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(as you know, I have been critical of conduct of some of Terri's wierd "supporters" as it has only complicated her legal case, but this is a brand new ball game..)

Expect Bay Area media on this hot all day.

1 posted on 03/30/2004 4:38:14 AM PST by MindBender26
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(as you know, I have been critical of conduct of some of Terri's wierd "supporters" as it has only complicated her legal case, but this is a brand new ball game..)

Oh, gosh. Should I call the cops because it took three sticks to get a blood test from me last month?

2 posted on 03/30/2004 4:41:25 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: MindBender26
This was in breaking news, but our Admin Moderator took it out of that category.

Here was a chance to get ahead of mainstream media on a story that has been exceptionaly hot in Conservative circles, even onto national news, but they take it down so we can simply follow the leader on terror news.

Terri has many friends here. Bad news judgement by Admin Moderator.
6 posted on 03/30/2004 4:49:38 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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Here's the coverage from the St. Petersburg Times.  I couldn't find a story in the Tampa Tribune.

The Terri Schiavo Case

Doctors examine Schiavo 'wounds'

By LEANORA MINAI, Times Staff Writer
Published March 30, 2004

CLEARWATER - Terri Schiavo was being examined Monday night in the Morton Plant-Mease Hospital emergency room after workers at her nursing home discovered "fresh puncture wounds" on her arms.

George Felos, the attorney representing Schiavo's husband, Michael, said the wounds appeared to have been caused by a hypodermic needle. A purple needle cap was found in Schiavo's gown, he said.

The puncture marks were discovered Monday at Park Place assisted living home after a 45-minute visit by her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, Felos said.

"It appears that someone was either trying to inject Terri Schiavo with something or withdraw fluids from her," Felos said.

Terri Schiavo's father, Bob Schindler, said late Monday he was disgusted by such innuendo. Schindler told WTSP-Ch. 10 he was at the hospice Monday afternoon and said nothing was wrong with his daughter when he left.

He said he did not insert a needle into his daughter's arms.

Clearwater police were investigating the incident after Schiavo's husband called them to the nursing home Monday.

Terri Schiavo was undergoing blood tests and other toxicology screenings Monday night at the hospital. No charges were filed.

"Our posture right now is we have to wait and see what the hospital says," said Wayne Shelor, Clearwater police spokesman.

Schiavo collapsed on Feb. 25, 1990, from a suspected chemical imbalance that some doctors think was related to bulimia. She has remained in a vegetative state, but feedings have kept her alive.

Her husband and parents have been battling in court over her fate for years.

Schiavo's husband says she told him before her illness that she would not want to be kept alive. He petitioned the courts in 1998 to remove her feeding tube.

Schiavo's parents doubt she had any such end-of-life wishes and believe she could be rehabilitated with therapy.

After five years of litigation over Terri Schiavo's wishes and fate, her feeding tube was removed Oct. 15.

A massive campaign by religious conservatives across the country pressured lawmakers and Gov. Jeb Bush to step in and save her. The Legislature passed a law Oct. 21, and her feeding tube was reinserted that evening.

In December, Schiavo was moved from the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast in Pinellas Park to the Park Place facility while the hospice undergoes renovation.

Monday's incident adds another wrinkle in the legal saga. Schiavo's husband issued orders denying visits by anyone until the police investigation is complete.

"Mrs. Schiavo was found in a disheveled state with her feeding tube wrapped around her back and an allergy band pulled up very tight on her arm like a tourniquet," Felos said in a press release. "On one arm were four fresh puncture wounds with another fresh puncture wound on her other arm. Also found were fresh scratch wounds, over the puncture wounds as if an attempt were made to conceal the puncture wounds."

Pat Anderson, the Schindlers' attorney, called the development a "ruse to cut off" visits by Terri Schiavo's parents.

"I tell you what it looks like to me," Anderson said. "They're accusing the parents of abusing her, which is insane because the parents have been fighting to take care of her."

Felos, the attorney representing Schiavo's husband, stopped short of accusing Schiavo's parents in the incident but said they were her only visitors Monday.

"Maybe one of their quack doctors told them, "Here, we have a substance that can help Terri get better, but it has to be injected,"' Felos said.[Last modified March 30, 2004, 01:35:43]

8 posted on 03/30/2004 4:53:24 AM PST by Catspaw
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http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=1746904

Clearwater, Florida-AP -- Florida authorities are investigating a mystery surrounding a severely brain-damaged woman who's been at the center of a right-to-die case.

There's word that Terri Schiavo (SHY'-voh) was taken to the hospital from a nursing home -- after nursing home workers noticed punctures on her arms that apparently were caused by a hypodermic needle.

Hospital officials are conducting blood tests. A lawyer for the woman's husband says a needle cap was found in Schiavo's gown. He says a nursing home worker discovered the marks yesterday after a 45-minute visit from the woman's parents.

Her father told a Tampa T-V station (W-T-S-P) that nothing seemed out of the ordinary when he left yesterday. He says he didn't put a needle into his daughter's arms.

