Just curious
1 posted on
03/08/2004 1:00:30 PM PST by
AgThorn
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To: AgThorn
Only the House can file Impeachment charges then the Senate must try the accused on them.
Andrew Johnson was impeached by the House and not convicted
by the senate just as happened with the Abomination.
2 posted on
03/08/2004 1:03:36 PM PST by
justshutupandtakeit
(America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
To: AgThorn
Clinton was the forst "elected" President to be impeached.
johnson succeeded Lincoln after his death.
3 posted on
03/08/2004 1:05:00 PM PST by
Lunatic Fringe
("Fellow citizens, we cannot escape history." -Abraham Lincoln, 1862)
To: AgThorn
clinton was the first Elected President to be impeached. Johnson became President upon the assassination of Lincoln.
4 posted on
03/08/2004 1:05:11 PM PST by
The Chid
To: AgThorn
The report is correct as to Johnson's having been impeached.
"Impeachment" itself -- the passage of articles thereof -- is akin to an indictment: it begins, and describes (in the articles' text) the charges in, a trial.
The Senate either convicts or doesn't.
But one can be "impeached" without being convicted, of course, as has occurred both times.
Many people appear to believe "impeach" means "remove from office via conviction AFTER impeachment."
6 posted on
03/08/2004 1:06:27 PM PST by
pogo101
To: AgThorn
With Regard to the Radical Republicans...
Republicans were against slavery, but they were a bit zealous about punishing the South for the Civil War. Johnson was opposed to many of the Radical Republican proposals for readmittance into the United States, and as a result the Republicans looked for a way to throw Johnson out of office.
8 posted on
03/08/2004 1:06:58 PM PST by
Lunatic Fringe
("Fellow citizens, we cannot escape history." -Abraham Lincoln, 1862)
To: AgThorn
"Impeached" is like "indicted"
Both Johnson and Clinton were impeached (the House does the impeaching), neither was convicted.
The difference that many people cite is that Clinton is the first and only ELECTED president to have been impeached. Johnson suceeded Lincoln, and the articles of impeachment against Johnson were more politically based than the articles against Clinton. Clinton was impeached because he broke laws invovling fundamental principles of civil law (lie to a judge), Johnson was impeached over political activities.
9 posted on
03/08/2004 1:07:03 PM PST by
Cboldt
To: AgThorn
Johnson
To: AgThorn
Clinton was the first elected president to be impeached. IIRC, Johnson was impeached after Lincoln's death. U.S. Grant became president in 1869, so Johnson was elected president by the people. (Unlike Ford, Johnson was at least elected VP.)
To: AgThorn
Clinton was the first ELECTED president impeached
To: AgThorn
Impeachment = House = Indictment
Removal = Senate = Conviction
Impeached Presidents:
A. Johnson (Dem, TN) = #1
Clinton = #2
Removed Presidents:
0
13 posted on
03/08/2004 1:09:28 PM PST by
BlueNgold
(Feed the Tree .....)
To: AgThorn
Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton are the only two presidents who were impeached.
They were impeached by the House, but they were then not convicted by the Senate.
To: AgThorn
The standard, and true, line against Clinton was that he was the first elected president to be impeached, but that made him the second president to be impeached since Johnson (who took office after Lincoln's assassination) was indeed impeached as well.
One does not get 'impeached' by both houses of Congress. Replace the word 'impeached' with 'indicted' for a parallel to coventional courts. Then, the Senate tries the offenses for which the president has been impeached and either convicts him or does not. So the sequence - for removing a US President from office - is to be 'impeached' by the House, then 'convicted' by the Senate.
16 posted on
03/08/2004 1:10:00 PM PST by
Gorjus
To: AgThorn
Clinton was the first
ELECTED president to be impeached
And they impeached Johnson because they didn't kill him the same night they killed Lincoln
To: AgThorn
The Radical Republicans did lead to Johnson's downfall. Johnson was a "unionist democrat." He was put on the ticket in order to attract other "unionist democrats." When he succeeded Lincoln as a result of the assasination, he objected to the policies concerning Reconstruction and what was required for readmission of the Southern States into the Union. He felt what was proposed by the "Radical Republican" and inevitably enacted by Congress to be too Draconian. It's argued that this was also the view held by Lincoln prior to his death.
To: AgThorn
You're wrong. Both Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were impeached by the House (only the House can impeach .... the equivalent of indict) and acquitted by the Senate (the Senate conducts the trial).
28 posted on
03/08/2004 1:30:57 PM PST by
DonQ
To: AgThorn
Clinton was the first elected president to be impeached.
33 posted on
03/08/2004 1:34:42 PM PST by
Junior
(No animals were harmed in the making of this post)
To: AgThorn
Actually, Impeachment articles are drawn by the Lower House of congress.
If the lower house(House of representatives) votes by simple majority to impeach, the trial portion of the impeachment process is moved to the Upper House (Senate) where a 2/3rds majority is needed to complete the process, otherwise the process ends in aquittal.
34 posted on
03/08/2004 1:37:02 PM PST by
HEY4QDEMS
(Always remember to consider the facetiously challenged and use your sarcasm tag.)
To: AgThorn
the Congress actually DID impeach Clinton An impeachment is an indictment and the grand jury is the House of Representatives. The House decides if there is enough evidence to conduct a trial. They demonstrate this by voting for impeachment. The Senate is then expected to conduct a trial by reviewing the evidence and then voting whether to convict of impeachment or not.
Neither President was convicted of impeachment.
To: AgThorn
Interesting how 'cleaned up' it is, but I also noted that there were not a lot of accomplishments listed. They don't mention his support of pornography as a growth industry?
To: AgThorn
Johnson lived in Greene Co. TN. He was tried and missed conviction by one vote, that vote (IIRC) being casted by a man named Ross from Ohio(IIRC). Ross is a name common to Greene Co. and I have always wondered if there was a family connection...
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