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5 Empty Suitcases Found In NYC In 5 Different Locations/Also Missing Fuel Tanker Truck
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| 5-2-04
| my favorite headache
Posted on 05/02/2004 10:37:29 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
I have waited and looked around and did not see this posted. NYPD and the FBI have found 5 empty identical suitcases in 5 different locations around NYC. Subway station, Penn Station, 2 government buildings and a sidewalk.
Also missing is a huge fuel tanker truck out of New Jersey that has vanished and was full.
This story was mentioned in the last hour...anyone catch it? The Fed's are thinking this might be a test run for terrorists to see what the response time would be to suitcases being left and found in a location ala Spain attacks. They also fear the gas tanker might be used to ram a building with explosives and level it.
TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: homelandsecurity; tankertrucks; threats
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To: My Favorite Headache
Missing Tanker Sought
- New Jersey License Plate T-852SC
Apr 21, 2004 9:45 am US/Eastern
The search continues for a stolen gasoline tanker truck missing for more than a week from its owners in Pennsauken, New Jersey.
There are concerns the theft could be terrorism-related, which is why law enforcement agencies throughout New Jersey are looking for that truck.
The 9,000 gallon chrome-plated tanker was stolen between April 8th and 12th. It took a couple of days before the owners reported the theft.
It was empty at the time and lacks the proper federal stickers to legally fill it up, but Camden County prosecutor Vincent Sarubbi would rather be safe than sorry:
"Our office, along with the FBI and all law enforcement agencies for that matter, have to really look into this and try to locate this tanker."
It could be a simple theft or something more sinister, given fears of terrorism.
The tank has "TK Transport" painted on both sides and sports a New Jersey license of
T-852SC.
If you have any information about this tanker call police immediately.
MMIV, CBS Broadcasting Inc., All Rights Reserved.
To: areafiftyone
You notice they didn't say how long it took for the police to notice these suitcases. ROFLMAO ..... er just how might one determine how long something was there before you noticed it was there? ;-)
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posted on
05/02/2004 11:13:01 AM PDT
by
HoustonCurmudgeon
(RIP U. S. Army Specialist Pat Tillman)
To: John H K
They are not "crappy."
63
posted on
05/02/2004 11:13:05 AM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(There are very few shades of gray.)
To: Imperialist
I was reading again about
Bojinka just this week. If they had pulled this off...
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posted on
05/02/2004 11:15:11 AM PDT
by
cgk
To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Heck I've seen knapsacks and other stuff that could hold a detonation device sitting all by themselves not even noticed by policemen because they were too busy joking and laughing with each other. Alot of them stand and talk in a group and don't patrol the areas. I have seen that many times.
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posted on
05/02/2004 11:15:39 AM PDT
by
areafiftyone
(Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
To: juliew203
why can't we require all tankers and small aricraft to be immediately fitted with GPS systems so that they can be tracked at all times? Then if one is missing, we know where to shoot. This seems like a very cost-eefective way to end this problem.Sure, unless you are the one buying all the GPS systems, and keeping them working. You know... Why stop at tankers and aircraft? You can fit quite a bit of gas in any truck, or horse trailer, or volkswagon. Lets just make everyone wear a tracking device!
66
posted on
05/02/2004 11:16:04 AM PDT
by
HairOfTheDog
(I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
To: boycott
"Well, I think anyone wearing a towel on their head should be forced to leave the country or dropped in the ocean."Even blondes who just got out of the shower? I vote no.
67
posted on
05/02/2004 11:17:38 AM PDT
by
hollywood
(Stay on topic, please.)
To: HairOfTheDog
No....it is not fined for being robbed...these places were put on notice by the Department of Homeland Security a long time ago. They should be fined for lack of compliance with new security meansures relating to their equipment....something as simple as failure to guard the parking lot, for Pete's sake, is now breaking a law that governs their sort of business...that is mandated, I am sure, under the new directives.
To: EggsAckley
"why?" It would be tipping their hand. If this were a "rehearsal," for an act to be perpetrated at a later date, all efforts would be made to maintain as low a profile as possible.
