Anti-Firearms Letter From Berkeley

Email from Berkeley | March 18th, 2004 | "C_____ J. W______" <c_____@berkeley.edu>

[Travis McGee]

"C_____ _. W______" wrote:

I represent me only. This is a comment and my opinion.

I don't think the "foundering fathers" had AK-47 or automatic weapons on their minds when they gave American citizens the right to bare arms or when you quoted these individuals to sale your book.

To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." "What is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials. ~George Mason, 1788

"On every question of construction, let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." ~Thomas Jefferson, 1823

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms..." ~Samuel Adams, 1788

"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." ~Edmund Burke

"Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants, it is the creed of slaves." ~William Pitt, 1783

"The militia is our ultimate safety. We can have no security without it. The great object is that every man be armed." ~Patrick Henry

We give up our freedom every time we go into another country under the flag of democracy to kill the citizens of another country.

Do you think these people love their families less than Americans. Do you think they will forget. People love their families like you love your own.

Life is basic: to have food, shelter, drinkable water, medicine for the sick. Don't you think that if the world's poor had a choose they would chose to live in peace not war. Don't you think if American poor had a choice they would want just what you have, to provide for their families and enjoy the basics. Instead, we sale them guns to take their resources, we sale them war.

I am a veteran who volunteered no one had to draft me. I was born in this country and have traveled to other countries. I have had children and adult family members killed by guns. This is life long pain. It does not make you want to run out to buy a gun. That gun will not bring back one of my loved ones.

This week three American citizens were killed with AK-47 in Iraq. Do you think they may have bought these guns from the US.

It would be great if all Americans used muskets. The world would be a safer place for all of us to live.

There is a difference between automatic weapons of mass destruction on the streets and a musket in your home for your home protection.

If you are making a profit from the sale of these guns then of course your argument is for the (mass) production of these automatic weapons.

God bless

[SevenDaysInMay]

Among every elected official, every blackrobe and FLEO must soon decide if he shall honor his sworn oath of office to defend our (ratified) Constitution against enemies foreign or domestic OR if he is bought as a pretorian at war with our Constitution and its gravely serious defenders for life.

We have no "living" Constitution.

Outlaws acting under color of law are conspiring as they undermine our Bill of Rights and usurping powers with no basis in our Constitutional LAW. Anyone who declares "compelling State interests" over-rules any part of our Law of OUR Land is thusly a rogue enemy of our ratified Constitution.

Blackrobes, interpret that.

Our three branches of government are created by and consented to only under the terms of our Constitutionally ratified bilateral social contract. Despite the recent fascist criminality and conspiracies of the Congresses, President(s) Clintons et al., and numerous blackrobes, We the People and the several states reserve the power regardless of bullying proclamations by politicians to the contrary.

The Rehnquist SCOTUS is serially notoriously unConstitutional as justices are as insulting as they are ruling us without basis in law pursuant to our Constitution, from which they derive any and all of their temporary limited lawful authority over anyone. Our employees creatively and repeatedly mock the very contract which provides them a lawful forum, paycheck, and retirement

Tyranny shall be interpreted by the citizens who may withdraw consent to be governed by officious outlaws and their armed pretorian gangs, acting under color of law. What CONSTITUTIONAL LAW?

Tens of millions of citizens are taking note as we practice our civil rights, including our RTKABA pursuant to our 2nd and 14th Amendments, without asking permission from would be bullies and their pretorians whose only blustering standing is "acting under color of law".

Only one point to aim at: If a "Poll Tax" is unConstitutional, then there is no defense to any assertion that our RTKABA can be by permission only.

[JimRed]

What would you recommend as a good "boat gun" for someone sailing in foreign waters?

HARPOON means never having to say you're sorry! My surplus store doesn't have 'em, though.---- ;^)

[beelzepug]

"...three American citizens were killed with AK-47 in Iraq. Do you think they may have bought these guns from the US."

Ah, yes. Kalashnikov, a time-honored AMERICAN name.

[Travis McGee]

I have no idea how a Berkeley student, prof or staffer might have stumbled upon my website, but I like to think some subversive conservative has been planting my postcard-sized book covers on bulletin boards there.

Anyway, if she checks out Oleg Volk's "Self Defense is a Basic Human Right" site, it will be worth it. Maybe.