She's been in a vegetative state for years. Her husband wants to take her off life support, but her parents want to keep her alive.
9 posted on 03/30/2004 4:54:30 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: MindBender26
Thanks for posting this!
10 posted on 03/30/2004 4:54:55 AM PST by BlessedBeGod ('I went to Vietnam, yada yada yada, I want to be President...")
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To: MindBender26
Poor, poor Terri. She so very much deserves a peaceful, long, happy, contented life. I simply can't understand why Michael loathes her, and because he does, doesn't just cut his losses and move on with his own life (with Jodi and children).

I pray God has angels watching over Terri every second and that He protects this innocent one from the evil that seeks at every turn to destroy her. God bless her heart.

30 posted on 03/30/2004 5:36:21 AM PST by shezza
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To: MindBender26
Was it “puncture wounds” or “hypodermic needle” marks? The two are really not the same.

Was staffer trying the Angle of Death routine?

What “angle” causes death—90 degrees or more?

!!??!!??!!??

32 posted on 03/30/2004 5:42:05 AM PST by TankerKC (Clogged Arteries and Still Smilin'!)
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I was praying for her last night around midnight! Thanks for posting the threads on her because it reminds us that Terri still needs our prayers! May the LORD God move in her behalf this day and expose her enemies in Jesus' Name.
41 posted on 03/30/2004 5:52:50 AM PST by TrueBeliever9
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MORE: Doctors examine Schiavo 'wounds'

By LEANORA MINAI, Times Staff Writer Published March 30, 2004 CLEARWATER - Terri Schiavo was being examined Monday night in the Morton Plant-Mease Hospital emergency room after workers at her nursing home discovered "fresh puncture wounds" on her arms.

George Felos, the attorney representing Schiavo's husband, Michael, said the wounds appeared to have been caused by a hypodermic needle. A purple needle cap was found in Schiavo's gown, he said.

The puncture marks were discovered Monday at Park Place assisted living home after a 45-minute visit by her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, Felos said.

"It appears that someone was either trying to inject Terri Schiavo with something or withdraw fluids from her," Felos said.

Terri Schiavo's father, Bob Schindler, said late Monday he was disgusted by such innuendo. Schindler told WTSP-Ch. 10 he was at the hospice Monday afternoon and said nothing was wrong with his daughter when he left.

He said he did not insert a needle into his daughter's arms. Clearwater police were investigating the incident after Schiavo's husband called them to the nursing home Monday.

Terri Schiavo was undergoing blood tests and other toxicology screenings Monday night at the hospital. No charges were filed.

"Our posture right now is we have to wait and see what the hospital says," said Wayne Shelor, Clearwater police spokesman.

Schiavo collapsed on Feb. 25, 1990, from a suspected chemical imbalance that some doctors think was related to bulimia. She has remained in a vegetative state, but feedings have kept her alive.

Her husband and parents have been battling in court over her fate for years.

Schiavo's husband says she told him before her illness that she would not want to be kept alive. He petitioned the courts in 1998 to remove her feeding tube.

Schiavo's parents doubt she had any such end-of-life wishes and believe she could be rehabilitated with therapy.

After five years of litigation over Terri Schiavo's wishes and fate, her feeding tube was removed Oct. 15.

A massive campaign by religious conservatives across the country pressured lawmakers and Gov. Jeb Bush to step in and save her. The Legislature passed a law Oct. 21, and her feeding tube was reinserted that evening. Monday's incident adds another wrinkle in the legal saga. Schiavo's husband issued orders denying visits by anyone until the police investigation is complete.

"Mrs. Schiavo was found in a disheveled state with her feeding tube wrapped around her back and an allergy band pulled up very tight on her arm like a tourniquet," Felos said in a press release. "On one arm were four fresh puncture wounds with another fresh puncture wound on her other arm. Also found were fresh scratch wounds, over the puncture wounds as if an attempt were made to conceal the puncture wounds."

Pat Anderson, the Schindlers' attorney, called the development a "ruse to cut off" visits by Terri Schiavo's parents.

"I tell you what it looks like to me," Anderson said. "They're accusing the parents of abusing her, which is insane because the parents have been fighting to take care of her."

Felos, the attorney representing Schiavo's husband, stopped short of accusing Schiavo's parents in the incident but said they were her only visitors Monday.

"Maybe one of their quack doctors told them, "Here, we have a substance that can help Terri get better, but it has to be injected,"' Felos said.

FV SAYS: Michael ALWAYS calls the cops which is another ruse.

53 posted on 03/30/2004 6:07:12 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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Can you believe her husband's lawyers?
74 posted on 03/30/2004 6:47:05 AM PST by freekitty
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I'm glad you posted the info...but I am curious what the qualifications are for someone to be in the category of a "weird supporter of Terri"...
79 posted on 03/30/2004 7:17:29 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org)
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Ping!
100 posted on 03/30/2004 8:27:13 AM PST by FR_addict
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I use a spell-checker of death. but in your defense, since
angle is a word, spell checker would not have caught it.
113 posted on 03/30/2004 8:40:30 AM PST by isom35
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I just read on World Net Daily that Judge Greer declined to find Michael Schiavo in contempt for withholding Terri's medical info from her parents. This all reeks so badly I can hardly stand it. That news, along with this incident, is overwhelming.
122 posted on 03/30/2004 8:55:49 AM PST by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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We don't need to allow this thread to be hijacked. This thread isn't about doctor's credentials, previous therapies, or whether or not Terri is in a persistent vegetative state. Can we just ignore the people who are trying to derail this thread?

