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(BREAKING) ARABIC TAPE AND DETONATORS FOUND IN VAN IN MADRID - SPANISH MINISTER
Reuters ^ | 11 march, 2004 | Skynews

Posted on 03/11/2004 11:38:08 AM PST by Eurotwit

Sky News just reported that a Spanish minister has just announced that an arabic tape (?) and detontator where found in a van in Madrid.


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dareisayalqueada; islamokazisatwork; jihadineurope; madridbombing; spain
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To: Dog
THE US OPERATION CODE NAMED: WINDS OF BLACK DEATH

Scary stuff.
301 posted on 03/11/2004 1:42:19 PM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit
I take it that this is the same letter that refers to the Madrid blasts.
302 posted on 03/11/2004 1:43:24 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: ZULU
Only Muslims could do such a horrific thing today.

Total BS.

And check my links in post #296.

303 posted on 03/11/2004 1:45:52 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat ("I'm Diddle E. Squat, and I approved this tagline")
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To: Eurotwit
THE US OPERATION CODE NAMED: WINDS OF BLACK DEATH

Ewww, sounds like a bio attack!

304 posted on 03/11/2004 1:45:55 PM PST by alley cat
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To: Cap Huff
Yes.
305 posted on 03/11/2004 1:48:26 PM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Dog
It is part of a campaign, one attack at a time, that will probably not end until ALL of the Islamic Middle-East is living in electrified fence control compounds.

This attack is clearly in retaliation for Spain's allegiance with Dubya as our 2nd major ally in the War on Saddam...England is probably next on the agenda.
306 posted on 03/11/2004 1:48:59 PM PST by 21st Century Man (When ambushed in a circle jerk, do an about-face & double-time it for high ground!!!)
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To: Eurotwit
Got a link to the full letter?
307 posted on 03/11/2004 1:49:39 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: All
For a long-term perspective on terrorism in Spain and elsewhere, here is a book I've found makes for interesting comparison with the MO of present terrorist operations:

BOOK REVIEW: Matthews, Tony, Shadows Dancing: Japanese Espionage Against the West, 1939-1945

Tony Matthews' book focuses on a Japanese spy network code named TO which was controlled from Spain with the blessing and cooperation of Spanish authorities including Foreign Ministers Ramon Suner (Franco's brother-in-law) and Count Gomez Jordana.

Matthews' book contains new information dug out of the U.S. National Archives, including newly declassified Magic intercepts and the book is largely based on these new findings. Matthews also turned to sources in such places as Australia, Great Britain, Spain, Japan and the Philippines to assemble the story of Japanese spy rings around the world 1939-1945.

In neutral Spain, spy masters operating under the aegis of Japan's Ambassador Yakichiro Suma controlled TO spy rings worldwide and coordinated exchanges of intelligence with the other Axis powers through Germany's Abwehr general staff intelligence agency and Italy's Military Intelligence Bureau. In neutral Portugal Ambassador Morito Morishima provided a vital link and source of intelligence for the Axis. In Germany, Ambassador Baron Hiroshi Oshima outranked both Suma in Madrid and Morishima in Lisbon, and much of the TO intelligence was funneled through Japan's Embassy in Berlin, where Oshima enjoyed a close friendship with Admiral Canaris, chief of Germany's Abwehr. Oshima then relayed TO information to Tokyo along with messages coordinating policies and operations between the three Axis powers. Japan's diplomats in Afghanistan spied on Russia, Iran and India and fed TO information into Suma's Madrid center. This pattern of diplomatic cover and use of neutral third countries and Japanese of ordinary backgrounds was repeated around the world.

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Then, as now [link], Japanese spies had assumed the cover of diplomats, businessmen, fisherman and other mundane occupations and frequently relied on the cooperation of, or the blind eyes of top officials of supposedly neutral governments. Here too is found the story of Japanese attempts to subvert U.S. politics and foment unrest among minorities with overtures to the National Association for Colored People. This practice was repeated in Mexico and in South America and was patterned after Japan's subversive activities throughout Asia.

