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Canadians call U.S. best pal - Yanks pick Brits: Poll
THE TORONTO STAR | Mar. 14, 2004. 04:02 PM

Posted on 03/15/2004 8:04:42 AM PST by albertabound

Mar. 14, 2004. 04:02 PM

Canadians call U.S. best pal - Yanks pick Brits: Poll

MONTREAL (CP) — The best-friend relationship that Canada and the United States once enjoyed might have become more of a one-way affair.

While 50 per cent of Canadians in a recent Leger Marketing poll said the United States was Canada's "best friend," only 20 per cent of American respondents in the same survey felt likewise about their northern neighbour.

Britain, which has forged even closer political ties with the United States in recent years, topped the best-friend list for 62 per cent of Americans.

Twenty-five per cent of Canadians chose Britain as their country's best buddy.

The poll also suggested that 68 per cent of Canadians thought the two countries were very different, while 29 per cent believed they were very much alike.

Among Americans, the numbers were reversed — 61 per cent said the countries were very much alike, compared with 31 per cent who said they were very different.

The poll of 1,501 Canadians and 1,035 Americans was conducted Feb. 17-22. The Canadian numbers are considered accurate within 2.6 percentage points, 19 times out of 20, while the margin of error for the U.S. sample is three percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

One keen observer of Canadian-U.S. relations said he wasn't surprised at the findings of the two questions because Canada is not on the radar screen of the average American on a daily basis.

"The average American hears about Britain all the time," said Harold Waller, chair of McGill University's North American Studies Program.

"He hears about (British Prime Minister) Tony Blair, he's aware of the fact they fought the war together in Iraq, that they've been allies for years and years."

Waller said Canadians know a lot more about their southern neighbour than Americans do about them.

"Americans know almost nothing about Canada and Canadians," he said in an interview. "They simply assume that things are pretty much the same here.

"They don't see any Canadian TV. They don't see any programs about Canada. Canada only makes the news in the U.S. when something big happens like an election or disaster.

"Canadians on the other hand, because they know about the U.S., they're more sensitive to the differences between the two countries."

An American who follows the relationship admitted that "U.S. knowledge of Canadians is little bit limited."

But Christopher Sands, senior associate with the Canada Project for the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said Canadians may have been doing their patriotic duty in emphasizing the differences between the two countries.

"Scratch the surface, I think we're fundamentally quite similar but that's a very uncomfortable answer for a country that's sort of searching for definitions of itself," Sands said from Washington, D.C.

As for the friends angle, Sands said there is no surprise that Britain was way out in the lead among Americans.

"The American public has accepted that, post-Sept. 11, allies have to be looked at by what they do, not what they say.

"And suddenly, there's this sense that when we were in a crunch, when we needed people, Britain could be counted on."

Sands also had an interesting take on his compatriots' general knowledge of the world.

"If you did a Family Feud-style poll and you said `Other than the United States, name countries,' the average American could probably get to 12," he said. "Britain's definitely one of them. But if you ask them England against Scotland, you start puzzling them."


TOPICS: Canada; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: allyuk; nonallycanada
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To: laotzu
What do you say?

As I said, "No doubt room for improvement".

I believe we're both in the same canoe. The bow paddler and the stern paddler have different functions but they better coordinate their actions because we're in some hellish rapids with both of us in danger of capsize.

41 posted on 03/15/2004 9:15:05 AM PST by kanawa
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To: albertabound
"I guess you fall into that category that prefers to know nothing about it's northern neighbour"

Don't guess; read. Or, get someone that can read to do it for you, Eh!!.

I have provided the entire national history of Canada on this very thread.

42 posted on 03/15/2004 9:18:17 AM PST by laotzu
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To: kanawa
"I believe we're both in the same canoe."

Yes...both in the same canoe.

We paddle, we repair, we gaurd, we protect, we sacrifice; you ride, you eat, you spit on us & our children.

Yes...both in the same canoe.