This thread is in breaking news because mysterious hypodermic puncture wounds on Terri's arms are being investigated as a possible crime. It's relevant that in the past few weeks Terri was found (by her parents) to be missing first one tooth, and then a few days ago a second tooth. She was found in the past few weeks to have a pressure wound. Several weeks ago she was having a mysterious episode of vomiting, which is life-threatening to someone on a feeding tube.

Terri's parents haven't been able to get any response from the nursing or medical staff as to the cause of the missing teeth, the vomiting, or the pressure sore. Michael Schiavo has ordered that no medical information be provided to Terri's parents, despite an earlier court order that they be provided all medical information. Yesterday Judge Greer dismissed the Schindler's contempt motion that would have forced Michael to comply with the earlier court order.

Something is happening to Terri in this nursing home, and it may be coming to a head with this criminal investigation.

202 posted on 03/30/2004 11:04:44 AM PST by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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ping
224 posted on 03/30/2004 11:32:03 AM PST by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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Why is her hino still her guardian? Didn't one of Terri's nurses say that she thought evil incarnate husband had tried to inject her with insulin? Why are there no security cameras in her room? Pray for Terri, the attacks on her are unrelenting.
266 posted on 03/30/2004 12:27:25 PM PST by fly_so_free (Never under estimate the treachery of the democrat party-Save USA vote a dem out of office)
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I want to add, What happened to her teeth? Why does she have bedsores? This is very suspicious. Remember the "aspiration", "vomitting" incidents from just little a while back?

Husband-from-hell needs to be removed as her guardian, at least while the case is pending ,and they need security cameras in her room now.

271 posted on 03/30/2004 12:34:27 PM PST by fly_so_free (Never under estimate the treachery of the democrat party-Save USA vote a dem out of office)
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From CNN - Lawyer: Puncture wounds found on Schiavo's arms
Tuesday, March 30, 2004 Posted: 1:42 PM EST (1842 GMT)

Terri Schiavo

CLEARWATER, Florida (AP) -- Terri Schiavo, the severely brain-damaged woman at the center of a long-running right-to-die court battle, was hospitalized briefly after nursing home workers found what appeared to be needle marks on her arms, a lawyer for her husband said.

However, tests found no unauthorized drugs or other substances in her blood.

Police were investigating.

Four puncture wounds were found on one arm and one was found on the other arm, said attorney George Felos, who represents Michael Schiavo.

He said the wounds, which appeared to have been caused by a hypodermic needle, were discovered after a 45-minute visit Monday by her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, who have been fighting Michael Schiavo's efforts to remove his wife's feeding tube. Schiavo maintains that his wife would not have wanted to be kept alive artificially.

A purple needle cap was found in Terri Schiavo's gown in her room in a Clearwater nursing home, Felos added.

"It appears that someone was either trying to inject Terri Schiavo with something or withdraw fluids from her," Felos said.

Terri Schiavo, 40, was taken to a hospital emergency room, where toxicology tests were negative, Felos said. She was returned to the nursing home.

Felos also said that after the parents' visit, Terri Schiavo was found in "a disheveled state" with her feeding tube wrapped around her back and a medical wrist band pulled up very tight on her arm like a tourniquet.

Her father, Bob Schindler, told WTSP-TV in Tampa that nothing was wrong with his daughter when he left the nursing home and that he did not insert a needle into his daughter's arms.

The Schindlers referred calls Tuesday to attorney George Tragos, who said it would be "absurd" to suggest that her parents were somehow responsible.

"It's just another mean-spirited attack designed to get some judicial advantage," Tragos said.

Tragos said the Schindlers reported that their daughter was clean, dressed in street clothes and sitting up when they left.

"I have no idea what happened, but it certainly is mysterious since we believe she was actually showing some improvement," Tragos said.

Terri Schiavo has been in what court-appointed doctors call a "persistent vegetative state" since 1990 when she collapsed from a chemical imbalance. Her husband says she once told him she would not want to be on life support. Her parents say otherwise and believe she can be rehabilitated.

Also on Monday, Circuit Judge George Greer denied a motion filed by the Schindlers seeking to have Michael Schiavo defend himself in a hearing against charges that he is not sharing sufficient medical information about his wife with her parents.

The Schindlers say he has violated a 1996 court order requiring him to share the information. He countered that he has shared sufficient information with them through attorneys.

Michael Schiavo won a court order to remove a feeding tube in October, but the Florida Legislature quickly passed a law that allowed Gov. Jeb Bush to order the tube reinserted.

Michael Schiavo claimed the law was unconstitutional and has sued the governor. That case is pending.

276 posted on 03/30/2004 12:41:16 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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Ping...I know some of you are already on this.
356 posted on 03/30/2004 4:49:21 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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