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Senate race looking like it’ll be hotly-contested (GA)
The Newton Citizen ^ | March 8, 2004 | Bill Shipp

Posted on 03/08/2004 2:09:33 PM PST by beaureguard

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Have to read about 3/4 of the article, but Shipp is noticing Herman Cain now. Cain is making an impression.
1 posted on 03/08/2004 2:09:34 PM PST by beaureguard
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To: beaureguard; Veritas_est; eyespysomething
Herman Cain ping!
2 posted on 03/08/2004 2:10:47 PM PST by beaureguard (Herman Cain for Senate!)
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To: beaureguard
He even opposed the main farm bill to re-establish programs to supply payments to farmers when commodity prices fall below a specific level. He voted against billions for agriculture research, much of which would have gone to UGA and other Georgia schools.

Well, he has done a few things I aprove of anyway.

So9

3 posted on 03/08/2004 2:12:25 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: beaureguard
Yeah....Bill Shipp.....mmmhmmm....
4 posted on 03/08/2004 2:17:55 PM PST by sirshackleton
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To: beaureguard
Mr. Herman Cain is easily the best candidate in the bunch. He is an outstanding speaker. He is an excellent fund raiser. He is capable of going toe to toe with the most ardent of liberals and he destroyed one of clinton's town halls with just such a confrontation.

Besides, a vote for Cain assuages the guilt of some Republicans who feel uncomfortable with the racist label sometimes applied to the Georgia GOP.

The democrat shill who wrote this deserves to have his lights punched out for this little bit of propaganda. Ask this guy which party were the Georgia senators from who voted for segregation for a hundred years?

Regards,

TS

5 posted on 03/08/2004 2:19:00 PM PST by The Shrew (RightTalk - The New NPR)
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To: beaureguard
GO HERMAN!
6 posted on 03/08/2004 2:19:50 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Just another freeping ultrakonservativen)
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To: beaureguard
It's that racist guilt that's driving Cain's candidacy. Not his vocal and in your face conservatism and refusal to be mealy mouthed when asked a question.

I heard him on the Micheal Medved show and Mr. Cain is the type of person I wish I had representing me.
7 posted on 03/08/2004 2:41:33 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ( I went to the gun show today and saw an Sharpton for President sticker on a truck. Seriously dude.)
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To: beaureguard
It's that racist guilt that's driving Cain's candidacy. Not his vocal and in your face conservatism and refusal to be mealy mouthed when asked a question.

I heard him on the Micheal Medved show and Mr. Cain is the type of person I wish I had representing me.
8 posted on 03/08/2004 2:41:44 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ( I went to the gun show today and saw an Sharpton for President sticker on a truck. Seriously dude.)
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To: beaureguard
Bull Shipp?

He is such a skunk.

In every poll, Isakson leads.

What polls? I think I've seen one, maybe two, the last one in November!

But after untangling the mess, it seems like Bill Shitt is getting concerned about the fate of his boy Isakson.

9 posted on 03/08/2004 2:57:07 PM PST by JohnnyZ (People don't just bump into each other and have sex. This isn't Cinemax! -- Jerry)
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Isakson and Collins won't debate Herman Cain.

They know they couldn't stand up to him.

Did you know Isakson was ranked lower than John Lewis in 2000 by the Gun Owners Association of America? He was on par with Cynthia McKinney. Hmmm.

Bill Shipp is a mealy mouthed blowhard who yearns for Barnes to fawn over.
10 posted on 03/08/2004 3:16:38 PM PST by eyespysomething (A Communist is a Liberal in a hurry!)
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Cain is running a smart campaign.He is running radio ads right now in S.Ga. The rural vote will warm up to him before they find out he is black.He has a future in Ga. politics but I suspect this will be Isacson's year.He is building a strong coalition.He appears to have neutralized the Christian Coalition and in effect seems to have a great deal of support among their leaders.
11 posted on 03/08/2004 3:29:32 PM PST by Blessed
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To: beaureguard
Besides, a vote for Cain assuages the guilt of some Republicans who feel uncomfortable with the racist label sometimes applied to the Georgia GOP.

The usual bigoted garbage- if Mr. Cain runs- for any post- I'll walk through fire to vote for him, because he's a good man with good ideas, and we sorely need these at every level of government.

