Casuistry in the service of clinton revisionism....

Posthumous misappropriation is, for the obvious reason, the clintons' preferred method of legacy inflation. While downward revision ("defining deviancy down") is the classic clinton m.o., (see Jefferson double-helix hoax), clinton, exposed, is now arguing the obverse; the double negative offers the illusion of a higher ground.

If the purpose of the canard and corollary is to nullify Whitewater, the purpose of the claim that Ulysses S. Grant was unfairly maligned is to point the clinton hagiographers in the direction of the nonjudgmental... and the non sequitur.

That is, if Grant was unfairly maligned as a drunk, then, according to clinton deconstructionist logic, it follows that clinton was unfairly maligned as a rapist, traitor, perjurer, suborner of perjury, cheat, obstructor of justice, abuser of power, psychopath, corruptor of children, murderer, incompetent, utter failure, proximate cause of 911, and so forth.




40 posted on 05/06/2004 7:33:53 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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