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L.A. TIMES DOES LEFT WING B.S. PARTISAN PUFF PIECE ON KERRY AND KANSAS CITY MEETING
3-22-04 | dfu

Posted on 03/22/2004 8:06:57 AM PST by doug from upland

I had reported last week that at least two major newspapers and one news magazine was working on the story of John Kerry's attendance at a VVAW meeting in Kansas City on Nov. 12-15, 1971. According to Tom Lipscomb of the NY SUN, the assassination of U.S. senators was discussed at that meeting.

One of the newspapers has spoken. It is the L.A. TIMES. John Glionna has written a Kerry-defending puff piece, FBI Shadowed Kerry During Activist Era. In 2163 words, he did not mention assassination, senators, or Scott Camil.

This was nothing but partisan crap journalism. The biggest hit on Kerry was the following:

Previously, Kerry had denied being at the Kansas City gathering. But the FBI files, along with interviews with former VVAW members, indicate that he attended at least some portion of the meetings, using the occasion to resign his post as one of the group's national coordinators.

"I still have no memory of a Kansas City meeting.

"I have this stark memory of the humidity that day [I resigned from VVAW]…. I just remember forever a dark storm brewing, with these huge thunderhead clouds."

But his recollection was that he resigned at the St. Louis meeting. "And every reminder we have since then has put it there, including Nicosia's book," he said.

I am pretty sure that I would have a recollection of a meeting at which I resigned because some of my friends advocated murdering senators.

If anyone wants to phone Mr. Glionna to give him your opinion, FReepmail me.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; assassination; camil; crapjournalism; darkplot; glionna; kansascity; kerry; latimes; mediabias; senators; vvaw
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To: Congressman Billybob
Would you like to tell that to John Glionna? 415-274-9017
21 posted on 03/22/2004 8:55:14 AM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Baynative
Great Pictures!!!

This is the funniest thing I've seen all year. Thanks!

Stephanie
22 posted on 03/22/2004 8:55:25 AM PST by marinamuffy (Bush-Cheney '04!!! www.georgewbush.com)
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To: Yaelle
Call the reporter and set him straight if you like. 415-274-9017
23 posted on 03/22/2004 8:57:04 AM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
My email to him this morning ---

I read the story. In 2163 words, you did not mention senators, assassination, or Scott Camil. You did not mention how he had lied about being at the Kansas City meeting. You did not mention that witnesses are currently being pressured by Kerry operatives. It was nothing but a puff piece defending Kerry. I am sorry I sent this info to the L.A. TIMES and am angry with myself. After all these years, I should have known what to expect.

"I still have no memory of a Kansas City meeting." -- I think that if I attended a meeting where Scott Camil forced the issue of voting on whether to kill U.S. senators, I would remember it. I would remember why I quit the group.

You didn't get the story and simply used it for your own political agenda.

Shame on you.

24 posted on 03/22/2004 8:59:25 AM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
I left him a long "nonpartisan" message about what he left out and why he should do the story the correct way, both for the good of his party and the country.
25 posted on 03/22/2004 9:06:23 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
Thanks.
27 posted on 03/22/2004 9:08:19 AM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
No! Kerry did nothing wrong! It's that damnable NIXON!
29 posted on 03/22/2004 9:12:37 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Baynative
I think he has called it a personal disagreement or words to that effect.
30 posted on 03/22/2004 9:22:22 AM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Baynative
FYI... The New York Times identified Kerry as "spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War" in an article on January 11, 1972. In fact, as late as April 22, 1972, Kerry was still being identified in press reports as a "leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War."

Source

31 posted on 03/22/2004 9:27:32 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: All
"The Ugly Similarities between Hillary Clinton and John Kerry"

from http://www.hilldabeast.com -

Recent events show the ugly similarities between Hillary Clinton and John Kerry.
They share many of the disgusting traits from the underbelly of liberal bottom dwellers.

Both, Hillary and John have the following in common:

• Socialist/extreme left agenda.
• Contradict themselves regularly.
• Want to raise taxes and distribute wealth.
• Could care less about the country due to their own power hungry plans of destruction.
• Not easy on the eyes.
• Look horrible in a skirt.

Just to name a few.




(FR Posters add some more...)
-- "treat secret service like 'the help'"

-- "Use their offspring as props.

Kerry got caught in some faux pas that was fodder for
the Boston "news" people. He deliberately went on a
shopping spree (where have I heard that before??) with
his then - young daughters. The hounding press were
unable to ask the biting questions.

