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JPD cracking down on sex toy sales (Their title not mine)
The Clarion Ledger ^ | April 14, 2004 | By Jacob Bennett

Posted on 04/14/2004 6:30:36 AM PDT by WKB

High court recently upheld ban; merchants decry restrictions

Pointing to an empty wall where sex toys were once displayed, the Adult Video and Bookstore clerk's voice rose.

"They about put us out of business," she said, declining to give her name. "How are they going to tell a man what to do in the privacy of his own home?"

Jackson police have ordered Adult Video and Bookstore, Terry Road Book Store and Heritage Video Inc. to remove their sex toys. The city is cracking down after the state Supreme Court last month upheld a state law that bans the sale of sex toys.

The law defines as illegal any device used primarily for stimulation of human genitalia. The fine is $500.

A Terry Road Book Store employee didn't want to discuss the crackdown.

"They said to take them down. I took them down," she said, declining to give her name.

Adult Video and Bookstore employees said they were outraged at restrictions on what they can and cannot sell. "I don't think it's right," one clerk said. "Sex is in every home in the world."

A co-worker agreed. "We don't push it on anybody."

Adam and Eve and ZJ Gifts LLC, the Memphis-based owner of Christal's chain of adult stores, sued the state of Mississippi in 2001, contending the state law thwarted the rights of customers to purchase adult toys.

Last month, the state Supreme Court ruled there is no fundamental right of access to buy sexual devices. Advertising of the sexual devices also is not protected by the right to free speech, the court ruled.

Doctors and psychologists, however, may prescribe sexual devices for their patients, the court said.

Jackson police hadn't enforced the law in a few years because it was on appeal, Jackson police Sgt. William Gladney said.

The ordinance divides Mississippians.

"I think it's a good law," said Paula Nevels, 50, of Vicksburg. "I think (sex toy use) leads to pornography and that leads to our children being exploited. I think a lot of it is perverted, anyway."

Calvin Miner, 27, of Jackson said he doesn't see what is the big deal.

"It really doesn't matter to me, but I don't think they should ban it," Miner said. "Everybody has their own preferences. It's your own choice."

People who own sex toys shouldn't worry, Gladney said. "We're not going into people's houses," he said.

But it is illegal to have sex toy parties where devices are sold from home, Gladney said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; busybodiesatwork; nothingbettertodo; privacy
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To: robertpaulsen
If this were a federal law, I would have a problem with it. But if the citizens of a state (or county, or city, or community) want to constitutionally ban sex toys (or strip clubs, or adult bookstores, or prostitution), that's their business.

It is constitutional, but stupid.

21 posted on 04/14/2004 9:08:16 AM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: Lockbar
From my cold, dead....hands?
22 posted on 04/14/2004 9:11:16 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack ("We deal in hard calibers and hot lead." - Roland Deschaines)
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To: WKB
The law defines as illegal any device used primarily for stimulation of human genitalia.

I swear, officer! It's a rubber model rocket!

23 posted on 04/14/2004 9:11:32 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Hands are next...
24 posted on 04/14/2004 9:14:30 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: antiRepublicrat
I intentionally added "constitutional". Furthermore, I intentionally put it in italics so it couldn't be missed.

But miss it you did.

I believe that a state banning PETA, hunting, Greenpeace, or logging might find themselves in a constitutional bind. (Thank you for not saying, "What if a state wanted slavery?")

"even though their actions do no direct harm"

(Picture me holding my right arm, fully extended over my head, hand bent at the wrist. Got that picture? Good.)

I have had it up to here with this "no direct harm" bull$hit. Who says our laws must be written to cover "direct harm" only? Why is this now the standard that must be met? Since friggin' when?

There is such a thing as indirect harm. There is such a thing as societal standards. There is such a thing as creating and maintaining an environment in which to raise the next generation.

Legislating morality? Sure it is. ALL of our laws legislate morality. If the majority of the people of a state wish to write a constitutional law that excludes something they believe causes indirect harm, or that is against their standards, or interferes with the raising of children, why can't they?

This article should be a dog-bites-man non-issue.

