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Bush to Press: "You're Assuming That You Represent the Public. I Don't Accept That."
Press Think ^ | April 25, 2004 | Jay Rosen

Posted on 04/27/2004 10:29:33 AM PDT by Thud

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To: Thud; Timesink; *CCRM; governsleastgovernsbest; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; ...
Media Schadenfreude ping - The Bush Thesis: "...reporters, a conniving special interest"

"Further data point: The Bush Thesis. If Auletta's reporting is on, then Bush and his advisors have their own press think, which they are trying out as policy. Reporters do not represent the interests of a broader public. They aren't a pipeline to the people, because people see through the game of Gotcha. The press has forfeited, if it ever had, its quasi official role in the checks and balances of government. Here the Bush Thesis is bold. It says: there is no such role official or otherwise."

On, Off, or grab it for a Media Shenanigans/Schadenfreude/PNMCH ping:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~anamusedspectator/

Buckets and buckets of Schade. This article is a full-course meal. Enjoy. ;-)

21 posted on 04/27/2004 12:16:42 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Kristen Breitweiser didn't want to learn how to land the 9/11 Commission; she only wanted to steer)
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To: counterpunch
But we have the power of the Internet. Drudge was one of the firsts. Jim Rob was another one. How many of us on FR knew of the same voices that exist prior to FR? With the PC, we have the Internet and can create our own newspapers.
22 posted on 04/27/2004 12:31:05 PM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: Southack
Correct. I want that - who, what, where, when, why, how - in news stories. If I want opinion, I'll read the editorials.
23 posted on 04/27/2004 12:33:02 PM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: 7thson
Yeah, that's true, and collectively we have the ability to nudge the debate, or at least inform each other below the mass media drone.

But none of us as a single individual, with the possible exception of Matt Drudge, has the ability to so radically change the debate as one journalist, op-ed writer, or editor at the New York Times does.

Not even Joseph Farrah or Christopher Ruddy has the power to break through the monotonous and relentless hum of the mass media machine.
24 posted on 04/27/2004 12:38:28 PM PDT by counterpunch (<-CLICK HERE for my CARTOONS)
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To: Thud
I really appreciate this post. Very informative, and strategeric. ;-D
25 posted on 04/27/2004 12:42:22 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: Thud
You don't have that kind of muscle any more, so shut the f... up."

Exactly

26 posted on 04/27/2004 12:53:39 PM PDT by Porterville (Kerry has no gravitas!!!)
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To: HammerLane

Bush carried much more of the popular vote than Clinton did in '92. You must be from Arkansas.
27 posted on 04/27/2004 12:54:01 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: HammerLane; Admin Moderator
Your story has grown tiresome.
28 posted on 04/27/2004 1:03:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: an amused spectator; 7thson
Thank you for the ping!

Does anyone here doubt that without the power of this site, Drudge, Rush, FOX news and alternative media that we would have seen the Dean implosion live? No the Partisan Media would have cut away until it was time to have him implode and then shown a video that suddenly surfaced.

Would we be seeing the exposure of the soulless John F. Kerry? No.

Though the Clinton/Gore DNC Cabal likes to take credit for using (even inventing) the Internet, it is conservatives who have energized it with good research, provable information and reporting.
29 posted on 04/27/2004 1:11:45 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: HammerLane
"...couldn't carry a majority of the popular vote".

GOOD. Our elections are not based on the ol' mob rule!
30 posted on 04/27/2004 1:14:54 PM PDT by katz (Dogs are best friends. (They love their nine kitty cats too).)
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To: BlessedByLiberty
...it is conservatives who have energized it with good research, provable information and reporting.

Indeed. :-)

31 posted on 04/27/2004 1:56:52 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Kristen Breitweiser didn't want to learn how to land the 9/11 Commission; she only wanted to steer)
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To: HammerLane
"Mighty big talk for one who couldn't carry a majority of the popular vote"


What's your point? Trying to pick a fight?
32 posted on 04/27/2004 1:58:21 PM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: dfwgator
Your story has grown tiresome.