And, of course, he denied using the girls as a shield.
32 posted on 03/22/2004 9:28:35 AM PST by Joy Angela (** Keep Hillary FAR AWAY!!**)
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To: All
Here's a link to the original story as posted here at FR:

FBI Shadowed Kerry During Activist Era - The LA Times Shills For Kerry
Los Angeles Times ^ | March 22, 2004 | John M. Glionna

If anybody wants an exercise in frustration, they could always contact:

Readers' Representative


If you have questions or concerns about The Times' journalistic standards and practices, or you believe we have made an error, you may contact:
Los Angeles Times Readers' Representative Office
E-mail: readers.rep@latimes.com
Telephone message line: (877) 554-4000
Fax: (213) 237-3535
Postal mail: 202 W. 1st St., Los Angeles, CA 90012
Newspaper delivery hotline: (800) 252-9141

33 posted on 03/22/2004 9:30:14 AM PST by Hon
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To: DoctorMichael
"No! Kerry did nothing wrong! It's that damnable NIXON!"

I know you are joking, but the idiot who wrote this screed did not seem to know that the FBI began "shadowing" the VVAW in 1967--when DEMOCRAT LBJ was President.
34 posted on 03/22/2004 9:32:56 AM PST by Hon
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To: All
Here is the real story ---

MIDI - BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS

It's mid November nineteen seventy one
A major confrontation, friends, was said to have begun
Some vets had done some planning...they were getting really sore
They would move to the next level in attempts to stop the war

The FBI had been watchin' 'em in action
They're gettin' real scary...what's the next thing they would do?
In Kansas City would the plot gain traction
Would senators see pearly gates before the year was through?

A young John F. Kerry had been telling great big lies
U.S. troops pulled off mass murder, that should come as no surprise
They're killing for pleasure and were zapping testicles
Before the U.S. Congress he was spreading all that bull

The FBI had been watchin' 'em in action
They're gettin' real scary...what's the next thing they would do?
In Kansas City would the plot gain traction
Would senators see pearly gates before the year was through?

Back in Vietnam there were some men held by the Cong
They were undergoing torture...that side thought it wasn't wrong
They used John's words...and for the men it's really rough
John F. Kerry, you're a traitor...we have really had enough

The FBI had been watchin' 'em in action
They're gettin' real scary...what's the next thing they would do?
In Kansas City would the plot gain traction
Would senators see pearly gates before the year was through?

Scott Camil had been screamin' "It's time we were votin'!
Are you with or against us...we must know where you all stand"
John told them no and gave his resignation
'Cause after all, you know, that a career had been well-planned

He's hidden the record and hoped we would not find out
But Tom Lipscomb found the story...we know what John's all about
A lesson Kerry learned is now becoming evident
If you are whacking senators, you can't be president

The FBI had been watchin' 'em in action
They're gettin' real scary...what's the next thing they would do?
In Kansas City would the plot gain traction
Would senators see pearly gates before the year was through?

Scott Camil had been screamin' "It's time we were votin'!
Are you with or against us...we must know where you all stand"
John told them no and gave his resignation
'Cause after all, you know, that a career had been well-planned

35 posted on 03/22/2004 9:41:35 AM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Hon
Interesting.

....but, but NIXON is the nexus of ALL evil in America, don'tcha know. Oliver Stone said so!

36 posted on 03/22/2004 9:42:30 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Baynative
He was at the meeting and witnessed talk of assassinating a congressional representative and did nothing to report it.

I realize that : )...I was just pointing out the fact he is trying to cover his butt by saying he resigned at that 1971 meeting, suggesting that he did not condone the actions of the group, when documents prove that he clearly associated himself with the group in 1972. If we can get all these facts out, Mr. Waffle will be toast.

38 posted on 03/22/2004 10:30:14 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Something STINKS TO high heaven.



Kerry himself has avowed no memory of QUITTING an organisation which MADE HIM A MEDIASTAR?

NOT mentioning a PLOT to assasinate our political leaders?

AND the LA Times has avoided ANY mention of it?

IF this is really true.... and I'm willing to believe it ...

This is the stake to Kerry's campaign!

39 posted on 03/22/2004 10:47:55 AM PST by RedMonqey (Its is dangerous to be right when your government is wrong)
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To: Baynative
EGADS!.


Who said "A picture is worth a thousands words...."
40 posted on 03/22/2004 10:50:54 AM PST by RedMonqey (Its is dangerous to be right when your government is wrong)
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