43 posted on 03/15/2004 9:22:23 AM PST by laotzu
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To: albertabound
Sorry, I do not feel that we are friends, or connected, or anything. Though I do not have much contact with the average Canadian Joe, the remarks coming from your elected officials is enough for me to shun Canada and not care what you guys think about us. I see that you live under the umbrella of our protection and yet spit upon us whenever you please. It's a free world - for the most part - and you have every right to do so - rights that are provided by our military not yours. As once stated in a movie - I rather you just say thank you and be on your way!
44 posted on 03/15/2004 9:22:40 AM PST by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a 100 pounds.)
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To: quidnunc
Indeed. Bump! Canada is no friend of America. Close the border now and secure the land corridor to Alaska. And close the St. Lawrence seaway to them as well.
45 posted on 03/15/2004 9:26:44 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: albertabound
I want to know who Britain picked as their best buddy?
46 posted on 03/15/2004 9:27:43 AM PST by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: laotzu
I have provided the entire national history of Canada on this very thread.

You are a credit to your skool.

47 posted on 03/15/2004 9:29:33 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: laotzu
Insult, the last resort of a fool.
48 posted on 03/15/2004 9:29:43 AM PST by albertabound (it's good to beeee Albertabound)
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To: albertabound
You forgot all the brave Canadian souls laid to rest at Normandy.

The Canadians I've served with are outstanding, conservative individualists. Outside of the military, I don't know. Mainstream Canadian press hates Alberta and treats people from their the same way our press treats conservatives. Canadian news leads with UN stories and now Sesame Street has Kofii ANnan as the guest almost everyday.

49 posted on 03/15/2004 9:31:52 AM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids (When the going gets tough, liberals quit......thats why they can't lead us post 9-11)
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To: CatoRenasci
;^) lol
50 posted on 03/15/2004 9:32:38 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: laotzu
The shallow agendas of some are so clear.
51 posted on 03/15/2004 9:32:58 AM PST by NorthOf45
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To: albertabound
"Insult, the last resort of a fool"

A Canadian tales a stand against insult.

Now, that is rich.

52 posted on 03/15/2004 9:34:30 AM PST by laotzu
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To: headsonpikes
Did I leave anything out? Is there something you wish to add?
53 posted on 03/15/2004 9:35:25 AM PST by laotzu
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Archie Bunker on steroids wrote: You forgot all the brave Canadian souls laid to rest at Normandy.

It is not generally known that virtually all of the Canadians serving in combat during WW II were volunteers.

Because of opposition to Canada's involvement in the war Canada had no draft until very late in the conflict, and even then draftees were by law exempt from posting out of the country.

So when one speaks of Canadian valor one is only referring to some — mostly non-French — Canadians.

54 posted on 03/15/2004 9:38:49 AM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: albertabound
Canada continues to insult me, and my country.

That it angers me would be mysterious to any without a spine. Spare me your show of indignation.

What reaction, to the insults from you fools, did you expect?

55 posted on 03/15/2004 9:41:27 AM PST by laotzu
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To: quidnunc
Quid, this post does not support your theory. We did not turn our backs, preferring, rightly or wrongly to rely on the U.N as did many other nations. Surely our presence in Afghanistan should count for something. The Spanish election is just one example of how contentious support for the war on terrorism really is. Hell America itself is severely divided as is Canada. Chretien, a stupid politician, a stupid bureaucrat and a few lefty journalists should not and does not define our relationship. You know this so get over it.
56 posted on 03/15/2004 9:43:22 AM PST by albertabound (it's good to beeee Albertabound)
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To: albertabound
What reaction, to the insults from Canadian fools, did you expect?
57 posted on 03/15/2004 9:44:57 AM PST by laotzu
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To: laotzu
'What reaction, to the insults from Canadian fools, did you expect?"

Common sense posting would be nice. Anti-Canadian rants are a dime a dozen.
58 posted on 03/15/2004 9:49:35 AM PST by albertabound (it's good to beeee Albertabound)
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To: albertabound
[ Canadians call U.S. best pal ]

What do they want ?....
Canada is like France.. "They are there whenever THEY need US"..

59 posted on 03/15/2004 9:49:42 AM PST by hosepipe
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To: laotzu
Not that you're directing this question at me ... but I would ignore the "insults". The insults I've heard are from stupid politicians or individuals swayed by a biased media. Either way, they are not worth your stress. Concentrate on hurdling these issues. Like it or not, Canada is still an ally.
60 posted on 03/15/2004 9:50:12 AM PST by NorthOf45
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