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Concealed-weapons law increases dangers in life
Coulmbia, Missouri Daily Trib. ^ | March 27, 2004 | B. Gray

Posted on 03/27/2004 11:10:14 AM PST by rface

Editor, the Tribune: Now that conceal and carry has been established, I would like to make the public aware of the possible "side effects" of this new bully law. First off, don’t be surprised that if and when you get pulled over by a police officer, he or she comes in full assault fashion with gun drawn and ready to defend his or her life. You’ll have a gun pointed right at you, cocked and ready to fire. Don’t panic and do something stupid, because you might get shot. Obey the officer, keep your hands in sight and move slowly when he asks for your license. After all, he must assume you’re armed.

I’m sure many officers have pondered this situation in their daily duties. I am only assuming this might be the scenario, and I could be wrong, but better safe than sorry.

I will always be against putting more potentially dangerous weapons in the hands of our general public. Less lethal avenues should be sought if you feel you need to defend your life 24 hours a day. There’s something wrong with the inadequate mind that needs to use a gun to feel protected. Seeking help to bolster one’s insecurities would be a good place to start. I know, because for 22 years, I was held hostage in my own home as my ex-husband practiced killing me day in and day out with his beloved guns. It’s a disease of dependence with fear and control its drug.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; fmcdh; guns; kkba; rkba
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To: TC Rider
Forgot one thing in POST 56.

In NC you are required to disclose you're carrying when approached by the police.
61 posted on 03/27/2004 1:34:31 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: marktwain
I read that men were the majority of victims in domestic murders, as well.
62 posted on 03/27/2004 1:37:34 PM PST by ought-six
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To: rface
I didn't publish her name here.

No, you didn't. But her name and address are in the article. For any criminals savvy enough to read her ill conceived opinions, she just painted a target on her back and told the world she doesn't believe in lethal force.

63 posted on 03/27/2004 1:40:07 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: ought-six
I read that men were the majority of victims in domestic murders, as well.

Maybe I'll have to look into some of these statistics. I know that in this county, while there haven't been a lot of murders in my life, there have been enough to say women are the primary victims. I know of one case where a woman killed her live-in boyfriend, but about 8 cases where men killed their wife/girlfriend. Of course, we're more rural here; maybe killing your husband is more of an urban thing.

64 posted on 03/27/2004 1:42:58 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: GrandEagle
The reason one has to have a driver's license to drive is because they will drive on public roads. One does NOT need a driver's license to drive on private property.
65 posted on 03/27/2004 1:46:28 PM PST by ought-six
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To: Gefreiter
Let us hope (pray) this woman has not reproduced.
66 posted on 03/27/2004 1:48:17 PM PST by TYVets ("An armed society is a polite society." - Robert A. Heinlein & me)
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To: rface
Do you know the difference between the NRA and the NEA?

The NRA doesn't need a gun to collect its dues.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

67 posted on 03/27/2004 1:52:47 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: SauronOfMordor
This article (Spouse Murder Defendents in Large Urban Counties) says in the beginning of the article that more men killed their spouses:

Number of spouse murder defendants and their demographic characteristics

In 1988, the justice system in the Nation's 75 largest counties disposed of an estimated 540 spouse murder cases. Husbands charged with killing their wife outnumbered wives charged with killing their husband. Of the 540, 318 (or 59%) were husband defendants and 222 (or 41%) were wife defendants.

68 posted on 03/27/2004 1:53:20 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: humblegunner
Your mind is faulty Ping!

I don't carry a gun because the police will protect me at all times.

I don't have a fire extinguisher because the fire department will put out my fires.

I have not learned CPR because emergency aid workers will revive my family and friends.

Not faulty at all!!!

69 posted on 03/27/2004 1:53:40 PM PST by Eaker ("Do I feel your pain?? Hell, I caused your pain!!!!" - Tom Eaker, 2004)
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To: Squantos
Ain't seen you in a while ............ so HOWDY!!!

;<)

70 posted on 03/27/2004 1:56:56 PM PST by Eaker ("Do I feel your pain?? Hell, I caused your pain!!!!" - Tom Eaker, 2004)
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To: TC Rider
"there are cases of individuals being ambushed who open carry."

Yeah, I had all the reasons explained to me in the classes, but it still doesn't make sense to me.
The logic is that if a bad guy is going to rob a grocery store and sees someone carrying, he nails him first, but if twenty people are openly carrying, he won't try to rob it in the first place.
Another argument was that if a bad guy sees someone carrying, he takes him out just because he's carrying.