[SNIP]

Matthews gives a fairly good summary of the historical background to Japanese espionage methods. The Japanese, like their counterparts in China, developed espionage programs by linking secret societies with ultranationalist aims such as Genyosha (Dark Ocean Society), Kokuryu-ku (Amur River Society, the Black Dragons link) and organized criminal enterprises such as Yakuza crime syndicates. [link]. Indeed, Dark Ocean and the Black Dragons supplied espionage and subversion services to the Empire in Korea in 1895 and perhaps earlier. Matthews mentions Dark Ocean founder and Black Dragon mentor Mitsuru Toyama, as well secret society links to the Japanese Kempei Tai, a functional equivalent to Hitler's Gestapo that relied upon the secret societies for manpower and support.

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In the Dutch East Indies and the Philippines, as in the U.S. and Mexican west coasts, throngs of Japanese <>fishermen pulled nets and took notes and pictures for the Empire. Japan's fishing fleets were augmented by farmers, mining engineers, industrialists and merchants, barbers, house-boys, maids and prostitutes, especially in those areas designated as part of Japan's Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. In this sea of ordinary Japanese was submerged a potent fifth column of spies, subversives and saboteurs. Matthews relates the story of French author Jean Marques-Riviere's world travels when the writer wrote of observing Japanese spy rings operating in Malaya, India, Burma, Ceylon, Thailand and as far away as Port Said, Egypt and Italian-occupied Ethiopia.

[SNIP]

308 posted on 03/11/2004 1:51:17 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Dog
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (Reuters) - A letter purporting to come from Osama bin Laden's militant Islamist al Qaeda network said a big attack on the United States was in the final stages of preparations, a London-based Arabic newspaper said Thursday.
"We bring the good news to Muslims of the world that the expected 'Winds of Black Death' strike against America is now in its final stage ... 90 percent (ready) and God willing near," the letter said.

The letter, signed by the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades, which said it is part of al Qaeda, was sent to the London-based al-Quds al-Arabi newspaper. A copy of the letter was faxed to Reuters in Dubai.
309 posted on 03/11/2004 1:52:50 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Dog
Unfortunately not. Just getting drips and drabs from the Skynews broadcast.
310 posted on 03/11/2004 1:53:44 PM PST by Eurotwit
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To: SJackson
...it should be remembered that Spain is occupied Arab land, much like the little country in the middle east.

'It" MUST be remembered, because the Jihadis won't forget, nor stop. Well...unless they're all dead.

5.56mm

311 posted on 03/11/2004 1:55:35 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe
Looks like I need to stock up on ammo.. Probably have enough already though.

Crap, I'm broke too.
312 posted on 03/11/2004 1:56:41 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Eurotwit
From another thread on FR:

Bombings

For starters the Brussels-based World Observatory of Terrorism, an independent think tank affiliated with the European Strategic Intelligence and Security Center, points to five major reasons that cast doubt on the involvement of ETA.

First, ETA generally warns Spanish authorities moments before launching their attacks in which civilians are likely to be harmed. This, obviously, was not the case on Thursday.

Second, ETA traditionally targets representatives of the government or the administration, such as policemen, the military, magistrates or even journalists who oppose them.

Third, ETA customarily selects "symbolic" targets, such as military barracks and administrative buildings. Although ETA's largest attack to date was in 1987 against a supermarket in Barcelona that killed 21 people, this was the exception rather than the norm.

Fourth, ETA always claims its attacks. Following any ETA bombing, ETA militants call in a claim to Spanish authorities. This failed to happen this time.

Fifth, ETA has never in the past carried out multiple attacks. According to some sources, at least 10 bombs were detonated almost simultaneously on Thursday.

On the other hand, these murderous attacks bear the traditional hallmark of al-Qaida: multiple bombs detonating a few seconds apart and programmed to cause the largest possible number of human casualties.

Again, according to the World Observatory of Terrorism, several elements seem to point to the "International Jihad Movement."

The "multiple targeting," reports the WOT, is the standard operating procedure of the fundamentalist Islamist movement.