ROFL! Sprockets bump :)


33 posted on 04/27/2004 1:59:08 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Thud; jimrob; Bob J
This is a very interesting article. It is not taut, it is repetitious. That is one of the vices of bloggers, who are not constrained by length of articles and who do less editing and reviewing.

However, it contains one gem of an idea. Yes, both the Internet and bloggers SHOULD have a seat at the table. I hereby suggest that Jim Robinson should apply for the issuance of White House Press Corps credentials for FreeRepublic. The worse they can do is say no, but the White House (which has the call) might just see an opportunity and say yes.

JimRob might also suggest that Salon.com ALSO be credentialed at the same time. (We will run rings around Salon, don't you know, in head-to-head competition.) Just a thought.

Congressman Billybob

Click here, then click the blue CFR button, to join the anti-CFR effort (or visit the "Hugh & Series, Critical & Pulled by JimRob" thread). Please do it now.

34 posted on 04/27/2004 2:02:03 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Thud
"Oh, you're interested in headlines, and you're interested in conflict. You're not interested in having a serious discussion... and exploring things."

Of course, some of this is the fault of the public's infatuation with things like car wrecks on the highway. If the media can just present some sensationalism like scandal or conflict, they sell more TV time and newspapers, so they are subservient to the profit motive as well.

Bush is so very right, though, in that "big media" does not represent the general public at all.

35 posted on 04/27/2004 2:07:32 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: HammerLane

36 posted on 04/27/2004 2:22:38 PM PDT by shiva
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To: HammerLane
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HammerLane,


Bush to Press: "You're Assuming That You Represent the Public. I Don't Accept That."

Mighty big talk for one who couldn't carry a majority of the popular vote. He must be from Texas.


Prudential Ideas often start with small words.

President Bush has finally targeted the Liberal Media's Achilles Heel : Neutralizing the Media Myth that they're Actually Important.


That sure sounds like a Churchillian concept to me, HammerLane (Churchillian is Texan for "a big idea whose time has finally come).

Perhaps you're echoing the weeping and nashing of teeth nowa-days regularly heard from ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR and Airy-America (LOL).


Now ... about Bush's "quite legitimate" 2000 Presidential Election Victory.


The Constitution's Framers saw fit to create the Electorial College, and they're the same guys who penned the First Admendment.

They did it for good reason.

History will very powerfully argue (in fifty years) that Bush's 2004 election (vis-a-via the Electorial College) was probably what kept America from becoming the Nuclear Ash-Heap that the "Religion of Peace" has planned for Western Europe.

Don't make the same mistake that Anne Richards, Hillary Clinton, and the "European Weasels" made in Underestimating G.W. Bush ....



Patton@Bastogne

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37 posted on 04/27/2004 2:25:38 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (John "Heinz" Kerry won't be the Nov-2004 Democratic Presidential Nominee)
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To: HammerLane
Mighty big talk for one who couldn't carry a majority of the popular vote. He must be from Texas.

President Bush won such a majority of the popular vote that the democrats failed to produce enough fraudulent votes and lost.

Why do you think they tried so hard in FL? They realized that they cheated too light and tried to create some more votes in the recount.

In reality George Bush won a landslide

38 posted on 04/27/2004 2:26:30 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: HammerLane
You don't have to win the popular vote to become President, only the electoral votes.

The whine is stale.
39 posted on 04/27/2004 2:31:51 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: counterpunch
The press, last time I checked, is not elected. They are self-appointed, and their power is purchased. Each and every one of us whose voices are silenced ask ourselves at one time or another "why don't I have the power to shape the debate?" And we always come to the same conclusion: "Because I cannot afford to buy the New York Times."

Very well said.

40 posted on 04/27/2004 2:35:41 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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