[packing heat]

Aaahh! The whore known as Kathleen Sebelius. Yes, she is quite a problem here. Fortunately, she didn't veto the bill according to my knowledge. All the liberals here are ragging about it. You may very well be right, but it is a step in the right direction either way.

[packing heat]

I see where the problem is now. We all assume she's talking about guns here, but she's really talking about our arms.:)

[Shooter 2.5]

Kansas does not have a license to carry. The bill was just introduced and it's still working it's way through the committees.

I would suggest you read this website for Kansas and help out so you can carry legally.

http://www.packing.org/

There's a list of legislators that have to be called.

[Gritty]

I have had children and adult family members killed by guns.

Hmmmm.

One has to wonder just what kind of a family this woman comes from to have adult and child members of her family killed by guns. Maybe she lives in a crime and gang ridden urban area?

Or maybe she's making it all up....

[Travis McGee]

"Do you think these people love their families less than Americans."

They strap bombs to their kids, don't they?

Very good point. So much for "all people everywhere are the same."

[Travis McGee]

If she's tellin the troof, they were probably offed in gang wars over drug turf.

[glock rocks]

Don't you think if American poor had a choice they would want just what you have, to provide for their families and enjoy the basics. Instead, we sale them guns to take their resources, we sale them war.

[Travis McGee]

Oh, CLASSIC! I recognize Oleg's great work anywhere!

[Trillian]

Great pic!

[El Gato]

Good Lord, what is someone who is no more literate than this letter indicates doing at UC Berkeley? Isn't there ONE major university in California that won't take these illiterates? She should be at a community college, in the remedial classes. Better yet, she should be back in fourth grade, maybe third. Blondina, my third grade teacher and my brother's fifth grade one, would never have put with a letter like that, and Mrs. Overton, my fourth grade teacher would have her student teacher all over that gal like white on rice. Sadly, Mrs. Overton and (I think) Blondina Schnider(sic) are no longer around. (Miss Schnider would fit right in an Opera wearing a brass brassier and a helmet with horns)

[Travis McGee]

I'd like to think a groundskeeper has a UC Berkeley email account, somehow...

[Squantos]

CW needs to be addressed in a fair manner to hopefully engage him/her in a open minded level of calm considerate and meaningful lesson on the 2nd amendment and the need for all American citizens to have the ability to defend themselves after being properly educated in the safe handling and use of small arms be they a single shot scatter gun or a select fire rifle of military caliber.

If that is not possible send the whining little SOB a comealong to help em pull their head outta their butt !

Stay safe !

[Travis McGee]

IMHO the best possible into is that Oleg Volk site I sent a link to her at, the one called "Self Defense is a Basic Human Right. It's very gentle and low key, perfect to "break in" antis who may be slightly open minded.

[glock rocks]

[archy]

I don't think the "foundering fathers" had AK-47 or automatic weapons on their minds when they gave American citizens the right to bare arms...

I don't think the "foundering fathers" had AK-47 or automatic weapons on their minds...

I don't think the "foundering fathers" had AK-47 or automatic weapons...

I don't think the "foundering fathers"...

I don't think...

It always helps to edit away the unnecessary verbiage.

[archy]

That's true, but then again, assuming you could afford them, every "military" weapon available was available to the general public. Cannons, for instance. I've seen old pictures and drawings of private residences with cannons in the yard, among other things. Henry Knox, the father of the American Artilery Corps, was a bookseller who learned all he could about the Artillerist's science of the day, picked the brains of knowledgable British officers, and obtained a few smoothbore cannon for his further education and use. And when Washington desperately needed a knowledgable artillery commander, the right man for the job stepped in to fill the bill.

Today's equivalent of Knox's light cannon would be mortars, light recoilless rifles up to and including those mounted on vehicles [*wagon guns* and *swivel cannons* in Knox's day] and, possibly, the new M8 AGS self-proppelled antitank gun sustem, previously known as the *Buford* and now perhaps as the *Thunderbolt.*

Knox would no doubt impressed, but not overawed, and would politely request a look at the manuals and a hands on demonstration. Those who carry on in his footsteps would do well to celebrate his July 25th birthday with appropriate test firings and public demonstrations, followed by libations in his honor after the sun goes down on that day.