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Two Is Enough Why large families don't deserve tax breaks.
Slate ^ | March 29, 2004 | Dalton Conley

Posted on 03/29/2004 4:33:23 PM PST by Un Canadien Errant

Edited on 03/29/2004 4:35:05 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The U.S. government encourages families to have children, as many of them as possible. Child tax credits, child-care tax deductions, and family leave policies all reward parents with big broods. The pro-child policies are based partly on romantic notions about mom, family, and apple pie, but they also have a rational goal: We subsidize kids so that our next generation of workers is ready to win in the global economy.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: birthcontrol; children; tax
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Doesn't this article have the Brave New World feel that lefties love. Talking about "the trade-offs between child quantity and quality" makes children seem more like goods rather than gifts from God.
1 posted on 03/29/2004 4:33:23 PM PST by Un Canadien Errant
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To: Un Canadien Errant
Left-wing anti-life mentality strikes again.
2 posted on 03/29/2004 4:37:24 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Un Canadien Errant
thanx, thought provoking
3 posted on 03/29/2004 4:38:55 PM PST by breakem
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To: Unam Sanctam
Don't forget that the lefties think of large families and see ultra-right wing Christians everywhere.
4 posted on 03/29/2004 4:43:11 PM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: Un Canadien Errant
Welcome to FR, tomorrow.
5 posted on 03/29/2004 4:44:47 PM PST by netmilsmom (Hugs to Conspiracy Guy & Laura Earl on their marriage-3/27/03)
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To: Unam Sanctam
I have the answer: Let's give criminals an option when it comes to sentence. For most offenses, let's offer to them to be surgically "fixed" in order to avoid incarceration. While they will have the benefit of "coasting" on their crime, society will be much better in the long run. The cost of the procedure will be made up 10 fold when the miscrants don't come out to plague us. I understand the ACLU will fight us on this one, but wouldn't it be nice? Also, how about birth control being required when one is on Welfare (you notice I said birth control and not sterilization?). When they have been "benefited" by what Welfare has to offer, AND THEY OFF the program, thn have the kids. What do you think?
6 posted on 03/29/2004 4:48:37 PM PST by dracos
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To: Un Canadien Errant
Dimwit.

A great many women have one or zero children.

Some significant number of women must have three or more just to compensate for them, or the birthrate will fall below replacement level.

The "subsidies" are merely a (very) partial compensation for the costs associated with raising children, an activity vital to the continued survival of a society.

BTW, our glorious European allies have much more generous childbirth incentives. They aren't working. Essentially all European countries are well below replacement levels in their birthrate.
7 posted on 03/29/2004 4:49:29 PM PST by Restorer
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To: Unam Sanctam
Morons.........We already sliced, diced, and sucked out 40 million of the little tykes, how many more should we kill?

Besides, social security would be in just peachy shape if we had not executed 40 million unfortunate to have found themselves in a hostile womb.

8 posted on 03/29/2004 4:50:02 PM PST by blackdog (I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
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To: Un Canadien Errant
Yup. We want to be just like German or Italy, who are failing to reproduce themselves, and will starve in their old age due to lack of children.

On the other hand, there's sure to be some great bargains for us in European real estate as the older generations die off.

9 posted on 03/29/2004 4:51:16 PM PST by AZLiberty (Capitalism presumes we possess a traditional endowment of morals -- F. A. Hayek)
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To: Un Canadien Errant
Europe is dying because of the demographics. An aging society with fewer workers supporting the economy and the social welfare system doom a country's competitiveness in the world economy. Countries like Germany are providing "kinder geld" to encourage more children. This article is nonsense.
10 posted on 03/29/2004 4:54:12 PM PST by kabar
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To: Un Canadien Errant; All
short-term idea with long-term dreadful consequences ... all we have to do is wait for the Islamo-fascists to reproduce their way into the majority and kill off our few great-grandchildren.
11 posted on 03/29/2004 4:55:53 PM PST by Temple Drake
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To: Un Canadien Errant
Who is going to pay your Social Securety?
12 posted on 03/29/2004 4:56:29 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Un Canadien Errant
Most of the kids I see that are from large families are on medicaid. Somehow I do not equate that with any kind of support in "winning" the global economy. Just another drain on the the taxpayers. If you can't afford them--don't have them.
13 posted on 03/29/2004 5:00:37 PM PST by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: Dan(9698)
Exactly. Soon if the lefties get their way we'll be like Japan: a society with no children and no future. And then who will defend America?
14 posted on 03/29/2004 5:02:04 PM PST by Un Canadien Errant
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To: Un Canadien Errant
I could fertilize my lawn with the article and have lush green grass by morning...for my kids to romp around in. Utter hogwash.
15 posted on 03/29/2004 5:08:23 PM PST by grellis (Che cosa ha mangiato?)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Left-wing anti-life mentality strikes again.

You nailed it.  The title is "large families don't deserve tax breaks".  The graphic shows the government keeping the peoples money out of the outstretched hand of those greedy taxpayers.

Illustration by Nina Frenkel

So once again we hear the left assuming that all money belongs to the government, and it uses 'tax breaks' to decide who gets to have some of their own money back and who doesn't.

I'll tell you who 'deserves' a tax break, a tax payer-- large family or not.  The only large (or small) family (or single for that matter) who doesn't is the professional 'victim' that doesn't pay any taxes in the first place.

But this is probably to complicated for the half of the population that doesn't pay taxes.

16 posted on 03/29/2004 5:19:46 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: Un Canadien Errant
conclusion, the left HATES children.

for the democrats Mother is a four letter word
for the democrats Fatherhood is a hatecrime
for the democrats Family is a sex act
for the democrats forced idividualism is a tool of power
for the democrats selfless acts are taxable.
17 posted on 03/29/2004 5:21:54 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Un Canadien Errant
Ah.. More BS from Slate. I have three children and will probably shoot for (or at least my SO will)a fourth. The same people who propose this BS are all for gay marriages and the associated benefits they like to claim all married people have.
18 posted on 03/29/2004 5:23:56 PM PST by conservative cat
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Europe is dying because of the demographics.

In the Republics of the former Soviet Union, the number of abortions exceed the number of live births by a factor of 1/2. Example: In St. Petersburg, Russia in 2002 there were 24,000 live births and 36,000 abortions. And you thought Stalin was a killer?

19 posted on 03/29/2004 5:25:48 PM PST by CholeraJoe (VetsCor!! Because an Oath is forever)
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To: CholeraJoe
due to shortages, abortion was the form of birth control used. It was not unusual for a woman to have six or more abortions.
20 posted on 03/29/2004 5:30:04 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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