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Kerry hits back on medals, calls it 'phony controversy'
Washington Times ^
| 4/27/04
| Charles Hurt
Posted on 04/26/2004 10:24:51 PM PDT by kattracks
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:14:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Sen. John Kerry yesterday denied charges that he lied about throwing his war medals away on the steps of the U.S. Capitol during a 1971 antiwar rally.
For years, he's maintained that he threw away his ribbons and the medals of another soldier
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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gma; goodmorningamerica; kerry; medals; medaltossing
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posted on
04/26/2004 10:24:53 PM PDT
by
kattracks
To: kattracks
How fitting: A phony man calls it a phony controversy. Sounds just like John Forbes Kerry.
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posted on
04/26/2004 10:27:30 PM PDT
by
KillBill
To: kattracks
Mr. Kerry also said yesterday the confusion might have arisen because he uses the term "ribbons" and "medals" interchangeably. Ahhhhh....kinda like the way he uses the words "for" and "against" interchangeably.
To: kattracks
Whoa.... That's some real gall for this pathetic little scumbag Kerry to whine about a 'phony controversy', after his minions in the Democrat Party and their faithful sidekicks in the liberal newsrooms fabricated and perpetuated a
real phony controversy about Dubya's Guard service.
This guy Kerry is in way, way over his head.
I only hope he can hang in there until after the Democrat convention.
To: kattracks
"Here's the truth," said Sen. Richard J. Durbin, Illinois Democrat. "While many, like the vice president, chose not to serve, John Kerry volunteered for Vietnam, risked his life and was honored for his courage." Kerry voluntereed for Vietnam?
For Vietnam combat?
That is what Kerry and the Democrats want us to believe and that is the version they are putting out. However, that version is pure Bravo Sierra and is not supported by the facts or by Kerry's own statements.
It would indeed be extremely admirable if Kerry had knowingly voluntereed for Vietnam combat.
However, Kerry never volunteered for combat or any duty he dreamed would get him into combat.
Kerry was the First Division Officer when he served on the USS Gridley.
John F. Kerry, the junior U.S. Senator from Massachusetts is positioning himself for a run at the Presidency in 2004. Ensign (and later LTJG Kerry) reported aboard GRIDLEY straight out of the Fleet Training Center, San Diego on 8 June 1967. This boot Ensign headed up First Division and is shown here with Calvert BM1 and BMCS Enochs. His biographical materials never mention this period even though he was aboard GRIDLEY much longer than he was in Vietnam. Between having these two old salts reporting to him and Captain Slifer after him all the time, Ensign Kerry was a busy young man.
What is "First Division"?
First Division is one of the "Deck Divisions" on a ship. In Navy slang, the "Deck Apes". They swab the decks. They chip paint. They paint the areas they finished chipping. After that, they swab, they chip and they paint some more. The bottom of the class at Navy Boot Camp ends up in a Deck Division.
In the Ward Room, the First Division Officer is the lowest guy in the ship's officers pecking order. When the XO or the CO need an S.L.J.O. (Shitty Little Jobs Officer), the First Division Officer is the guy that gets the job.
Kerry was in charge of the least skilled sailors in the lowest prestige division on his ship and, apparently, his C.O., Captain Slifer, was not making life very pleasant for our Boston Blue Blood who was more used to sailing on John F. Kennedy's yacht.
What to do?
Swift boats!
At the time, swift boats merely patrolled the coastline or ferried sailors between ships.
Most importantly, a lowly Lt.(j.g.) was the Officer in Charge (OIC).
Instead of being the SLJO on the USS Gridley, in charge of Deck Ape Division, with Captain Slifer making his life miserable, Kerry pictured himself as the OIC of his own boat, roaring up and down the South China Sea out of the war and with no Captain Slifer anywhere in sight.
But, don't take my word for it.
Let's hear it from John F. Kerry himself:
Boston Globe, 6/16/2003: ........"I didn't really want to get involved in the war," Kerry said in a little-noticed contribution to a book of Vietnam reminiscences published in 1986. "When I signed up for the swift boats, they had very little to do with the war. They were engaged in coastal patrolling and that's what I thought I was going to be doing."......... But two weeks after he arrived in Vietnam, the swift boat mission changed -- and Kerry went from having one of the safest assignments in the escalating conflict to one of the most dangerous.
Two weeks after Kerry assumed command of his swift boat, Admiral Elmo Zumwalt put into effect his idea of getting those swift boats out of glorified water skiing duty........
Picture of yours truly "RD2 Joe Muharsky" water skiing behind PCF 94 March 1969. Pictured is signed by Senator John Kerry who was a LTJG in Coastal Division 11.
