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Driving Down Unknown Roads(The Feminization Of America)
www.fredoneverything.net ^ | 3/29/2004 | Fred Reed

Posted on 04/02/2004 3:05:54 PM PST by teldon30

In the United States women are, I think for the first time in history, gaining real power. Often nations have had queens, heiresses, and female aristocrats. These do not amount to much. Today women occupy positions of genuine authority in fields that matter, as for example publishing, journalism, and academia. They control education through high school. Politicians scramble for their votes. They control the divorce courts and usually get their way with things that matter to them.

If this is not unprecedented, I do not know of the precedent. What will be the consequences?

Men have controlled the world through most of history so we know what they do: build things, break things, invent things, compete with each other fiercely and often pointlessly, and fight endless wars that seem to them justifiable at the time but that, seen from afar, are just what males do. The unanswered question is what women would, or will, do. How will their increasing influence reshape the polity?

Women and men want very different things and therefore very different worlds. Men want sex, freedom, and adventure; women want security, pleasantness, and someone to care about (or for)them. Both like power. Men use it to conquer their neighbors whether in business or war, women to impose security and pleasantness.

I do not suggest that the instinctive behavior of women is necessarily bad, nor that of men necessarily good. I do suggest that that the effects will be profound, probably irreversible, and not necessarily entirely to the liking of either sex. The question may be whether one fears most being conquered or being nicened to death.

Consider what is called the Nanny State by men, who feel smothered by it, but is accepted if not supported by women, who see it as protective and caring. (Yes, I know that there are exceptions and degrees in all of this, and no, I don’t have polling data.) Note that women are much more concerned than are men about health and well-being. Women worry about second-hand smoke, outlawing guns, lowering the allowable blood-alcohol levels for drivers, making little boys wear helmets while riding bicycles, and outlawing such forms of violence as dodge ball or the use of plastic ray guns. Much of this is demonstrably irrational, but that is the nature of instincts. (Neither is the male tendency to form armed bands and attack anyone within reach a pinnacle of reason.)

The implications of female influence for freedom, at least as men understand the word, are not good. Women will accept restrictions on their behavior if in doing so they feel more secure. They have less need of freedom, which is not particularly important in living a secure, orderly, routine, and comfortable life. They tend not to see political correctness as irritating, but as keeping people from saying unpleasant things.

The growing feminizaton accounts for much of the decline in the schools. The hostility to competition of any sort is an expression of the female desire for pleasantness; competition is a mild form of combat, by which men are attracted and women repelled. The emphasis on how children feel about each other instead of on what they learn is profoundly female (as for that matter is the associated fascination with psychotherapy). The drugging of male schoolchildren into passivity is the imposition of pleasantness by chemical means. Little boys are not nice, but fidgety wild men writ small who, bored out of their skulls, tend to rowdiness. They are also hard for the average woman to control and, since male teachers are absent, gelded, or terrified of litigious parents, expulsion and resort to the police fill the void. The oft-repeated suspension of boys for drawing soldiers or playing space war is, methinks, a quietly hysterical attempt to assuage formless insecurity.

The change in marriage and the deterioration of the family are likewise the results of the growth of political power of women. Whether this is good or bad remains to be seen, but it is assuredly happening. Divorce became common because women wanted to get out of unsatisfactory marriages. In divorce women usually want the children, and have the clout to get them. But someone has to feed the young. Thus the vindictive pursuit of divorced fathers who won’t or can’t pay child support. And thus the rise of the government as de facto father to provide welfare, tax breaks, daycare, and otherwise behave as a virtual husband.

When women entered a male workplace, they found that they didn’t much like it. Men told off-color jokes, looked at protuberant body parts, engaged in rough verbal sparring as a form of social interaction, and behaved in accord with rules that women didn’t and don’t understand. Women had the influence to change things, and did. Laws grew like kudzu to ban sexual harassment, whether real or imagined. Affirmative action, in addition to being a naked power grab, avoids competition and therefore making the losers feel bad. It degrades the performance of organizations, sometimes seriously, but performance is a preoccupation of males.

