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Socialists claim Spanish victory (America's allies lose)
theaustralian.news.com.au ^ | March 15, 2004 | AFP

Posted on 03/14/2004 1:40:08 PM PST by Destro

Source: AFP

Socialists claim Spanish victory

March 15, 2004

SPAIN'S opposition Socialist Party today claimed victory in the nation's general election and said it was in a position to form a government.

An official count of 77 per cent of the ballots showed the opposition Socialists (PSOE) with a clear lead.

The ruling Popular Party (PP) had 37.1 per cent of the vote and the Socialists 43.1 per cent, the interior ministry said.

The turnout stood at 77 per cent.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: psoe; spain
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To: kropcke
That would be VERY cool - Iron Maiden lovin' Conservatives!!! - Wooo-Hooo!!!

aw damn ya found me out: lol yes this is where i got it,mostly from the aces high video

141 posted on 03/14/2004 3:18:24 PM PST by MetalHeadConservative35 (I may sound insane,truth is im just fed up there is a difference)
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To: empirekin768
"At any waypoint along the path of the Grand Narrative over the course of 2500 years, you find our most important thinkers bemoaning the death of virtue, the fall of the old pure ideals, and the imminent collapse of Western Civ. It still hasn't happened you will note."

That is because in the past the nations of the west had birth rates above replacement. At least during communism, while it did challenge the west, there were not millions of communists immigrating to the west to undermine it from within.
142 posted on 03/14/2004 3:18:45 PM PST by raloxk
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To: sarasota
The good news is that they can't always tell time, as evidenced by "work accidents" caused by idiot jihadis setting their bombs to go off while on route to their intended targets.

Wouldn't that be amusing if in their glorious afterlife, they have to listen to loud, continous ticking.
143 posted on 03/14/2004 3:19:24 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Viking2002
spineless Parasite Class

the UN can save us

144 posted on 03/14/2004 3:27:00 PM PST by alrea (Kerry, the AFL-CIO and the U.N. can stop obesity and create jobs.)
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To: raloxk
Well you're right, it is different. But I would argue that it was worse and harder in the Cold War, because Marxism was an idea that up to the end was gaining increased popularity among our own people.

This struggle is intellectually, a thousand times easier than the struggle against Marxism. Marxism has always had "redeeming" virtues that play on our Western sensibilities and needs.

Radical Islam offers nothing that is attractive to Westerners. The extent of Western animosity and militancy against radical Islam will vary over time, but we will never be faced with the prospect of actually losing to it from within. Arresting Muslim immigration is a smaller task than resiting the Red Army at any rate.
145 posted on 03/14/2004 3:28:01 PM PST by empirekin768
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To: empirekin768
I don't think the people of Afghanistan have been served very well by our war there, but this morning Rumsfeld and Powell were talking about the freedom there, so maybe I've been wrong.
146 posted on 03/14/2004 3:29:02 PM PST by CalKat
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To: CalKat
Nah, we're doing the right thing there. But it's not exactly a sun-tan "bask" in the light of liberty at the moment. Looks more like a sun-burn.
147 posted on 03/14/2004 3:33:50 PM PST by empirekin768
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To: Dalan
It isn't that bad. While the socialist victory is bad news, they didn't win by a landslide. In fact, they didn't even poll a majority of the vote. Chances are, they will be voted out of power in the next election.
148 posted on 03/14/2004 3:36:17 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: Azzurri
The majority of Americans are sheeple who vote with their hearts and not with their brain. Republicans would be wiped out if the apathetic turned out to vote.

I agree. The people in this country are so wrapped up in themselves it's rediculous. Actually, it's downright scary... We have so much that is taken for granted. Someday the people are going to wake up one morning and wonder what in the hell happened...

149 posted on 03/14/2004 3:36:28 PM PST by CommandoFrank (If GW is the terrorist's worst nightmare, Kerry is their wet dream...)
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To: CalKat
95% of Europe is against war. Period. It's why they were overrun by a madman in WWII. They are cowards. It has been so for over 50 years. They are Neville Chamberlains and have not learned that appeasement does not work.

You sound as though you think appeasement with the terrorists does work. Would you prefer to treat terrorism as a law enforcement matter or a military matter?

Hint: Considering that most terrorists blow themselves up or die with the airplanes they have commandeered for their madness, just what would law enforcement do?
150 posted on 03/14/2004 3:41:23 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: CalKat
" don't think the people of Afghanistan have been served very well by our war there"


Two points:

One the war istn about the people of afganistan it is about destroying those responsible for 9/11

Secondly: Why in the world would you think the purpose of the war was the people of afganistan and why do you think they were better off under Taliban rule?
151 posted on 03/14/2004 3:43:42 PM PST by raloxk
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To: Peach
What do my thoughts have to do with the fact that 95% of the Spanish people opposed the war in Iraq?
152 posted on 03/14/2004 3:45:12 PM PST by CalKat
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To: Destro
"An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile in hopes that it will eat him last." ~~~ Winston Churchill
153 posted on 03/14/2004 3:45:53 PM PST by rhombus
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To: Destro
The next statue to be toppled.


154 posted on 03/14/2004 3:46:04 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: Destro
ISLAMIC TERRORIST WIN IN SPAIN ..WHAT'S NEW? Spain was ruled by MOORS for 749 Years too....

There will more attacks in Europe now by the Islamist, since the chicken population of Spain proved to the Terrorist, that if kill us and we will surrender to you....
155 posted on 03/14/2004 3:46:20 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: Unam Sanctam
See, I told you so: "My immediate priority will be to fight all forms of terrorism," Zapatero vowed after the minute elapsed. http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world/view/75439/1/.html
156 posted on 03/14/2004 3:46:54 PM PST by empirekin768
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To: KQQL
Would you peple relax man. Spain is not going to withdraw from the WOT. Read Zapatero's statements on terrorism. He was criticized within his party earlier this year for SUPPORTING Aznar's policies on ETA.

This is no victory for AQ, it's purely a cosmetic change.
157 posted on 03/14/2004 3:48:55 PM PST by empirekin768
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To: empirekin768
Actions speak louder than words. I'll wait and see. And anyways, the Spanish electorate have served to encourage terrorists to disrupt elections with spectacular mass murder bombings. I find the whole thing depressing and disgusting.
158 posted on 03/14/2004 3:52:14 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: empirekin768
"This is no victory for AQ, it's purely a cosmetic change."


It will be a victory if Al Qaeda thinks it is a victory.
159 posted on 03/14/2004 3:52:58 PM PST by raloxk
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Sorry to be melodramatic, but let's make sure this gets read, becuase it's very important:

 

"My immediate priority will be to fight all forms of terrorism"
- Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero , Spains next PM

 

 

160 posted on 03/14/2004 3:53:25 PM PST by empirekin768
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