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Iraq Council discusses deal to end Shi'ite violence (by Not Prosecuting Al-Sadr!)
reuters ^ | 4/7/04 | Reuters

Posted on 04/07/2004 9:07:18 AM PDT by Mark Felton

BAGHDAD, April 7 (Reuters) - Iraq's U.S.-installed Governing Council has discussed a proposal not to prosecute the rebel cleric Moqtada al-Sadr for murder if he agrees to halt a Shi'ite uprising, council members said on Wednesday.

They told Reuters after meeting to discuss the violence sweeping Iraq that using more force against the young cleric and his followers could lead to more civilian casualties and bolster support for him.

"Iraq could refrain from pursuing the arrest warrant in return for Moqtada renouncing violence," said one Shi'ite council member, who was speaking on condition of anonymity.

"The situation would be akin to Lebanon's Subhi al-Tufaili, who is contained," he said, referring to the ex-Lebanese Hizbollah Shi'ite guerrilla group leader.

Tufaili is wanted for allegedly killing Lebanese soldiers and trying to assassinate a former Lebanese president years ago, but he roams the Bekaa Valley freely while staying away from vocal politics.

An arrest warrant is out for Sadr in connection with the killing of another cleric who returned from exile a year ago.

The murder of Sayyed Abdel Majid al-Khoei, the son of the late Grand Ayatollah Abu al-Qassem al-Khoei, sparked fears of violent divisions among Iraq's Shi'ite leadership.

Sadr has denied involvement in Khoei's murder. The arrest warrant was issued months ago but was only announced after his followers clashed with U.S. forces last week. The U.S. military says he will be arrested.

UPRISING

The cleric's followers have fought with occupation forces in the southern cities of Nassiriya, Amara, Kut, Kerbala and Najaf, vowing to carry on a revolt that has killed over 130 people since Sunday.

The Governing Council issued a statement denouncing the violence, but was considering taking a proactive stance to end the crisis, council sources said.

"The members will not sign on the plan and no delegation will go see Moqtada unless we are sure he can be contained," said an official with close links to the 25-member council.

"Using more force against him will not work and the Americans know this. Many more will die and even more radical elements could emerge if he is killed," he said.

Council members said previous attempts to integrate Sadr into the U.S.-led political process had failed.

They said a Governing Council delegation secretly met Sadr last year after his supporters fought in Kerbala with followers of Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, regarded as the country's most influential Shi'ite cleric.

Sadr then agreed not to resort to violence but insisted the United States should withdraw its occupation forces from Iraq, they added.

Moderate Shi'ite leaders such as Sistani are seen as wary of being drawn into the conflict. Police in the seminary city of Najaf have allowed Sadr's followers to occupy their stations, and Sistani's followers let them effectively take over the city.

"There is not much Shi'ite holy men like Sistani can do," the council official said. "They are men of religion, not interior ministers."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alsadr; appeasement; appeasers; council; igc; iraq; iraqcouncil; southwestasia
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To: Mark Felton
This is known as the Spanish option.
21 posted on 04/07/2004 9:23:19 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Mark Felton
"Using more force against him will not work and the Americans know this. Many more will die and even more radical elements could emerge if he is killed," he said.

No, the Americans DON'T know this. In fact, we believe the exact opposite is true.

However, we also understand the need for CYA on the part of Iraqi politicians. They will need "cover" if we cut and run. (John Kerry, Teddy Kennedy, etc., add fuel to this fear with their treasonous comments.)

Council members said previous attempts to integrate Sadr into the U.S.-led political process had failed.

THAT part we believe.