Men are capable of malignant government, whether authoritarian or totalitarian, as witness North Korea or the Russia of Stalin. I don’t know whether women would behave as badly if they had the power. (I’d guess not.) But women have their own totalitarian tendencies. They will if allowed impose a seamless tyranny of suffocating safety, social control, and political propriety. Men are happy for men to be men and women to be women; women want us all to be women.

The United States becomes daily more a woman’s world: comfortable, safe, with few outlets for a man’s desire for risk. The America of wild empty country, of guns and fishing and hunting, of physical labor and hot rods and schoolyard fights, has turned gradually into a land of shopping malls and sensible cars and bureaucracy. Risk is now mostly artificial and not very risky. There is skydiving and scuba and you can still find places to go fast on motorcycles, but it gets harder. Jobs increasingly require the feminine virtues of patience, accommodation to routine, and subordination of performance to civility. Just about everything that once defined masculinity is now denounced as “macho,” a hostile word embodying the female incomprehension of men.

A case can be made that a feminized world would (or will) be preferable to a masculine. Perhaps. It is males who bomb cities and shoot people in Seven-Elevens. Yet the experiment has not been made. I suspect we will have the worst of both worlds: a nation in which men at the top engage in the usual wars and, a step below, women impose inutterable boredom.


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To: TheSpottedOwl
Hey Roger, have you seen this yet?

Actually, they don't have control of divorce courts. Divorce courts are controlled by organized crime and mostly manipulated by men who are making billions of dollars stealing money from children and taxpayers. The gender wars and "for the children" was their cover.

Don't you just hate it when someone's will to express an opinion is so much greater than their effort to understand what they're talking about?

But anyway -- the answer to what will women do with power is that they will create and maintain conflict and maximize overhead. That's not a prediction. Contrary to the view of the author of the article, the experiment has been run and the results are already in.
121 posted on 04/04/2004 8:17:02 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
But anyway -- the answer to what will women do with power is that they will create and maintain conflict and maximize overhead. That's not a prediction. Contrary to the view of the author of the article, the experiment has been run and the results are already in.

One word....Hillary. Fred does make a good point about boys being forced to be something that they aren't.

122 posted on 04/04/2004 12:32:49 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: Nick Danger
I recently served jury duty at the county level. I swear I did not see one male face among the courthouse administrators, the lawyers, and the judges I came into contact with on that one day of service. It was quite a sobering revelation.
123 posted on 04/05/2004 8:52:41 AM PDT by Way2Serious
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To: Lorianne
Our entire nation is founded on the principle of INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS.

Exactly.

This is what Fred wants too. The right to live one's life without the Nanny State telling you that guns are too dangerous for regular people to own, that you shouldn't smoke or drink, that competition is bad and affirmative action should make sure nobody loses (except nasty white males).

So where, exactly and specificly, do you disagree with Fred?

124 posted on 04/05/2004 6:21:19 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
I agree with Fred about these items. Many women and some feminists don't want the nanny state either. I just think he is going about getting what he wants in an infantile and intellectually dishonest way.

For one thing there are just as many liberal men who support the "nanny state".

Apparently Fred doesn't realize that there are many women who want "power" just as much as he does. If he is intellectually honest about it, Fred would acknowledge that and fight on the same playing field (instead of retreating to Mexico). Presumably if women today are "gaining power" that means that previously they did not have it. Under our system of government, if you can convince enough people to your POV, then you gain political "power". If you can't, you lose political "power". To whine against them gaining power, when you could be out "gaining power" for your POV, is just ... well whining.

That's why I said "sour grapes". If you find yourself out of power ... cut and run (after whining, citing lies about who is drugging children, and finding a convenient scapegoat). Apparently this is Fred's tactic. Not very manly.

Also, he employs the "victim" ideology he decries in others. (Apparently if men won't sign up to be teachers, it's because they are too afraid of what others may say about them. It's as if the schoolyard has a bunch of scarecrows that men won't brave).

Also, he prioritizes male and female attributes (which he attributes incorrectly to begin with) as being superior and inferior. But he decries it if some women do this same thing! Hypocrisy looks bad on anyone but even worse on a supposedly "manly" man.