No, sorry. This looks like a fabrication of excuses because that's the way the law reads.
To me, it's still not logical.

'Course, I'd much rather have concealed carry than no carry!

71 posted on 03/27/2004 2:04:51 PM PST by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: TexasCowboy
'Course, I'd much rather have concealed carry than no carry!

No fair, you carry yer gun in yer hat!!!

72 posted on 03/27/2004 2:06:35 PM PST by Eaker ("Do I feel your pain?? Hell, I caused your pain!!!!" - Tom Eaker, 2004)
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To: TYVets
AMAZING !

The newspaper article gives the woman's name and address. I assumed it was fake, so I went to Switchboard.

Switchboard gives her address, plus phone number, plus a map of the location, time required: less than one minute.

73 posted on 03/27/2004 2:09:18 PM PST by TYVets ("An armed society is a polite society." - Robert A. Heinlein & me)
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To: DumpsterDiver
This woman must also be terrified of the police. Surely, she must be on some heavy medication just to function at all.
74 posted on 03/27/2004 2:11:14 PM PST by babaloo999 (Zionist troll since 2001)
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To: Kay Ludlow
Oops, meant to type 59% of DEFENDENTS were husband
75 posted on 03/27/2004 2:11:56 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: Eaker
"No fair, you carry yer gun in yer hat!!!"

HEY! That's a darn good idea!
I ain't got much hair left up there anyway!

76 posted on 03/27/2004 2:12:21 PM PST by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: marktwain
Of spouses that murder each other, 75% of the victims are men.

Sometimes I'm pretty sure I'll die of PMS.

77 posted on 03/27/2004 2:16:07 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: rface
I would like to make the public aware of the possible "side effects" of this new bully law.

Bullies don't like it.

if and when you get pulled over by a police officer, he or she comes in full assault fashion with gun drawn and ready to defend his or her life.

I never did after CPLS were issued. You’ll have a gun pointed right at you, cocked and ready to fire.

If I did, someone's badge would be taken away real quick unless there is a damn good reason.

After all, he must assume you’re armed.

Cops are supposed to assume you may be armed anyway. Crools don't have a CPL.

I could be wrong

You are wrong.

I will always be against putting more potentially dangerous weapons in the hands of our general public.

So that means cars, knives, gasoline, baseball bats, hockey sticks, bricks, stones, tire irons, crowbars, axes, and a zillion other things should be banned too....? What about my foot, fists, and hands?

Less lethal avenues should be sought if you feel you need to defend your life 24 hours a day.

As in.....? I'm waiting. Name it. There’s something wrong with the inadequate mind that needs to use a gun to feel protected.

Elitist BS. What is wrong? Specifics?

Seeking help to bolster one’s insecurities would be a good place to start.

What "insecurites?" Name them.

I know, because for 22 years, I was held hostage in my own home as my ex-husband practiced killing me day in and day out with his beloved guns. It’s a disease of dependence with fear and control its drug.

ASSuming this is the case, you are ASSumining that all gun owners are like your ex-husband. That means you are a bigot.

78 posted on 03/27/2004 2:20:11 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (John Kerry is.....The Boston Strangler)
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To: rface
Over the top nut case projecting her own twisted impressions and insecure assumptions on society as a whole. Hey, not everyone is as screwed up as you and the guy you married. Get some professional help instead of making a fool out of yourself by writing such nonsense.
79 posted on 03/27/2004 2:33:53 PM PST by paul51
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To: B4Ranch
Objection # 2: "Gun registration and owner licensing helps police solve crimes, just like the cars' license plates and the drivers' licenses."

Side-related issue:
Car license/registrations, IF for the often stated purpose, would be a ONE TIME proceedure/fee, provided no ownership or address etc changes occurred.

How long would it take government to make license/registraion of guns an annual (or more often even) event, and raise the fees, to make it prohibitively inconvienient and expensive to own? How soon would it also require a license to buy ammunition?

A recent posting by a citizen of a foreign country (I don't remember which country) that I read mentioned that he & his guns, ammunition, shooting records, and 'safe storage' are INSPECTED quarterly.

That is FOUR times per year he has to allow his nation's authorities into his home to make sure he still owns the weapons AND AMMUNITION in question; that they are "properly" stored; and that ALL the ammunition is accounted for. He stated that he is a not a dealer; he is a private shooting club member.
80 posted on 03/27/2004 2:50:47 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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