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And the laugh was still there (Foxnews fans are crazies!!)
GlobeandMail ^ | 04/29/04 | JOHN DOYLE

Posted on 04/29/2004 8:19:27 PM PDT by Pikamax

And the laugh was still there

By JOHN DOYLE From Thursday's Globe and Mail

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Let's start with a conclusion. The Fox News Channel, its chief ranter Bill O'Reilly and the channel's rabid followers are the lunatic fringe of the American culture.

I can say this with certainty because I've now got an earful from O'Reilly several times over, but I've also heard from thousands of American readers who view Fox News and O'Reilly with utter loathing and deep embarrassment.

I think Fox News Channel is comically overheated with its wailing about "left-wingers" and "elites." I also think O'Reilly is nothing more than an intolerant windbag, what the Irish astutely call a gobshite.

If somebody wants to make the Fox News Channel available in Canada, fine. Believe me, if you thought Dan Rather's occasional outbursts of jittery, googly-eyed American jingoism were comical, you haven't seen anything yet. O'Reilly makes our Ed the Sock look like a reasonable chap.

The Fox News philosophy of finger-pointing about perceived lapses in patriotism and suspicion of outsiders is no more representative of the true spirit of the United States than the Taliban represents Islam.

A week ago, I wrote about how my mockery of Fox News and O'Reilly had resulted in some highly abusive and comically ill-written e-mail from the United States.

This stirred many Americans to write and apologize for their fellow Americans, and for the existence of Fox News. That was the story so far. Then The New York Times called.

Last Sunday, the Times carried a feature about my mockery of Fox News and O'Reilly, the expletive-filled responses from his followers and the apologies that followed. The Times found it funny, and it was. It turns out that a lot of Americans read The New York Times on a Sunday.

Since then I have received thousands upon thousands of e-mails from Americans who are mortified. People in New York, Chicago, Seattle, Denver and Phoenix have invited me out to dinner. Many others have invited me to stay in their homes.

I've been invited to give a talk in Denver. Schoolchildren, retirees, registered Republicans and Democrats have written to apologize for the abusive mail I received from Fox News fans.

Many join in my amusement at the barking-mad antics on Fox News. They know, as Americans usually do, that by laughing we drain the fanatics of their significance.

This past week, Bill O'Reilly seems obsessed with Canada. This probably mystifies many of his American viewers. On Tuesday, Globe columnist Rick Salutin was on his radio show. On Tuesday evening, my fellow Globe columnist and friend Heather Mallick was on his TV show. In all instances, he attacked Canada and The Globe and Mail. When he spoke to . Mallick, he proclaimed that if Canada harbours two "deserters" from the U.S. military who don't want to return to duty in Iraq, there would be a nationwide boycott of Canada, which will result in a recession.

The threatening, hectoring hysteria is precisely what makes much of Fox News Channel amusing to Canadians and mortifies many Americans. Most of us, no matter what way we lean politically, believe in Canada as a just society. Tolerance, kindness and respect are more valued than shouted attacks and threats. Mistakes are allowed. Forgiveness exists.

Bill O'Reilly is now obsessed with Canada for several reasons. First, he's stung by the realization that Canadians might laugh at his aggressiveness. Second, The Times piece about the abusive letters revealed that many of his supporters are foul-mouthed fanatics. Third, Canada represents an irritating calmness and assuredness at a time when the American culture is in crisis. To paraphrase W. B. Yeats (an Irish writer who the American-Irish O'Reilly should acquaint himself with), our hearts have not grown brutal from the fray.

In the midst of all those thousands of e-mails from sympathetic, embarrassed Americans, I also received a handful of abusive insults, both personal and directed at Canada. One man wrote: "Canada is little more than a pimple on the Earth's ass." Well, we know we irritate you. And we know we'll laugh when Fox News comes to Canada.

From the volume of apologetic mail I've received, it seems certain that the generous, humorous spirit of the United States is not dead and has not been lost. The shrill minority of the lunatic fringe that follows and supports Fox News has merely temporarily shouted it down. Bring Fox News here by all means, and let's have a laugh. Americans can learn from that.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antiamericanism; bigot; canada; canuckistan; ccrm; foxbashing; foxnews; liberalbigot; liberalelites; lyingliars; mediabias; privatebroadcaster; racist; socialism; socialist; socializedtelevision; waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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To: nopardons
ALL the good ones are taken.