25 posted on 04/14/2004 9:38:41 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: ThinkDifferent
Someone once said, "Bad law is not necessarily unconstitutional".

And if they didn't, they should have.

26 posted on 04/14/2004 9:42:45 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
I intentionally added "constitutional".

Yes, and you won't get much argument that a state *can* pass a law like this. The question is, *should* they? It appears that you think it's just fine for a state to regulate the private sex lives of consenting adults. This does not put you on the side of individual freedom and limited government.

27 posted on 04/14/2004 9:48:31 AM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: LexBaird
"I swear, officer! It's a rubber model rocket!"

Like this one?

Blast off! Which reminds me of the scene from the movie "Top Secret where they discuss the guy that plugs the U.S. 120 volt "device" into the European 220 volt?

28 posted on 04/14/2004 9:54:22 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: LexBaird
I hope this works.

Top Secret

29 posted on 04/14/2004 10:05:11 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: All
Next I suppose they will forbid the sale of banannas, cucumbers and sausages.
Possibly after that they will enact a law forcing people to wear mittens at all times.
30 posted on 04/14/2004 10:11:54 AM PDT by 76834
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To: ThinkDifferent
"you think it's just fine for a state to regulate the private sex lives of consenting adults."

WHAT?? Where did you come up with this little ditty? One, this isn't about me, this is about the people of the state of Mississippi and what they want. Two, who's regulating the "private sex lives of consenting adults"? The law bans the public sales of certain products. Period.

"This does not put you on the side of individual freedom and limited government."

Is that what you call it? Individual freedom? I can almost hear the patriotic music in the background.

Well, it appears that the citizens of the state of Mississippi call it selfish, self-centered, individualistic, immoral, and hedonistic behavior that goes against the way they wish to live.

How dare they decide how they want to live!

31 posted on 04/14/2004 10:33:08 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: WKB
Well, I know -I- feel safer. Sheesh.
32 posted on 04/14/2004 10:39:11 AM PDT by TheBigB ("You know, beer and porn really DO make the shift go faster." - Tom Servo)
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To: robertpaulsen
There is such a thing as indirect harm.

We don't even need direct harm these days to ban something that's unpopular. Look at the anti-smoking agenda. Societal standards and indirect harm are only smokescreens for the true agenda of people using the government to force others to act and believe just as they do.

You completely missed the PETA and Greenpeace points. This woman and other "conservative" activists are exactly like those liberal organizations. They state something does harm with no proof, then seek to stop it using their influence on the government. The only difference between them is what they want banned.

33 posted on 04/14/2004 10:39:31 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: WKB
Doctors who specialize in the treatment of "tennis elbow" should be ecstatic over this.
34 posted on 04/14/2004 10:52:53 AM PDT by freedox
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To: Phantom Lord
I cannot believe the court's time was wasted on this....gees......

(It's obvious Ms. Nevels has not had sex since the 70's...)

35 posted on 04/14/2004 10:57:51 AM PDT by BossLady (Your biography becomes your biology.......)
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To: robertpaulsen; WKB

Damn that's funny.
"Big Bertha"?
Why the female name on such a magnificent thang?
LOL-LOL-LOL
36 posted on 04/14/2004 10:58:05 AM PDT by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold)
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To: WKB
Honnnnnnnnesssssssssttttttttttt Offffffffficcccccerrrrrr, it'ssssssss jjjjjjjjussssssstttttttt a celllllll-phonnnnnnnne in mmmmmmmmy pppppppoccccccckettttttttttt...
37 posted on 04/14/2004 10:58:14 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: WKB
In Ol' Miss, Duracell sales will plummet.
38 posted on 04/14/2004 11:01:26 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Artist Formerly Known as mikeb704.)
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To: WKB
Didn't know there were so many Ole Miss grads on the MSSC. :^)
39 posted on 04/14/2004 11:06:09 AM PDT by TheBigB ("You know, beer and porn really DO make the shift go faster." - Tom Servo)
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To: FreedomAvatar
And those cheap battery spin tooth bushes? ;)
40 posted on 04/14/2004 11:06:45 AM PDT by CathyRyan
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