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posted on
05/02/2004 11:18:37 AM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
("We deal in hard calibers and hot lead." - Roland Deschaines)
To: juliew203
something as simple as failure to guard the parking lot, for Pete's sakeHow much do you actually know about what they did and didn't do, and what is required of them by law and practicality?
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posted on
05/02/2004 11:19:17 AM PDT
by
HairOfTheDog
(I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
To: jimbo123
"If there's some way they can get into the terminal and fill up with jet fuel, it's a very large bomb," he said. Kerosine is not exactly the best choice for terrorist activites. Maybe we should let them think that, though.
To: MediaMole
You're right of course... However, I don't think actual terrorists are as naive as the knee jerk citizen.
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posted on
05/02/2004 11:24:34 AM PDT
by
HairOfTheDog
(I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
To: My Favorite Headache
Excellent points.
An attack will happen here within the next six months.
To: My Favorite Headache
Possibly a concerned citizen trying to see if we are ready by placing the suitcases. As for the tanker, who knows.
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posted on
05/02/2004 11:27:04 AM PDT
by
Husker24
To: My Favorite Headache
NYPD and the FBI have found 5 empty identical suitcases in 5 different locations around NYC. Subway station, Penn Station, 2 government buildings and a sidewalk.
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posted on
05/02/2004 11:29:28 AM PDT
by
csvset
To: John H K; Dr. Eckleburg
>Where's the satellite surveillance for this?
>>You've been watching too many crappy spy thriller movies.
Does New York City
have street cameras? Between
street cameras and
security cams,
they should get plenty of pics
of who dropped the bags.
To: My Favorite Headache
3. Part 3 of this is...will Americans still be pissed that we had soldiers put Iraqi terrorists in a cheerleader pyramid? Are you kidding? The liberals will sing Kumbaya for a few days and make off like they really "care" [I'm sorry but Hitlery singing on the Capitol Hill steps with everyone else right after 9-11 was suspect to me THEN]. Then John Kerry will blather about how important it will be to get the immoral French and Germans on our side, when they have been buddy-buddy with Saddam and his minions for years.
I don't think it was a "good idea" for any US soldier to mishandle POWs. All it does is make them LESS likely to give up. Don't forget in the first Gulf War they were surrendering left and right in part because Americans have a reputation of treating POWs humanely. RATS who are cornered will fight to the death if they think you are going to kill them anyway...so all they end up doing is firming up their resolve to take more of US with them. All those idiots acting unprofessionally [to say the least] did was sign the death warrents of fellow soldiers.
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posted on
05/02/2004 11:31:06 AM PDT
by
gemoftheocean
(geez, this is all straight-forward and logical to me....)
To: areafiftyone
Heck I've seen knapsacks and other stuff that could hold a detonation device sitting all by themselves not even noticed by policemen because they were too busy joking and laughing with each other. Alot of them stand and talk in a group and don't patrol the areas. I have seen that many times.Yeah - they don't actually ~try~ to do their job... They actually ~want~ to fail. < /sarcasm >
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posted on
05/02/2004 11:31:25 AM PDT
by
HairOfTheDog
(I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
To: juliew203
why can't we require all tankers and small aricraft to be immediately fitted with GPS systems so that they can be tracked at all times? Then if one is missing, we know where to shoot.
This seems like a very cost-eefective way to end this problem.
Could catch a few, provided the perps are too dumb to scan the vehicle for radio sources, and remove them as soon as they're in the clear, perhaps even replacing them with another "legitimate" device that allows them to masquerade as valid. ID verification can be tricky.
Your suggestion would add another layer of risk to perps, however (there are ways to defeat their scanning strategy, and to encrypt signals so that they're not so easy to fake). However, putting it into place is unlikely to occur before the next serious attempt to make a "big bloody splash" somewhere.
And, until such an attempt succeeds, or visibly nearly succeeds, there will likely continue to be plenty of security clueless facilities like this one from which the truck was stolen and NOT MISSED FOR THREE DAYS (!).
Mistakes will be made. People will die. That's how it will be as long as our general population does not take this war as seriously as those who've declared war on us. Even after that, people will die, but perhaps fewer, and in less preventable ways.
To: My Favorite Headache
>
5 Empty Suitcases Found In NYC
It's tough, thinking that
we might see five dirty bombs
go off together . . .
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