TWO WITNESSES COULD END KERRY PRESIDENTIAL RUN -- "The Phoenix Project"

various sources | 3-12-04 | dfu

[doug from upland]

THOMAS LIPSCOMB STORY

Reporter Thomas Lipscomb wrote the story which is linked above in the NY SUN. It has the potential to end the Kerry presdential run.

I had a great conversation with Lipscomb a short while ago. This story was too hot for some of the majors. But Lipscomb assured me it is well-sourced and is dead on.

Two witnesses have placed John Kerry at a Kansas City meeting of the hierarchy of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War in November of 1971. At that meeting, they actually took a vote about assassinating United States senators. It was called "The Phoenix Project" and was the brainchild of Scott Camil. Kerry spokesman David Wade has denied Kerry was at the meeting.

The two witnesses who place Kerry at the meeting are Terry Du-Bose and Randy Barnes. What is very interesting is that Barnes is a big Kerry supporter and the head of Missouri Vets for Kerry. As a supporter, Barnes would certainly not make up a story that would hurt his candidate. He told Lipscomb of Kerry's attendance at the meeting.

Think of the implications. If the mainsteam media and major news networks do their homework, they may discover that a man who wants to be president was at a meeting discussing the possiblity of assassinating United States senators. That is a conspiracy. Instead of the White House, does John Forbes Kerry belong in the Big House?

Get on the phone to newsrooms and shame them into covering this story. A major mainsteam journalist returned by email in about a half hour after I sent him info. He finds it "interesting." Let's see if pursues it. He is notable enough, that if he does the story, all hell will break loose in the presidential campaign.

Note: Lipscomb is not a right-wing ideologue. He did a recent story defending Kerry over his medals. He also recently did a story in which he went after George Bush's National Guard service. He told me that he expected to find a drunken rich kid with coke up his nose. Instead, he discovered that Bush actually did more than make up the meetings he had missed and he honorably fulfilled his duty. And Terry McAuliffe knows it.

[mabelkitty]

Problem #1:
Too late for that - Kerry has already been proven a liar.
We would need irrefutable proof that he was not there.

[hershey]

Can you imagine if Trent Lott had attended that meeting? The RATS would have had him drawn and quartered at high noon in front of the Capitol.

[doug from upland]

I haven't set this to any of those you mentioned. I am hoping all of you can help.

[doug from upland]

Let's try to throw their campaign into turmoil.

[hershey]

I can see it now. Headlines revealing Kerry's murky, even traitorous past. Humiliated, he slinks off like Martha. The Wicked Witch comes on stage and accepts the nomination, and there's pandemonium in the Boston convention center. Hill is crowned as presumptive queen by the delirious press corps. She knows full well that she'd never make it through the primaries, this would be perfect for her. Most amusing really. I do hope Kerry's past comes back to haunt him big time, all the time. But, yes, I'd prefer this happening after he's nominated. And of course, the RATS could force him off the ticket if the polls found that he was a walking dead man.

[Hon]

Here are two of my earlier pieces at FR on the subject:

Was Kerry Involved In Plans To Murder 7 US Senators In 1971?
03/10/2004 7:29:58 PM PST with 42 comments  

Kerry's Group The VVAW Discussed Assassinating Seven Pro-War Senators In December 1971
02/18/2004 3:54:31 PM PST with 46 comments  

[Hon]

"Let's try to throw their campaign into turmoil."

I don't think posts like this are at all constructive.

[Steve_Seattle]

Hey, attending a meeting where a discussion of assassinating U.S. senators was on the agenda is no biggie; now, if Kerry had made a joke about Jesse Jackson eating chitlins, that would be a story. (sracasm)

[doug from upland]

Great work you have done here. This must be pursue and the press must be dragged here kicking and screaming.

[doug from upland]

You are sadly correct.

[Hon]

"This must be pursue and the press must be dragged here kicking and screaming."

Making this out to be a partisan jihad is not the best way to get the press to cover this information.

[doug from upland]

I take your point. Let us gently lead them out of the darkness and into the light. Someone has to do it.

[MeekOneGOP]

Thanks for the post, and for the ping, Pippin !

Ya'll might want to see this article and the one Doug links in the main article here too ...

[Donna Lee Nardo]

LOL! Now, I must say I see absolutely no trace of PhotoShop or any other editing software. It looks like bonifide film to me! Take that, kerry camp! ;)

[PISANO]

Hell will freeze over and the Sun will NOVA before the mainstream media/press would investigate this much less report it!!! Now if this were attributed to a Republican.........well you know what would happen!!

[hershey]

What Hill needs is a situation where she'd get lots of sympathy votes...say if she were the veep nominee and Kerry choked on a chicken bone. Think of the video, the widow Heinz being comforted, etc., etc.. The press would speak of Hill in hushed tones (but secretly, Judy Woof Woof would be thrilled to bits). The republicans would be pilloried if they said anything negative about Her Thighness. That would be her dream scenario.

[SkyPilot]

Bump for you and thsi story Doug.

Let's pray this won't be squashed by "ketchup money" like they did with his concubine Alex and her father.

[MeekOneGOP]

Kerry is a crook and a liar !! ...

[hershey]

At one point he moved five times in a year to find an open congressional seat. When his carpetbagging came out in the press, he lost.

[bootyist-monk]

Done, Done, Done and Done.

Best,
Bootyist