Except for me.
41 posted on 04/29/2004 10:45:22 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Pikamax
Then why don't they carry FOX in Canada? It seems to me they wouldn't have anything to worry about since, according to this guy, no one up there would watch it. So why not allow it to be shown?
42 posted on 04/29/2004 10:48:29 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Texas Eagle
I daresay that you can get ''6-to-5 and pick 'em'' on that proposition, m'friend! (g!)
43 posted on 04/29/2004 11:06:03 PM PDT by SAJ (So, ya wanna buy a bridge, eh? Lemme see what I've got in stock...)
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To: Petronski
Oh dear...my daughter is married,all of her Conservative friends are too.She has two LIBERAL,unwed friends,who she's trying to indoctrinate,but I doubt that you'd be interested in either of them.

SORRY...I wish I could be of more help.

44 posted on 04/29/2004 11:13:16 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Pikamax
John Doyle proves that petulance springs from insignificance. Doyle could die tomorrow and no one would notice or care.
45 posted on 04/30/2004 12:12:56 AM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: jagrmeister
Another thought: O'Reilly has a tendency of elevating the stature of pathetic non-entities by having an ongoing war of words with them. Best approach is to get the last word and then let the Doyles of the world sink back into obscurity and crawling under the rock they came from.
46 posted on 04/30/2004 12:15:30 AM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: Pikamax
Last Sunday, the Times carried a feature about my mockery of Fox News and O'Reilly, the expletive-filled responses from his followers and the apologies that followed. The Times found it funny, and it was. It turns out that a lot of Americans read The New York Times on a Sunday.

Think the NYSlimes would ever print an article of the death threats and insults that O'Reilly, Colmes, and other Fox staffers routinely receive?

The foul mouthed liberals at Democratic Underground cheer dead US soldiers. Certainly "conservatives" aren't the only ones who send obnoxious emails to public figures.

47 posted on 04/30/2004 1:22:50 AM PDT by weegee (JFinKerry used the words Medals and Ribbons interchangeably before he didn't.)
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To: an amused spectator
'E's larffing at us, 'e is.

Don't mistake the braying of a jackass for laughter.

48 posted on 04/30/2004 1:24:15 AM PDT by weegee (JFinKerry used the words Medals and Ribbons interchangeably before he didn't.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Compared to there total population, meaning on a percentage basis the Globe and Mail reaches more people per capita, than fox or other american news outlets except maybe the big 3 alphabets.
49 posted on 04/30/2004 11:03:21 AM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually Voted for John Kerry before I voted against Him)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; bamabaseballmom; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; ...
FoxFan ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

50 posted on 04/30/2004 10:13:30 PM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
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To: Pikamax; All
OHH This dude is riot

HEY you know guys I used live in Alaska I used spent time in Canada eh Pikamax if they could handle Don Cherry of Canada hockey night they could handle ole Bill
51 posted on 04/30/2004 10:18:03 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Texas Eagle; All
OMGGG Rack that reset

OHHH dont' be bunch of hoser Canada eh

OMGG I was hoping one of Freeper do that reset

Rackkkk itttt
52 posted on 04/30/2004 10:20:17 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: kcvl; All
Well according to FCC of Canada CNN and Al Jabezza call it bias

Reason why I love Fox news they have all international news on their Fox report including cute animal stories sometime

I rather do business with Fox news had back up of SKY News

rack itt
53 posted on 04/30/2004 10:21:55 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: nutmeg
Thanks for the ping!
54 posted on 04/30/2004 10:43:31 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Allan
Bump
55 posted on 05/01/2004 12:42:16 AM PDT by Allan
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To: SevenofNine
OMGGG Rack that reset OHHH dont' be bunch of hoser Canada eh OMGG I was hoping one of Freeper do that reset Rackkkk itttt

Errrrrr......no offense intended but what does all that mean?

56 posted on 05/01/2004 1:48:52 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Pikamax
I think Fox News Channel is comically overheated with its wailing about "left-wingers" and "elites."

That's not the Fox News I know..well, maybe one hour each evening...but the rest is fairly neutral.

57 posted on 05/01/2004 2:00:26 PM PDT by TankerKC (Can Muslims use HAM radios?)
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