.......into the shooting war in the rivers of the Mekong Delta.
Oooooops.
As Robert Burns once wrote, "The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry."
Kerry signed up for being OIC of his own water skiing boat and here he was in the middle of a friggin war!!
What does Kerry do now after he has gone from glorified water skier straight into deep kim-chee?
Well, Kerry then proceeds to rack up three Purple Hearts for "injuries" that kept him off duty for a grand total of.....drum roll, please..... two days of duty by his own admission and zero days according to his swift boat squadron C.O.
Kerry then sea-lawyered himself out of combat after only four months and requested a transfer as an "Admiral's aide", preferably in "Boston, New York or Washington".
Boston Globe, 6/16/2003: ......... He requested and was granted a transfer out of Vietnam six months before his combat tour was slated to end on the grounds that he had earned three Purple Hearts. None of his wounds was disabling; he said one cost him two days of service and the other two did not lead to any absence. .........The bottom line is that Kerry could have remained but he chose to seek an early transfer.
When the Boston Globe asked Kerry to give permission for the release of his Navy medical records so that the Boston Globe could document what sort of injuries earned Kerry three Purple Hearts and a ticket out of combat after 4 months.........Kerry refused.
Every decision and/or request John F. Kerry ever made; from First Division Officer to swift boat OIC; from swift boat OIC to early termination of his combat tour; from early termination of his combat tour to Admiral's aide; from Admiral's aide to early discharge from active duty; from early discharge from active duty to politically-popular-in-Massachusets American-G.I.'s-are-war-criminals anti-war protestor.....
Every decision and/or request John F. Kerry ever made in his Navy career was made to further the comfort, safety and political ambitions of John F. Kerry.
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posted on
04/26/2004 10:44:14 PM PDT
by
Polybius
To: Texas Eagle
..."for" and "against" interchangeably.All depends on the meaning of "meaning." You see, when he tossed his medals, that is, his ribbons, that is, somebody else's medals, he was an admitted war criminal, that is, war hero. Clear?
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posted on
04/26/2004 10:45:58 PM PDT
by
Bonaparte
To: Bonaparte
All depends on the meaning of "meaning." You see, when he tossed his medals, that is, his ribbons, that is, somebody else's medals, he was an admitted war criminal, that is, war hero. Clear?Not really. Is he proud that he's a war criminal and ashamed that he's a war hero or is he proud that he's a war.....wait a minute....let me start over......is he proud that he's ashamed.....no, wait.......ahhhhhhh....ferget it.
To: kattracks
If Kerry were honest he would say he threw medals /ribbons away because he didn't have a handy US flag to burn.
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posted on
04/26/2004 10:56:14 PM PDT
by
oyez
(Fortune favors the bold.)
To: KillBill
Kerry applied for a duplicate medal sometime while John Lehman was the Secretary of the Navy (1981 through 1987). There is no other explanation for why his citation is signed by Lehman. This is from the military records released by the Kerry campaign.
So the question is... if you needed a replacement medal, Senator, what happened to the original?
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:12:59 PM PDT
by
bootyist-monk
(<--------------------- Republican Attack Machine)
To: KillBill
How fitting: Phony medals, phony politics, phony face. lol
John Kerry: One can short of Dukakis.
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:15:47 PM PDT
by
Darheel
(Visit the strange and wonderful.)
To: kattracks
John F*ckin' can't level with the American people and come clean about his past. That's why it keeps being out there in public view, like an unexploded grenade dangling at the end of his campaign wagon. Will it take the wheels of his candidacy? We'll see.
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:16:48 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: bjcintennessee
ping
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:19:33 PM PDT
by
ImaTexan
To: kattracks; hole_n_one; onyx; nopardons; mystery-ak; Howlin
For years, he's maintained that he threw away his ribbons and the medals of another soldier while his medals were in safekeeping at home that day to protest the Vietnam War. But in a newly unearthed 1971 television interview, Mr. Kerry said he threw his medals away.
hmmmmm ... What is this medal he's wearing?
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:31:08 PM PDT
by
Mo1
(Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
To: kattracks
Added Mr. Gillespie: "I don't think it's bothersome to people that John Kerry thinks he's very smart. That's fine. I think what's bothersome is he thinks the rest of us are so stupid." LOL. Well said, Mr. Gillespie.
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:32:04 PM PDT
by
Hugin
To: goldstategop
Kerry is clearly ..
Lion .. Lying !
Stay safe !
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:40:38 PM PDT
by
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
To: kattracks
Threw his medals away, but the only thing missing is his "mettle". hic
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posted on
04/27/2004 12:47:43 AM PDT
by
Waco
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