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Who is the first Impeached President? Johnson or Clinton?
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Posted on 03/08/2004 1:00:28 PM PST by AgThorn
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To: jamaksin
To: AgThorn
Johnson lived in Greene Co. TN. He was tried and missed conviction by one vote, that vote (IIRC) being casted by a man named Ross from Ohio(IIRC). Ross is a name common to Greene Co. and I have always wondered if there was a family connection...
To: ThePythonicCow
Though Carters pardon was not specific to Clinton. From
The MacNeil/Lehrer Report -- January 21, 1977 CARTER'S PARDON:
Just a day after Jimmy Carter's inaguration, he followed through on a contentious campaign promise, granting a presidential pardon to those who had avoided the draft during the Vietnam war by either not registering or traveling abroad. The pardon meant the government was giving up forever the right to prosecute what the administration said were hundreds of thousands of draft-dodgers.
To: cvq3842
Johnson was a Democrat but he was not from the North. He was born in North Carolina and moved to Tennessee.
To: Cloud_Chaser
Sorry guys but Johnson was an elected Vice-President and when he succeeded to the Presidency upon Lincoln's death, his "elected" status stayed with him so you cannot call Clinton the only elected president to be impeached. Simple correction .... Johnson was NOT elected President. So Clinton remains the only elected president to be impeached.
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posted on
03/08/2004 2:38:29 PM PST
by
AgThorn
(Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
To: Cloud_Chaser
...his "elected" status stayed with him... He was not running for President. He was ELECTED VICE-PRESIDENT. Not President.
Clinton still has the distinct priveledge of being the first ELECTED PRESIDENT to be impeached.
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posted on
03/08/2004 2:44:25 PM PST
by
Only1choice____Freedom
(The word system implies they have done something the same way at least twice)
To: MacArthur
Lincoln's ticket in 1864 was actually a "Union Party" ticket, made up of Republicans and War Democrats. Johnson, a Democrat, had been the Military Governor of occupied Tennessee, and was rewarded with the Veepship. He was impeached because the Congress wanted to grab more and more power away from the president and had passed the Tenure in Office act; this act claimed that Congress had to approve of any firing that the president did of his appointed people. Johnson had been facing many laws that Congress had passed, and which he felt were unconstitutional.
When the Tenure in Office act was passed, he decided they had gone too far, and tested the act by firing Lincoln's old Sec of War, Edwin M. Stanton, for insubordination. THAT is the act that got him impeached. There is no question that the differing views between the Lincoln/Johnson approach to Reconstruction, which was much more lenient than the Radical Republicans (led by Thaddeus Stevens) and their Wade-Davis plan for Southern punishment. This dispute had a lot to do with the mutual enmity as well.
It was the unconstitutionality of the Tenure in Office act that led the barely sufficent minority to reject conviction of the impeachment. It was really kind of ridiculous since the trial was going on during the campaign of 1868, which ended in Grant's election. It was purely vindictive.
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posted on
03/08/2004 3:04:48 PM PST
by
Keith
(IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES)
To: MacArthur
Right. Thanks.
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posted on
03/08/2004 5:42:13 PM PST
by
cvq3842
To: KC Burke; All
"Who ..." sticky fingers ... Thank you.
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posted on
03/09/2004 2:10:58 AM PST
by
jamaksin
To: AgThorn
Sorry, left out the word "vice".
Anyway, he had been elected to that office, but not to the office of the presidency.
TS
To: TRY ONE
In hindsight, had that happened, algore would most likely be Presidente still today because GW would not have unseated him due to the mass sympathy for his ascension to the throne I like the way you put it all in balance.
Your post comment about Mr. Gore was my first thought.
Where is he today, and where is his relevance that would have carried the day had he made it to office. What is the word? GRAVITAS
Even today, we hear shots about Florida 2000. Was it close? Was it even fair?
Do you suppose we will ever get an insider report about what really happened. I know there have been some quality statistical analysis, but this is too heavy for the average person to grasp.
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posted on
03/09/2004 9:26:25 AM PST
by
Dustoff45
(Prepare for His Passion, for it is being poured out in the season for whosoever will)
To: AgThorn
More information about
Andrew Johnson. Interesting character. He stood up for what he believed in (more lenient treatment of the defeated South; tried to fire a member of his cabinet, violating an unconstitutional law prohibiting him from doing that). That's what got him impeached.
His memory deserves better than to be linked with Bill Clinton.
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posted on
06/19/2004 10:51:48 AM PDT
by
pttttt
To: pttttt
I tend to agree with you ...
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posted on
06/21/2004 9:19:22 AM PDT
by
AgThorn
(Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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