He also diminishes people he doesn't agree with by suggesting they have no right to enter the political fray .... that's so lame and undemocratic. To live in a democracy you have to put up with a lot #@&$ that other people believe in ... and hammer out compromises. If you don't have the stomach for that ... I guess you move to Mexico or someplace.

Other than all that, I agree with Fred about the nanny state (as do many conservative women).

125 posted on 04/05/2004 6:58:56 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: SauronOfMordor
Also I forgot to mention that many Conservative men shoot themselves in the foot by discrediting Conservative women and jumping on the "male superiority" bandwagon. This just sends more women hovering in the middle (whose numbers are legion) over to the other side.

You've heard plenty from these men here at right here at FR, right here on this very thread. If any one group is more to blame for liberal women "gaining power" it is these Conservative men, who don't support their own.

Fred incites these men, he therefore indirectly butresses liberal conservative values.
126 posted on 04/05/2004 7:05:59 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Correction: Fred incites these men, he therefore indirectly butresses liberal values.
127 posted on 04/05/2004 7:07:30 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Good post!!

There are inherent differences between males and females and those inherent differences cannot be significantly altered over any meaningful period of time. What does change more quickly are the ways in which we try to live with one another. Those changes can influence our behavior for a time, but they don't really change us. I think we just keep experimenting and when certain things don't seem to be working right, we try something new.

None of these experiments are irreversible, though - certainly nothing to leave the country over. ;-)

128 posted on 04/05/2004 7:13:41 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Lorianne
Lorainne, Lorainne, where to start...

Wait a second, the only time I HAVE to stick out the discussion with a woman even though she is not understanding logic is with my wife. It matters there and is a respect issue.

It's just not worth it here. You've worn me down. Carry on, and have fun.
129 posted on 04/05/2004 7:23:35 PM PDT by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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I have been in data processing for over 20 years. Usually there were at least as many women as men. Well I am now in data processing, but as a sales engineer. I was at a staff meeting last week and suddenly realized why I actually enjoy the meetings: The entire staff is male.

The freedom to speak and use logic and get to the point is priceless. The amount of REAL communication and work accomplished at these meetings is like nothing I have ever experienced.

Unfortunately, when we get to the client site, I have to go into "positive strokes" mode with all the women we deal with.

Don't get me wrong, as I've said before, men are Hummers and women are Ferrari's. Each has its strengths and are a glory in thier "place."

And no,I don't mean barefoot and pregnant!

And yes, I am generalizing.

To put it bluntly, women live primarily off intuition/emotion and men primarily off logic/reason. And NEITHER is infallible.

130 posted on 04/05/2004 7:30:29 PM PDT by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: RobRoy
Carry on, and have fun. Well gee thanks. I will! :) You joining Fred in Mexico? If so, have a Margarita on me.
131 posted on 04/05/2004 7:31:18 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
My wife and I are actually thinking about it. We are learning Spanish for just that reason.

Ah freedom. Risky? You bet. Life - real life - is risk.

I'd rather be a Gazzelle in the dangerous open country of Africa than a Gazzelle preserved safely in an american zoo.

'Course, that's just me.
132 posted on 04/05/2004 7:37:57 PM PDT by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: RobRoy
You are generalizing. I don't agree with your specific points generalizing men or women ... however, I do agree that men and women are different in many ways. Delightfully so.

And the good thing is, we are under no obligation to be the same! None whatsoever! And we really don't need our separate planets.

This is such happy news I don't know why anyone would complain about men or women ever again. But, alas, there are always some curmudgeons around to whine and wimper about "the differences".

This cormudgeonly attitude has been around at least since Henry Higgins warbled about why women can't be more like men. (Which makes you wonder about ole Henry's true persuasion, if you know what I mean.)
133 posted on 04/05/2004 7:38:55 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
I SAID I was generalizing. Just like I am generalizing when I say men are taller than women, or women have bigger breasts than men.

If you get my drift...
134 posted on 04/05/2004 7:42:31 PM PDT by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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