Just look at the past attacks attributed to al-Qaida; the twin attacks against the U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salam on Aug. 7, 1998, the double attacks in Istanbul last year, the various attacks in Iraq and of course, the twin 9/11 bombings against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Furthermore, attacks planned to cause large numbers of civilian casualties is the preferred jihadi approach.

Spain, says the WOT, is "an acceptable target" for al-Qaida for is unfaltering support of the United States in the war in Iraq. Spain, along with the United Kingdom, has contributed troops to the war effort, and its prime minister, Jose Maria Aznar, showed unflagging support to President George W. Bush and the war effort. Aznar stood side by side with Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair at a pre-war summit in the Azores.

The Madrid bombings appear to be unlike anything ETA has accomplished in the past. French and German intelligence officers who spoke to United Press International on condition their names not be revealed say, "the Madrid attacks are far too sophisticated to be the work of ETA. There was too much logistics involved for this to be the work of ETA."

Several Islamist movements were traced to Spain, and some were apprehended and dismantled, intelligence officials reported. The Brussels think tank further stated in a previous report that Spain was "classified in eighth position on the list of Western countries most threatened by the jihadist movement."

"We underlined that the countries participating in the coalition in Iraq -- including Spain -- could expect to be the target of Islamic attacks," said Claude Moniquet of the WOT.

Another reason why it does not appear to make sense that ETA would be behind these attacks is that the Basque separatist movement already suffers from a lack of popular sympathy. If proof of these murderous killings were to be tied to ETA, the group would stand to loose even more support, without which it would have a hard time sustaining itself politically. Even the Basque population would reject such thoughtless killings and would begin to distance themselves from the group. Of this, the ETA leadership is well aware.

313 posted on 03/11/2004 1:56:56 PM PST by BushMeister
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"Damn, those Basques are cunning! "

...cunning Basquerds...

314 posted on 03/11/2004 1:56:59 PM PST by hoot2
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Two ETA operatives do not an ETA plot make.

As I said, some renegade ETA members have been involved, but I am confidant that with time, and as this report indicates, the money, brainpower, direction and most, if not all of the manpower came from those lunatics in Al Quaida.

Al Quaida is the only organization whose main goals involve mass murder in such a horrific fashion today.

Regardless, whoever is responsible for this should be crucified. They deserve it and its the only just way to retaliate against such pure evil.

And if anyone on this post thinks this is the end of it, they are sadly disillusioned. They will try to carry out similar mindless slaughters of innocents all over the world because they and the belief system they represent are pure evil.
315 posted on 03/11/2004 2:00:09 PM PST by ZULU (God Bless Senator Joe McCarthy!!!)
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To: BushMeister
FoxNews email posted by Momaw Nadon

CAIRO, Egypt — The Arabic newspaper Al-Quds al-Arabi said Thursday it had received a claim of responsibility for the Madrid train bombings issued in the name of Al Qaeda.

The five-page e-mail claim, signed by the shadowy Brigade of Abu Hafs al-Masri, was received at the paper's London offices. It said the brigade's "death squad" had penetrated "one of the pillars of the crusade alliance, Spain," and carried out what it called Operation Death Trains.

"This is part of settling old accounts with Spain, the crusader, and America's ally in its war against Islam," the claim said.

Referring to Spain's Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, the statement asked: "Aznar, where is America? Who will protect you, Britain, Japan, Italy and others from us?"

The newspaper faxed the claim to The Associated Press office in Cairo.

The statement warned the United States that a major strike is approaching.

"We announce the good news for the Muslims in the world that the strike of the black wind of death, the expected strike against America, is now at its final stage — 90 percent ready — and it is coming soon, by God's will," the claim said.

Asked about the claim of responsibility, White House spokesman Sean McCormack said "we've seen the news reports and we're going to determine what the facts are."

The message also referred to last year's attack on Italian paramilitary police serving in the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq.

"When we attacked the Italian troops in Nasiriyah and sent you and America's agents an ultimatum to withdraw from the anti-Islam alliance, you did not understand the the message. Now we have made it clear and hope that this time you will understand," the statement said.