22 posted on 04/07/2004 9:23:25 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: Mark Felton
The best way to solve this is to KILL HIM!!
23 posted on 04/07/2004 9:23:56 AM PDT by LADY J
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To: laconic
What do you mean? We liberated them. "Iraqis will govern Iraqis," as they say. We'll serve merely as the armed forces of Iraq to make sure the people do what the government tells them to do. We won't have any political control. We've told them we don't want it.
24 posted on 04/07/2004 9:25:23 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: samadams2000
Because we mistakenly assume that our adversary is as rational as we are, and is as interested as we are in a long-term solution that helps the most people. Probably the most common mistake in intelligence--assuming that the other side shares the same values/beliefs/strategies as you do.
25 posted on 04/07/2004 9:25:30 AM PDT by johnfrink
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To: Filibuster_60
view the Governing Council as a bunch of US puppets.

And the real government-- which will write the real constitution-- will care even less about our wishes than the puppet government.

26 posted on 04/07/2004 9:27:14 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
Did anyone explain how he made it from Sadr City to Najaf after we'd declared him an outlaw?
27 posted on 04/07/2004 9:30:42 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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To: Mark Felton
I, too, think it's a bad idea. But I think the article has a familiar Reuter's spin to it.

Notice in the first paragraph, they "discussed a proposal" and in the second, the idea of not prosecuting is being leaked by ONE Shiite, who wanted to remain anonymous.

And these two paragraphs seem contradictory. They want him contained, but no force used against him, HUH???

"The members will not sign on the plan and no delegation will go see Moqtada unless we are sure he can be contained," said an official with close links to the 25-member council.

"Using more force against him will not work and the Americans know this. Many more will die and even more radical elements could emerge if he is killed," he said.

28 posted on 04/07/2004 9:31:07 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Mark Felton
Seeing that it is known he will refuse the deal, this isn't a bad move.
29 posted on 04/07/2004 9:32:40 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Mark Felton
They're not IN-CHARGE yet. We are, I doubt we'll go along with that stupid decision.

The guy is a dead man.

30 posted on 04/07/2004 9:33:25 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Mark Felton
Some of us predicted that this war/nation-building occupation would turn out to be a disaster rife with unintended consquences.
31 posted on 04/07/2004 9:33:42 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Mark Felton
If we turn over power to those people, we fought in vain.
32 posted on 04/07/2004 9:37:39 AM PDT by doug9732
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To: dawn53
yes, you're likely right. It is probably Reuters anti-American spin.
33 posted on 04/07/2004 9:39:25 AM PDT by Mark Felton (Perfection is an imperfect concept.)
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To: cripplecreek
I was thinking the same thing
34 posted on 04/07/2004 9:39:37 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: Mark Felton
(by Not Prosecuting Al-Sadr!)

fat chance ... no truce with terrorists ... I hope this does not come to pass ...
35 posted on 04/07/2004 9:40:48 AM PDT by Bobby777
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Well, if this is the type of government they produce, I don't want any part of it.
36 posted on 04/07/2004 9:41:13 AM PDT by laconic
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To: Captain Kirk
Some of us predicted that this war/nation-building occupation would turn out to be a disaster rife with unintended consquences.

Unintended consequences are what makes things interesting. There are always unintended consequences - Some can be "disasterous", some can be beneficial. Let's just see what happens.

37 posted on 04/07/2004 9:42:53 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: mewzilla
"Not a good way to start off your nation. Bribing an alleged murderer with a Get Out Of Jail Free card..."

We turned out OK.

We bribed the Barbary Pirates for our first 12 years, we made deals with renegade indians who'd murdered frontiermen, and then there was the famous deal with LaFitte in the War of 1812.

I doubt if this proposal is going anywhere though, despite Reuters high hopes.

38 posted on 04/07/2004 9:43:37 AM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: Mark Felton
The message from the Governing Council appears to be: Sadr stop the uprising (violence); then, you will be free to roam about Iraq building your Mahdi Army and when the US pulls out you can run the show! And, I don't trust this Sistani (sp?) either - this looks like Shi'te good cop bad cop arrangement.
39 posted on 04/07/2004 9:44:47 AM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (aut viam inveniam aut faciam)
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To: Mark Felton
Neville Chamberlain III for Iraqi President!!!
40 posted on 04/07/2004 9:51:41 AM PDT by montag813
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