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Rebels attack U.S. convoy outside Fallujah, witnesses said
AP ^ | 1 April 2004 | Unknown

Posted on 04/01/2004 12:46:38 AM PST by Cap Huff

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:11:53 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

FALLUJAH, Iraq (AP) Insurgents attacked a U.S. military convoy near Fallujah on Thursday and a Humvee vehicle was burned, witnesses said.

It was not clear if there were any casualties. U.S. officials in Baghdad said they could not confirm the attack.


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To: FreedomPoster
"There is a significant component of the Iraqi population that does not know they were beaten."

Or liberated, apparently.

41 posted on 04/01/2004 4:35:53 AM PST by Adder
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To: CurlyBill
We are so easy to provoke, and our enemies, both foreign and domestic, have our number.
42 posted on 04/01/2004 4:40:41 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (TF160 was about terror.Delta was about terror.The Seals were about Terror!- xzins w/TF160-Reagan yrs)
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To: All
In googling the company and the attack location I came up with this rather long article that is an interview with a Blackwater employee who has been working around Fallujah.

Greene County Native Providing Security For Americans In Iraq

By: By BILL JONES/Staff Writer Source: The Greeneville Sun 03-30-2004

Greene County native David Randolph isn’t a soldier, but he’s taking the same risks as U.S. soldiers and Marines in Iraq while he provides security for American contractors and high-ranking military officers.

Randolph, 33, a 1988 graduate of Chuckey-Doak High School, said during a Monday afternoon satellite telephone call from Iraq, that since early January he has been working in central Iraq as an “independent contractor” for a private security company called Blackwater USA.

Randolph, who is the son of Renda Scott and James “Buddy” Randolph, a Greene County Sheriff’s Department detective sergeant, said he was recruited by North Carolina-based Blackwater USA last December and left employment with the Horry County, S.C., Police Department to join the security firm.

A former U.S. Marine who helped protect President George H. W. Bush at Camp David, Md., in the early 1990s, Randolph said he left the Horry County Police Department, where he was working as a K-9 officer in the narcotics unit, because he could earn “substantially” more money working for Blackwater USA in Iraq.

Randolph, who said he organized the Conway, S.C., Police Department’s SWAT team several years ago, also has spent 10 years in the South Carolina National Guard. He holds the rank of 1st lieutenant in that reserve military component.

After about a month of intensive training, Randolph said, he and two other former Horry County, S.C., police officers traveled in early January to Iraq by way of Kuwait. Since January, he said, he has been in charge of a detachment of “more than 20” Blackwater security personnel who are based near the small Iraqi city of Fallujah.

Randolph described Fallujah, which he said is probably smaller than Greeneville, as “the toughest town in Iraq.”

Prior to last year’s U.S. invasion that toppled Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, Randolph said, even Saddam feared to travel to Fallujah.

“It was run by a group sort of like the mafia,” he said. “He (Saddam) pretty much left the people who ran the city alone.”

Unfortunately, he said, that meant that “a few people lived like kings” and the rest of the population lived meagerly.

Since the arrival of U.S. forces in the area last year, Randolph said, the people who formerly enjoyed power have seen their privileges curtailed.

“They’re not happy about that, and they’re carrying out attacks as a result,” he said.

Fallujah, which is west of Baghdad, is located “at one corner” of the “Sunni Triangle,” the area mostly west and north of Baghdad, Iraq’s capital, where attacks on U.S. forces have been numerous since last year.

Randolph said the Blackwater USA personnel he supervises provide security for high-ranking U.S. military officers, U.S. State Department officials and employees of U.S. contractors involved in rebuilding the war-torn county’s infrastructure.

Frequently Escort Convoys

As part of their security operations, Randolph said, Blackwater USA personnel escort convoys from place to place along central Iraq’s dangerous roads.

In carrying out their convoy-protection duties, Randolph said, Blackwater employees frequently engage in gunfire with insurgents, who attempt to use roadside bombs, which the military calls improvised explosive devices (IED), and other arms to destroy vehicles and kill as many Americans as possible.

“You have to be vigilant all the time on the road,” he said, noting that anything that looks out of place, such as a pile of dirt by the roadside, can hide an IED. But IEDs aren’t the only worry for those moving about in convoys, according to Randolph.

“I think I’ve been fired on by every kind of weapon there is except an aircraft,” Randolph said.

He added that the insurgents doing many of the attacks in and around Fallujah often have turned out to be natives of Jordan, Iran, Syria, and of the embattled Russian-controlled area of Chechnya.

Blackwater USA personnel have been able to fend off most attacks by using tactics that make it difficult, if not impossible, for attackers to damage more than one vehicle at a time.

“They haven’t been very successful against us,” he said, “But they’re determined and keep trying.”

He also said that insurgents constantly try to draw Blackwater USA personnel and U.S. military forces into ambushes.

“They try to disable a vehicle and then attack you with small-arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades when you dismount,” he said.

He said Blackwater USA personnel and their U.S. military counterparts counter the ambush threat by positioning their vehicles to cover each other and by avoiding attempts to draw them into traps.

