Sen. Stennis Shot in DC (1973 AFVN Radio transcript)

American Forces Vietnam Network (archive) ^ | January 73 | SP5 Jerry Elliott

[mtbopfuyn]

He is Cokie's father, and his plane went down over Alaska October 16th, 1972, never found

Hmm, anything can be found, especially something as big as a plane. Of course "they" (whomever they may be) may not want it found.

[faithincowboys]

Was this the work of Kerry's friends in VVAW???

[Sabertooth]

Was this the work of Kerry's friends in VVAW???

It's an open question. Info on the Stennis shooting is impossible to find.

See post #100.

[Tribune7]

bump I saw a V V A W guy defending Kerry of Fox claiming the fellow speaking about assassinating senators was a flake and not taken seriously.

This is a pretty good counterpoint.

[Sabertooth]

How does this prove Kerry's culpability? Two black men rob a Senator and Kerry is somehow involved? Why would an assassination group send two amateurs when they have expert marksman available?

First, info is so sparse it's difficult to know yet if Tyrone Marshall (or his so-far unnamed accomplice) had any connection to Kerry's VVAW comrades. One of the bullets narrowly missed Stennis' heart.

Second, even if there is no connection, Kerry never reported the Phoenix Project to the authorities. Had he done so, presumably Senator Stennis would have been warned and had the opportunity to take proper precautions.

Those precautions themselves might have thwarted this shooting.

[Sabertooth]

bump I saw a V V A W guy defending Kerry of Fox claiming the fellow speaking about assassinating senators was a flake and not taken seriously.

Was that Randy Barnes, talking about Scott Camil?

Barnes' story has been all over the map about Camil, and John Hurley, leader of a Vets for Kerry org. (the name escapes me) has been pressuring the witnesses to Kerry's presence at the Phoenix Project to back off of their stories once Gerald Nicosia's FBI files made Kerry's denials non-operational.

Kerry was at the meeting, the meeting was moved twice that night to discuss the Senatorial assassination plot to avoid surveillance. The debate was heated, restricted to the highest level officers in the VVAW, and the vote was reportedly close.

[Sabertooth]

I missed the significance of the document you posted. Can you elaborate?

Thanks.

[Tribune7]

Was that Randy Barnes, talking about Scott Camil?

I believe it was Randy Barnes, although I forget who he was talking about. IIRC, the interviewer was John Gibson who was supportive of Barnes.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Looks like "Cold Case Files" finally has the breakthrough they've been looking for. Expect simulataneous raids at several luxury properties in Boston, Nantucket, Montana,....

[mtbopfuyn]

Killed in the plane crash with Boggs (and his aide, Don Jonz) was also Senator Nicholas Begich, Democrat from Alaska. Couldn't find Begich's views on the war. Did find that Arkancide might have a longer history than we first thought:

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/regressive.htm - Boggs was, for those who have forgotten, a member of the notorious Warren Committee and later one of the most outspoken critics of the infamous report issued by that committee. Boggs had questioned the preposterous single bullet theory and had openly accused J. Edgar Hoover's FBI of running a massive wiretapping and blackmail operation to pressure Congress into accepting the report's patently bogus findings. His flight allegedly disappeared over Alaska and was, by official reports anyway, never recovered. In an interesting side note, the young man who gave Boggs a lift to the airport that fateful day was none other than William Jefferson Clinton. (4) Small world.

[GigaDittos]

Anyone that is aware of a plot to kill Government officials, must report it. I agree. But this tie with the two thugs, seems questionable.

[FourtySeven]

Good work!

[justshutupandtakeit]

Saddam was not in power in 1973.

[FourtySeven]

Interesting, thanks.

[FourtySeven]

k, thanks.

[#3Fan]

How does this prove Kerry's culpability? Two black men rob a Senator and Kerry is somehow involved? Why would an assassination group send two amateurs when they have expert marksman available?

He knew of the upcoming attacks but didn't report them to prevent them. He allowed Senators to possibly be killed.

[Dante3]

Possibly two of the sentors on the hit list died in plan crashes? Intersting.

[pete anderson]

Instead of blaming Kerry the left will simply put the blame on the FBI who knew of the VVAW plot.

[hummingbird]

More trivia: 1973 : (US : MURDERER SHAKUR FINDS SAFE HAVEN IN CUBA) Black Liberation Army leader Joanne Chesimard aka Assata Shakur, one of New Jersey's most wanted fugitives for killing a New Jersey State trooper in 1973, would end up getting safe haven in Cuba.- "CASTRO AND THE INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM, A CHRONOLOGY," by Eugene Pons with a foreword by Jaime Suchlicki, Institute for Cuban & Cuban-American Studies, Occasional Paper Series, September 2001

Probably unrelated, but here is some more trivia: Tupac Amaru Shakur, the rapper killed 09/13/96 according to official website set up by his Mother, Afeni Shakur. His father is Mutula Shakur. Both parents were Black Panthers; Mother was part of Project 21 of Black Panthers. Her birth name is Alice Faye Williams. In the back of my mind, I think Amaru is the name of a political party. I think I'll google a while. Tupac's father went to prison around '73 for fatal armed car robbery.

[mtbopfuyn]

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a4ff9356402.htm

Interesting thread on Cokie/Clinton connection. Clinton drove Boggs to catch the fateful plane. Cokie's mother succeeded dad Bogg in 1973-90. In '97, Clinton appointed mom Amassador to Vatican. Interesting, today Kerry tells Pope to take a flying leap. DC is such a soap opera.