Live Thread - September 11 Commission, Day 2, Wednesday, March 24, 2004

Joe Wilson is coming out with his book on April 30

3,041 posted on 03/24/2004 4:30:25 PM PST by Shermy

Oh, I did. Called the DC commission earlier and just emailed the NY commission.

3,042 posted on 03/24/2004 4:31:13 PM PST by freeperfromnj

To: YaYa123; Howlin; Miss Marple

I have been at work all day can someone take pity on me......and tell me what happened?

3,043 posted on 03/24/2004 4:31:46 PM PST by Dog

To: StriperSniper

Gibson is much better for my tastes.

3,045 posted on 03/24/2004 4:35:06 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)

Look at #609 on this thread for the bombshell!

3,047 posted on 03/24/2004 4:35:59 PM PST by Howlin (It's another good day to be a Republican!)

That's right! I forgot about Wilson's book. Add that one to the list.

3,048 posted on 03/24/2004 4:36:25 PM PST by Wait4Truth

To: BigSkyFreeper

Its all about his bank account!

3,049 posted on 03/24/2004 4:36:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)

I just got in and haven't check the Paki news sites yet..

3,050 posted on 03/24/2004 4:36:33 PM PST by Dog

3,051 posted on 03/24/2004 4:37:07 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)

I noticed you didn't provide a source or context.

LOL

3,052 posted on 03/24/2004 4:39:25 PM PST by cyncooper ("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

3,053 posted on 03/24/2004 4:42:42 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)

Do you think I made this up?

3,054 posted on 03/24/2004 4:43:16 PM PST by Toespi (,)

To: Republican Red

I usually am very cool on Kristol but he skewered Clarke and the precedent he's setting.

3,055 posted on 03/24/2004 4:46:00 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)

For those that are interested in how Pearl Harbor was investigated beginning in late 1945 and lasting till May 1946.

A chronological chart of the investigations from the "Dorn Report".
Use a hyperlinked map of the Investigations to navigate or scroll down.
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/file_map.html

The "NINE INVESTIGATIONS" in chronological order:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/invest.html

The Knox Investigation http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/knox/knox_0.html
Dec. 9-14, 1941.

The Roberts Commission http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/roberts/roberts.html
Dec. 18-January-23, 1941

The Hart Investigation http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/hart/hart-00.html
Feb. 12-June 15, 1944

The Army Pearl Harbor Board http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/army/chap_0.html
Jul. 20-Oct. 20, 1944

The Navy Court of Inquiry http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/navy/navy_0.html
Jul. 24-Oct. 19, 1944.

The Clarke Investigation http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/clarke/clarke_0.html
Aug. 4-Sep 20, 1944

The Clausen Investigation
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/clausen/clausen.html
Jan. 24-Sep. 12, 1945

The Hewitt Inquiry http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/hewitt/hewitt-0.html
May 14-July 11, 1945

The Joint Congressional Committee
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/congress/part_0.html
Nov. 15, 1945-May 23, 1946
==========================
Suggested research path:

The Joint Congressional Committee
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/congress/part_0.html
Table of Contents gives a good over-view of the Report
and the Report itself refers back to the previous reports.

The Pearl Harbor Investigation Listing
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/invest.html
including the Joint Congressional Committee report and
the other eight official investigations
into the attack.

The Listing of Additional Files
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/extra.html
Holds several items that are of interest but weren't included in all of the
proceedings.

Naval Historical Center Images of Pearl Harbor
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/events/wwii-pac/pearlhbr/pearlhbr.htm

Photographic collections related to Pearl Harbor
http://ibiblio.org/pha/images/index.html

A Chronological Collection of Documents Relating to the U.S. Entry Into WWII
http://ibiblio.org/pha/timeline/ (Four parts)
    Magic intercepts listed in the Pearl Harbor Attack Hearings.
    Communications between Washington and the US embassy in Tokyo, other
    relevant US documents.
    International chronology, listing various documents from around the world
    Military document chronology, listing important military plans, studies and   communications.

Japanese Operational Monograph No. 97 PEARL HARBOR OPERATIONS:

General Outline of Orders and Plans http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/myths/jm-097.html
was rewritten in English by the Japanese Research Division, Military History
Section, Headquarters, Army Forces Far East and is based on the translation
of the Japanese original.

Pearl Harbor Revisionism
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/3682/phrevisionism.html
First Order revisionism holds President Franklin D. Roosevelt personally
responsible for the debacle at Pearl Harbor and regards him as having used
the incident as a means to get the United States involved in the War and
subsequently used the Hawaiian commanders as scapegoats to shift public
attention away from the activities of the Administration.

3,056 posted on 03/24/2004 4:52:52 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)

Exactly. But to hear the non-FNC outlets, you'd think this was a massive breach of ethics.

It just irritates me no end.

Thank heavens for alternative media these days.

Maybe we actually have half a chance to get the truth out.

After listening to Chrissie Matthews a while ago though, sometimes I wonder. Nothing partisan about the segment I saw with Isikoff and Dana Milbank and Chrissie...and representing the other side? Zip.

3,057 posted on 03/24/2004 4:56:19 PM PST by texasbluebell

Here is the email I sent to the 9-11 commission.

...

I have watched the hearing for the last 2 days. I am very disgusted at the partisanship shown by several members of the committee. Today one member brought up an interview Clark gave a year or so ago, that totally contradicted his testimony. Only 2-3 of the members actually followed up with Clark about this. I was stunned that several of the member seemed to be trying to defend Clark. I think it was Kerry that actually attacked the news source. I thought they were trying to get to the truth, not where the source was. Tell Kerry his comments were unprofessional and disgusting. To me, it seems as if 4-5 of the member have already made up their minds. It looks as if they are trying to blame president Bush. They must remember this is very important. We lost 3,000 US citizens on 9-11. We are STILL at war. I cannot believe how some of these members seem to be attacking Bush during a time of war. I will be honest. After the last 2 days, I have no confidence that this commission will get to the root of the problem. I believe whatever report will come down to partisanship by the members. Please tell them all, that a good part of America is ashamed of how they are acting. This comission will be dismissed as irrelevant my most of America I am afraid.

3,058 posted on 03/24/2004 4:58:32 PM PST by gswilder

This is very depressing. The power of the Clintonistas left-wing media to lie and distort seems overwhelming.

3,059 posted on 03/24/2004 5:00:38 PM PST by mondonico (Peace through Superior Firepower)

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Nothing wrong with Gibson. :)

But I like to point out Asman when I get the chance, I don't think he gets the credit he is due.

3,060 posted on 03/24/2004 5:01:09 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)

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