During a Monday afternoon telephone call from the Blackwater USA compound in the desert outside Fallujah where it was 9:30 p.m., Randolph said he and other Blackwater USA personnel “sleep whenever we can.”

Attacked Many Nights

He said that their compound is attacked on many nights by mortar and rocket fire. Asked if the compound had good bunkers in case of such attacks, Randolph said that although there were bunkers, “We depend on their inaccuracy.”

He explained that the mortar and rocket fire unleased by the insurgents had been highly inaccurate for the most part. “After you’ve been here for awhile, you can judge pretty well when you’re in danger.”

After repeatedly failing in attacks on Blackwater USA personnel, Randolph said, insurgents in the Fallujah area recently have began focusing their attacks on Iraqis who drive vehicles that bring food, water and other supplies to Blackwater USA-protected work sites.

“We’ve lost three water truck drivers in the last week,” he said, noting that the Iraqi truck drivers are just trying to earn a living and improve their families’ lives. The former South Carolina police officer

said he remains convinced that the casualties the United States has suffered in Iraq over the last year have been “worth the sacrifice.”

He said that whenever he sees Iraqi children smile and wave as he passes, his belief that U.S. efforts to free the Iraqi population from tyranny is reinforced.

“Now they (the children) will have a future, not just a dead end,” he said.

Telephones Wife Weekly

Randolph said he tries to telephone his wife, Susie, and the couple’s four young children at least once a week to reassure them that he is safe. He noted that he has not yet seen his youngest son, who was born after he went to Iraq in January.

Randolph and his wife also are the parents of a 4-year-old daughter and a 2-year-old son and twin daughter.

Being separated from his wife and children is difficult, Randolph said, noting that he hopes to return to his home near Myrtle Beach, S.C., by August.

After taking some time off, he said, he likely will accept other international security assignments with Blackwater USA.

In the meantime, Randolph said, he would like to receive electronic mail messages from Greene County residents.

43 posted on 04/01/2004 4:43:15 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Take a look at my post 43. There is some interesting perspective here. The article is from BEFORE the attack yesterday. I would hope that the newspaper would take the article down if the man interviewed was one of the casualties.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1109141/posts?page=43#43
44 posted on 04/01/2004 4:46:09 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff
Fallujah and other areas within the Sunni Triangle should be given what they want, a lawless block of land separate. The other two ethenic groups should be given 1/3 of Iraq proper and separated in two States sharing the oil wealth. Fallujah should be given a reduced annunity held by the coalation to be handed over once they form a government for their area free from terrorism (a 25% penality should be imposed on their 1/3 of the oil wealth). Incentives to conform .... Food distribution (medicine & essentials) should be contingent upon recognized representatives coming out of the city with conveyence from their own resources to carry it back). We could tie the hands of the insurgents in the eyes of their own people.

The very reason this did not work between the Pali's and Israel is because of the EU/Saddam types who provided incentives to oppose reason.

45 posted on 04/01/2004 4:46:56 AM PST by Jumper
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To: samtheman
I hate to say this, but I agree with Clark's statement last night. They are testing us; if we do not respond with force, they will see it as weakness and escalate the violence.
46 posted on 04/01/2004 4:51:24 AM PST by Jack of Diamonds
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To: Cap Huff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; TEXOKIE; Alamo-Girl; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...
FALLUJAH, Iraq - Insurgents attacked a U.S. military convoy and a Humvee was burned Thursday near Fallujah, witnesses said, a day after the grisly killing and mutilation of four American civilians in the city.

It was not clear if there were any casualties in Thursday's assault. U.S. officials said they could not confirm the attack, although American forces briefly blocked roads leading into Fallujah — a move that has often been done during fighting in recent weeks.

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AP recap.

Our enemies would thank our press, but it isn't in their nature to thank infidels, even when infidels appease or do their bidding.

Pray for our troops.

 
A Great Lesson
~ A LESSON TO MY SON by A PROUD AMERICAN
Irma S. Chambers

 
 

47 posted on 04/01/2004 4:55:34 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (TF160 was about terror.Delta was about terror.The Seals were about Terror!- xzins w/TF160-Reagan yrs)
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To: Cap Huff
Thanks for the info, Cap Huff. There is more going on in Iraq than meets the eye, and Freepers should know that after battling our powerful homefront spinners.
48 posted on 04/01/2004 4:59:57 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (TF160 was about terror.Delta was about terror.The Seals were about Terror!- xzins w/TF160-Reagan yrs)
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To: Allegra
Thanks for doing the heavy lifting for democracy in the world.

49 posted on 04/01/2004 5:12:00 AM PST by GEC
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior; Travis McGee; Squantos
From Therom's news report abov:.
"Witnesses in Falluja said several of the men had Defense Department badges, though such identification is common for contractors working for the occupation. A senior military officer said the four were retired Special Operations forces — three Navy Seals and one Army Ranger. American officials declined to immediately identify the dead men."
FYI, thought you would be interested. God rest their souls.
50 posted on 04/01/2004 5:12:50 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Allegra
With all due respect, I'm glad you're not running the show.

