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Radio search for ET draws a blank
BBC News Online ^ | Thursday, March 25, 2004 | By Dr David Whitehouse

Posted on 03/28/2004 8:38:01 AM PST by Momaw Nadon

Astronomers have completed their most sensitive search yet for radio signals from intelligent life in space.

They believe the best way to find ET is to look for a radio signal. Such signals can travel vast distances.

The Arecibo radio telescope in Puerto Rico, supported by Jodrell Bank, searched over a period of 10 years.

The scientists looked at 800 nearby stars with no evidence of a signal from ET. They say they have learned a lot, and plan another search next year.

From the ashes

The last star scrutinised by Project Phoenix - the most powerful search for intelligent life in space ever carried out - was HD 169882, a fairly ordinary star lying just 88 light-years away.

The result was that no signals indicative of an intelligent origin are coming from it, at least during the time it was observed.

So if there are any aliens on a planet circling that star then perhaps they are not interested in signalling, or are doing it in a way we cannot yet detect.

Project Phoenix was so-named because it rose from the ashes of a US space agency (NASA) initiative to search for intelligent life in space that was cancelled by US Congress in 1993.

Despite this setback, the scientists involved were determined to carry out their search.

"When the 'termination' order came from Washington, most of the equipment was on lab benches. We were immediately faced with three challenges: raise private money, get NASA to loan us the equipment and get it working," Peter Backus, project manager for Phoenix, told BBC News Online.

After the initial scramble, the scientists managed to get an Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (ETI) search system built and used it on the Parkes radio telescope in Australia in February 1995, just one month later than the original Nasa plan.

No signal

Much of Project Phoenix's time was spent on the world's largest radio telescope, the 330-metre dish at Arecibo, which takes advantage of the natural topography of Puerto Rico's mountains.

"Over the years we have observed about 800 nearby stars over billions of frequency channels at high sensitivity," says Backus.

"No other search covered as many frequencies or achieved the same sensitivity. It was the only search capable of detecting ET transmitters with power comparable to our own military radars."

One of the problems in looking for signals from intelligences in space is that signals from Earth can interfere, so the scientists have to have a reliable way of discriminating between ET and terrestrial interference.

Phoenix pioneered a technique of "real-time interference monitoring" using a second radio telescope to determine if any suspicious signal was actually coming from deep space.

Expanded search

No suspicious signal survived that test, but the astronomers are not down-hearted; they know that ET could be detected tomorrow, in a thousand years, or never.

They say a search with an outcome that could be one of the biggest scientific discoveries of all time is worth the effort.

"We've learned a lot about searching for Eti. We'll carry those lessons and the new search system to the Allen Telescope Array (ATA)," Backus adds.

"Later this year, we'll be using the ATA with 32 small dishes. As the array expands, we'll start a new targeted search covering several hundred thousand stars.

"As I look back over the past 10 years I'm very proud of what we have achieved - the most sensitive and comprehensive search of our galactic neighbourhood.

"Conclusion: we live in a quiet neighbourhood."


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To: longshadow
Unless our antennae were located at the poles ...

True, but utterly irrelevant to the issue under discussion. Reminds me of a well-known creo's style. You're going over to the dark side.

61 posted on 03/28/2004 7:02:25 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: PatrickHenry
True, but utterly irrelevant to the issue under discussion. Reminds me of a well-known creo's style. You're going over to the dark side.

SLIMES!

This obviously proves that you cannot rebut my "polar antennae theory"! Your SLIMES reveal the emptiness of your intellecual position!

</ g3k memorial moron mode>

62 posted on 03/28/2004 7:09:21 PM PST by longshadow
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To: SamAdams76
Most people assume that aliens from a different planet would be very eager to communicate with us once they realized we existed. However, the sad reality is that we are likely to appear as hopelessly prehistoric from their point of reference.

We also assume that a spacefaring civilization would have the same interests we do- that is, another species might have no interest at all in meeting another sentient race.

63 posted on 03/28/2004 9:17:40 PM PST by Modernman (Chthulhu for President! Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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To: RadioAstronomer
OK. I was going to joke that you got some 'splainin to do... but #15 did the splainin'
64 posted on 03/28/2004 9:36:10 PM PST by GeronL (www.armorforcongress.com..... put a FReeper in Congress)
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To: Las Vegas Dave; All
I dont' recall much about

ET to ET communications in the radio spectrum.

IF my memory serves me right, their communications are thought or known to occur on some other sort of 'sub-space' level of reality or dimension.

But, contradictorily,

I also have a faint memory of there having been some brief and very rare communications caught between ET's but I don't know of what sort, how or when they were caught.

Most of it seems to be outside our experience, if not outside our science.

Am reading a long document on scalar waves now. I suppose it could be some means along those lines.

I've long wondered if it were possible for atoms to carry data and communicate it atom to atom whether by spin or orbit or some combination sorts of things.

I've just toyed with the mechanics of God being in touch with every atom of His creation. Perhaps the scalar phenomenon which asserts that the spaces between the subatomic particles of atomic structures--the spaces that most things are mostly made of--or everything is mostly made of--that those spaces are filled with energy which has some profound relationships to time and other dimensions . . . anyway--gets complicated and beyond my training but is fascinating.

Perhaps communications ET to ET are truly EXTRADIMENSIONAL.

About the limits of my faint memories on such things.

THANKS FOR THE PING.
65 posted on 03/28/2004 10:00:40 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: RadioAstronomer

just a topic bump

Refuting Fermi: No Evidence for Extraterrestrial Life?
John B. Alexander
National Institute for Discovery Science
http://www.nidsci.org/pdf/fermi.pdf

related FR topics:

Cosmic Conundrum [Brief essay on multiple universes and the Anthropic Principle]
Time ^ | Monday, November 22, 2004 | Michael D. Lemonick; J. Madeleine Nash
Posted on 11/26/2004 1:33:59 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1288684/posts

The Fermi Paradox - Are We Alone in the Universe
Posted on 05/19/2004 12:46:40 PM PDT by Conservomax
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1138670/posts


66 posted on 01/02/2005 4:28:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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