"We, at the Abu Hafs brigades, have not felt sad for the so-called civilians," the statement in an apparent reference to the hundreds of casualties in Thursday's attacks in Madrid.

"Is it OK for you to kill our children, women, old people and youth in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and Kashmir? And is it forbidden to us to kill yours?" the claim asked.

The statement said another Al Qaeda squad, Jund al-Quds or Soldiers of Jerusalem, had carried out Tuesday night's attack on a Masonic lodge in Istanbul, Turkey.

"All the Masons would have been killed but there was a technical fault. So because God wished it, only three were killed," the statement said.

In the attack, two suicide bombers opened fire in the lodge's dining hall, killing a waiter and wounding five other people. The attackers then detonated rudimentary explosives. One assailant died in the blast while the other was severely wounded.

316 posted on 03/11/2004 2:00:11 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Shermy
Well, I just had to look that one up. Could Osama's rage about being a failed engineer express itself at Yamasaki?

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But Bin Laden may have had another, more personal motivation. The World Trade Center's architect, Minoru Yamasaki, was a favorite designer of the Binladin family's patrons—the Saudi royal family—and a leading practitioner of an architectural style that merged modernism with Islamic influences.

Thanks; interesting. I wonder if any of Yamasaki's other designs have been targeted by AQ or other groups? Here's a list of some of his other work--I see he also designed Logan Airport. Could be coincidental, but makes you go hmmmm:

Minoru Yamasaki, world-class architect

A partial list of his works:

Urban Redevelopment Plan, St. Louis, 1952

Gratiot Urban Redevelopment Project, Detroit, 1954

University School, Grosse Pointe, 1954

U.S. Consulate, Kobe, Japan, 1955

Pruit-Igoe Public Housing, St. Louis, 1955

Lambert-St.Louis Airport Terminal, 1956

McGregor Memorial Conference Center, Wayne State University, Detroit, 1958

Reynolds Metals Regional Sales Office, Southfield, 1959

Michigan Consolidated Gas Co., Detroit, 1963

U.S. Pavilion, World Agricultural Fair, New Delhi, India, 1959

Dhahran Air Terminal, Dhahran Saudi Arabia, 1961 Federal Science Pavilion, Seattle World's Fair, 1962

Queen Emma Gardens, Honolulu, 1964

North Shore Congregation Israel, Glenco, Ill., 1964

Northwestern National Life Insurance Co., Minneapolis, 1964

Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, Princeton University, 1965

Century Plaza Hotel, Los Angeles, 1966

IBM Office Building, Seattle, 1964

Manufacturers and Traders Trust Co., Buffalo, 1967

World Trade Center, New York, 1976

Eastern Airlines Terminal, Logan International Airport, Boston, 1969

Horace Mann Educators Insurance Co., Springfield, Ill., 1979

Temple Beth El, Birmingham, 1974

Century Plaza Towers, Los Angeles, 1975

Colorado National Bank, Denver, 1974

Bank of Oklahoma, Tulsa, 1977

Performing Arts Center, Tulsa, 1976

Rainer Bank Tower, Seattle, 1977

Federal Reserve Bank, Richmond, Va., 1978

Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency Head Office, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 1981

Founder's Hall, Shinji Shumeikai, Shiga Prefecture, Japan, 1982

Eastern Province International Airport, Saudi Arabia, 1985

317 posted on 03/11/2004 2:00:52 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Monty22
Crap, I'm broke too.

Bummer. I've been there and done that. It sux.

May you have good fortune after my post to you.

8^)

5.56mm

318 posted on 03/11/2004 2:02:23 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Fedora
I believe Carlos "the Jackal" is spending the rest of his days in a French prison.
319 posted on 03/11/2004 2:05:41 PM PST by virtude
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To: ZULU
Two ETA operatives do not an ETA plot make.

Huh?

You said only muslims could have done this bombing. Perhaps AQ is involved, that would be my guess. But you're just throwing out hyperbole when you say that only muslims could pull off heinous murders, terrorism, and atrocities. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and a host of others were not muslims.

320 posted on 03/11/2004 2:06:54 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat ("I'm Diddle E. Squat, and I approved this tagline")
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