FWIW, Collins & Isakson are tired old retreads.

12 posted on 03/08/2004 3:50:46 PM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: beaureguard; All
Mr. Shipp, true to form, trying to slip in a few bits of slime. He often disguises it as an editorial.

If his scenario happens (in which Cain meets Isakson in a runoff), Cain will beat Isakson hands down.

He appears to be assuming that Collins is making a mistake by not attacking Cain as well.

What he seems to be missing is the very real possibility that Cain could come in first on July 20. I doubt that he can win it outright without a runoff, but the likelihood of Isakson having to play catch up in a runoff is not as far removed as Mr. (liberal) Shipp thinks.

The "Cain Train" is on track and gaining momentum.

ALL ABOARD!

13 posted on 03/08/2004 4:34:25 PM PST by Veritas_est (Truth is)
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Iskason's advantage is that his base is the Atlanta suburbs. This is where the traditional GOP primary voters are. Mac Collins and Herman Cain are trying to attract people who don't normally vote in GOP primaries but have voted for GOP candidates in the general election.
14 posted on 03/08/2004 8:22:33 PM PST by Kuksool
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Oh I dunno, I think Isakson has managed to coopt quite a bit of conservative support this time around. Some of the Christian conservatives have sold out to him, and he even has endorsements from people like Mack Mattingly.

It seems a lot of people are willing to settle this time around, since it's "Johnny's turn".

It's going to take a very strong appeal to the rank and file to beat him in the primary.

15 posted on 03/08/2004 8:27:51 PM PST by JohnnyZ (People don't just bump into each other and have sex. This isn't Cinemax! -- Jerry)
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It seems a lot of people are willing to settle this time around, since it's "Johnny's turn".

There is some truth to this statement. However, I think the rank and file are a bit tired of that reasoning. They have seen it backfire too many times. It would still probably work though if this race was just between Isakson and Collins. What it doesn't take into consideration is the Cain dynamic.

It's going to take a very strong appeal to the rank and file to beat him in the primary.

And this is just the dynamic I am speaking of. I believe Herman Cain will appeal to the rank and file who are ready for a man who isn't perceived as a part of the problem, a man who is a problem solver and not just a politician. Just the same, I will be happy for a strong second place and a runoff. I'm just not ready to rule out the possibility of a big upset.

Just a few weeks ago Cain was seen as a distant third place. While it's true that I don't have actual statistics to back it up, it is my opinion that Cain has at least overtaken Collins, and maybe even passed him. I base this partly on the fact that Cain has raised more funds than either Isakson or Collins in the last few months, and on several media sources which have expressed surprise that Cain is doing so well. They are finally recognizing that Cain is indeed a viable candidate. Bill Shipp is just one case in point.

Certainly Isakson and Collins are taking him seriously, since both of them refuse to participate in a debate which includes Herman Cain.

Get on board the "Cain Train"! Swing on board while you can 'cause there's no slowing down now!

"I hear that train a comin'
It's comin' round the bend."

16 posted on 03/09/2004 12:53:58 AM PST by Veritas_est (Truth is)
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To: NewLand
Herman Cain ping!
17 posted on 03/09/2004 5:18:44 AM PST by beaureguard (Herman Cain for Senate!)
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My husband went to a Collins event last night, and he said while the guy is nice, and a conservative, he ain't got no fire.

Isakson is a concern, but not a huge one, and one that can be overcome.
18 posted on 03/09/2004 5:33:16 AM PST by eyespysomething (A Communist is a Liberal in a hurry!)
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To: Veritas_est
>Certainly Isakson and Collins are taking him seriously, since both of them refuse to participate in a debate which includes Herman Cain.<

It is to early for debates.Qualifying has not even occured.No one has refused to debate.We do not need to eat our own with JFK type retoric.
19 posted on 03/09/2004 7:20:02 AM PST by Blessed
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((((( HERMAN CAIN PING LIST )))))

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Go Herman Go!

Click Here for the Herman Cain for US Senate Web Site

20 posted on 03/09/2004 5:37:23 PM PST by NewLand (PRESIDENT BUSH...YOU KNOW WHERE HE STANDS!)
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