Ha, well, that we can agree on!

As far as those "regular folks," there are similar folks in dozens of nations who are as oppressed as they were and who we will never liberate unless their liberation happens to coincide with a threat to us.
51 posted on 04/01/2004 5:13:25 AM PST by jaykay (He who laughs last thinks slowest.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
We are so easy to provoke, and our enemies, both foreign and domestic, have our number.

Mutilating and dragging burned bodies through hoards of cheering crowds then hanging them from a suspended bridge would be a provocation for any country. Fallujah has been a problem throughout, and it should be noted that yesterday's incident was not an isolated one. In fact, there was another attack on a US convoy today in that area. Fallujah needs to be dealt with in a very serious manner. Inaction will only embolden those who want to kill our men. Raining hell down on Fallujah is a completely appropriate response.

52 posted on 04/01/2004 5:15:38 AM PST by CurlyBill (Voter fraud is one of the primary campaign strategies of the Democrats!!!!)
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To: GEC
Thanks for doing the heavy lifting for democracy in the world.

Thanks, but I'm not doing anything heroic.

It's those poeple with whom I have the honor to work and support that are the heroes. :)

53 posted on 04/01/2004 5:17:06 AM PST by Allegra (And WAIT!! That's not all! Call now and receive this FREE....)
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To: Cap Huff
"He said that whenever he sees Iraqi children smile and wave as he passes, his belief that U.S. efforts to free the Iraqi population from tyranny is reinforced."

Some of those same kids were playing with the mutilated bodies of these men. Iraqis can't be trusted.
55 posted on 04/01/2004 5:26:15 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (~ Vote for George W. Bush for reelection in November! ~)
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To: Cap Huff
Rebels attack U.S. convoy outside Fallujah, witnesses said

REBELS??!! I think not. The term "rebel" gives them the air of legitimacy of cause.

56 posted on 04/01/2004 5:28:13 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: Allegra
Thank you for serving over there. I have many friends in the area.

It is clear that most of the Iraqi people wnt us there and are glad we have liberated them.

In the process of doing so, we soundly defeated the Iraqi armed forces and they all know that.

However, in the Sunni triangle, and particularly in this city, there are large numbers of people who did not surrender, but blended back into a population that was much more supportive of Saddam because he empowered them over the rest of the millions of Iraqis.

In these areas, we are going to have to take harsher measures IMHO to put down the insurgency and do things more akin to our defeat of similar fascist/totalitarian supporting populations like we did in World War II. The Marines are the best instrument to accomplish this IMHO. We should employ these tactics (total martial law, rounding up of insurgents through large scale operations which in effect take any male individual into custody above the age of 14 who so much as looks suspicious, brutal suppression of any resistance, internment camps and heavy interrogation of those we take into custody, execution of any individuals founding to have taken part in any such atrocities, and a wholesale reorganization of all civil authority in the area) after giving them ample opportunity to take care of the issue themselves, or to disburse. And, in these areas, particularly after this ruthless attack on our people and the desecration of their bodies, it is we who should do it IMHO, before the turnover of power to the Iraqis in order to finish the job of providing a safe and stable environment for that free Iraq.

I do not believe an Iraqi government, which is representative of the majority of the feelings of the rest of the Iraqis, will allow the Baathist strongholds, where a group who is doing everything in its power to thwart and destroy any free Iraq, to exist after the takeover. I believe they will attempt to crush them ruthlessly because they, above all people know what they represent and have done.

Perhaps it would be better if we let them do it themselves...but it would be very dangerous for that new government and could lead to a more general civil war, or a greater involvement of outside sources.

We shall see.

Best Fregards.

57 posted on 04/01/2004 5:28:37 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior
We need to drop one of those MOABs about a quarter of a mile outside the city limits,just to give them something to think about.
58 posted on 04/01/2004 5:38:29 AM PST by Husker24
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To: ladtx
Rebels? No, I would not have chosen that word. I would draw attention to my post #43. This is from a fellow who works for the same company that the four contractors worked for. From the description of the four men killed it would seem that this man was not one of the casualties.

Note that he says that "many of the attacks in and around Fallujah often have turned out to be natives of Jordan, Iran, Syria, and of the embattled Russian-controlled area of Chechnya." This spells al-Qaeda (al-Zarqawi) to me. That doesn't mean that yesterday's attack was al-Qaeda, and certainly the thugs who committed the atrocities in the aftermath could hardly be called al-Qaeda, but I don't think it is quite so simple to call this an attack from Saddam regime, Baathist holdovers.

Let's just call them terrorists.
59 posted on 04/01/2004 5:44:52 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: america-rules
They've pissed off the marines.

Hell will visit them in a few days !

Yes, the Marines are p*ssed off as are many other people but the civilians that give orders are now fighting a PC war and will keep the marines and other troops on a short leash.

We'll hear about a lot of investigating and interrogating but I seriously doubt that we'll see retaliation of any significance, if any at all. After all, we're in a nation building mode now and don't want to upset the transition of power, doncha know ;-)

60 posted on 04/01/2004 5:49:00 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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