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Too much skin showing at school?
Chicago Daily Herald ^ | April 28, 2004

Posted on 04/30/2004 11:00:07 AM PDT by presidio9

Malena Schroeder is fed up.

She's fed up with high school students wearing visible thong underwear, blue jeans that droop low on the hips or skimpy blouses that show - in her opinion - too much skin.

A Mundelein High School District 120 board member who also regularly volunteers at the school, Schroeder doesn't consider herself prudish. But she's tired of walking through the school hallways and seeing provocatively dressed kids who look like they popped out of a racy music video.

"If I'm an adult and I'm distracted, I can only imagine what effect it might have on teenagers in that environment," she said.

During a board meeting earlier this week, Schroeder called for administrators to more stringently enforce the facility's dress code or adopt stricter rules that could include uniforms. She received support from other trustees and from audience members who applauded her request.

The proposal also was backed by Superintendent Stan Fields, who promised a committee will study the issue.

"There's something to be said for preparing students for life after high school and (teaching) appropriate grooming habits and dress habits," Fields said. "It's pretty difficult to get a job when your rear end is hanging out."

Mundelein isn't the only suburban high school wrestling with dress-code concerns. Wauconda High School and the other schools in Wauconda Unit District 118 tightened clothing policies for the 2003-04 term, banning belly-baring tops, low-rise pants and other revealing garments.

Similar rules have been adopted in recent years at high schools in Buffalo Grove, Naperville, St. Charles and other towns.

Public-school dress codes, including those requiring students wear uniforms, are legal under Illinois and federal laws. Although courts have ruled garments with political slogans are protected by the First Amendment, educators can restrict the size or style of student clothing.

"You have the right to free expression. You probably don't have the right to show off your belly ring," said Ed Yohnka, spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites) of Illinois.

Mundelein High updated its dress code in 2002. Among the restrictions is a rule requiring clothes cover all skin and underwear between the armpit and mid-thigh.

Violators can be asked to change into more appropriate clothes or wear a baggy Mundelein High T-shirt over offending garments, school spokeswoman Kelley Happ said. On "rare occasions," she said, some are sent home.

Schroeder, who has two teenagers enrolled at Mundelein, believes those rules aren't properly enforced. Too many times she's seen students with pants that don't cover their underwear or whose shirts reveal skin at the midriff.

"It's become the norm," she said. "There's a time and a place for that kind of dress. It shouldn't be school attire."

If parents can't control what their kids wear, Schroeder said, school administrators or the board must step in and make sure teens are dressed appropriately. If that means stronger enforcement of the existing dress code or the adoption of uniforms, she said, so be it.

"It's our responsibility to make sure that our kids can focus and have some decorum," Schroeder said.

Mundelein High junior Stephanie Urban thinks officials who want to crack down on dress-code abuses are overreacting. Students dress better than they used to, she said.

Jessy Wisniewski, another junior, likes to wear shorts or skirts to school and said she has been sent home for sporting clothes considered too risque.

"I'm 16. I can legally drive. But people are going to tell me (what's) appropriate for school?" she said. "I mean, I'm not coming to school dressed in a bikini."

Students who oppose uniforms may have a surprising ally: board President Thomas M.P. Hannigan, who thinks better enforcement of the existing code is the answer.

"My high school had a uniform. My grammar school had a uniform. And I don't think I learned any better because of that," Hannigan said. "I think we have a reasonable dress code. Before the school board jumps in and makes changes, let's see how an enforced dress code works."

Dress: Board president doesn't back uniforms


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1 posted on 04/30/2004 11:00:07 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Every generation has their thing, I remember (with fondness) hot pants.
2 posted on 04/30/2004 11:02:15 AM PDT by SF Republican (Life ain't fair and I'm glad)
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To: presidio9
I'm sorry, but most parents let their 11 year olds walk around in public looking like $40 whores.
3 posted on 04/30/2004 11:02:53 AM PDT by Huck (In the Soviet Union, the Admin Moderators ruled.)
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To: presidio9
The girls wearing those low-riders expose more butt-crack than my plumber.
4 posted on 04/30/2004 11:03:34 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: presidio9
her customers want to be sexy and feminine – in sizes from 12-to-26.

Trying desperately to bite my tongue.

5 posted on 04/30/2004 11:04:05 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer

As all of us had the misfortune of discovering, thongs have been available for women of, um, "plus sizes" since at least the mid 90's...

6 posted on 04/30/2004 11:10:04 AM PDT by presidio9 ("See, mother, I make all things new.")
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To: mountaineer
Hey! Oh wait...okay.
7 posted on 04/30/2004 11:10:33 AM PDT by tongue-tied
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To: presidio9
"I'm 16. I can legally drive. But people are going to tell me (what's) appropriate for school?" she said. "I mean, I'm not coming to school dressed in a bikini."

Three of the most useless things in the world: boobs on a dyke, balls on a fag, and the opinion of a teenager.

8 posted on 04/30/2004 11:10:52 AM PDT by Agnes Heep (Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster)
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To: presidio9
I like the term "prostitots"
9 posted on 04/30/2004 11:11:29 AM PDT by biblewonk (Horatius Bonar)
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To: presidio9
Maybe we should just have the kids come to school naked.... and abandon all pretense of anything but prurient interest on the part of the faculty.
10 posted on 04/30/2004 11:12:32 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Agnes Heep
You left out tits on a bull and gold rings in hog's noses.
11 posted on 04/30/2004 11:13:03 AM PDT by biblewonk (Horatius Bonar)
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To: Huck
"I'm sorry, but most parents let their 11 year olds walk around in public looking like $40 whores"

Don't be sorry-this is true. Now I have to learn to sew because the clothes for my 6yo (besides sweats) have that look. We are blessed because we are able to homeschool our children and don't have to deal with the popular dress battle.
12 posted on 04/30/2004 11:13:52 AM PDT by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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To: presidio9
It's increasingly difficult for my conservative 16-year-old daughter to find clothes that are not revealing. I've gone with her; it blows my mind what the stores put on the racks for teenage girls.
13 posted on 04/30/2004 11:14:42 AM PDT by kezekiel
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To: presidio9
How can these young women think they look good, when they're wearing low-rider pants with their big fat guts and spare tires hanging over the belt.
14 posted on 04/30/2004 11:14:58 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Agnes Heep
Testify!
15 posted on 04/30/2004 11:15:38 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: presidio9
I must admit that back when I was in high school and pretty girls showed up wearing little more than bikinis. .......well, let's just say I was ok with it ;)~
16 posted on 04/30/2004 11:15:44 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: biblewonk
You left out tits on a bull and gold rings in hog's noses.

biblewonk gets the award of the day for relevant Bible reference:

Prov 11:22-Like a gold ring in a pig's snout is a beautiful woman who shows no discretion.

Although I must say that I think the analogy is meant more to show the innapropriate blending of the beautiful and base than to show useless function.

18 posted on 04/30/2004 11:20:13 AM PDT by kezekiel
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To: SF Republican
" Every generation has their thing, I remember (with fondness) hot pants."

I remember tube tops with bras burned. Guess even feminist are good for something.

19 posted on 04/30/2004 11:20:24 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: Annie03
It's really out of control. Just 10 years ago, the only girls you saw with bellies showing and exposed tatoos on their backsides were strippers. Now you see it at every bustop. It's sick.
20 posted on 04/30/2004 11:20:27 AM PDT by Huck (In the Soviet Union, the Admin Moderators ruled.)
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