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Free Congress Foundation ^ | March 2, 2004 | William S. Lind

Posted on 03/02/2004 1:37:42 PM PST by Chapita

The Marines have landed, and the situation is not well in hand, nor will it ever be. I am speaking, of course, of Haiti, that boil on the Western Hemisphere's posterior which no plaster can ever cure. In the 18th century, Haiti was so rich, thanks to the sugar trade, that it alone provided two-thirds of the value of France's overseas commerce. Today, Haiti is so poor that the average American dog probably lives better than the average Haitian.

But I forget: just ten years ago, we solved all of Haiti's problems. Applying the neo-cons' prescription for the whole world, we sent in thousands of American troops, overthrew the "undemocratic" Haitian government and installed Haiti's Mr. Chalabi, Monsieur Aristide - the same savior who just departed, with Washington's encouragement, to the universal anthem of the Third World's elite, "I'm Leavin' on a Jet Plane." For some incomprehensible reason, democracy backed by American bayonets failed to turn Haiti into Switzerland. It's probably because we forgot to teach them how to make cuckoo clocks and put holes in cheese.

Haiti is in fact a fair test of the neo-cons' thesis, a thesis we are now putting to further trials in Iraq and Afghanistan. Their core argument is that history and culture simply don't matter. Everyone in the world wants American-style "democratic capitalism," and everyone is also capable of it. To think otherwise is to commit the sin of "historicism."

The argument is absurd on the face of it. History and culture don't matter? Not only do the failed cultures and disastrous histories of most of the world argue the contrary, so does our own history and culture. Democratic capitalism first developed in one place, England, over an historical course that goes back almost a thousand years, to the Magna Carta. America was born as an independent country to guarantee the rights of Englishmen. If England had possessed the culture of, say Mongolia, can anyone with the slightest grasp on reality think we would be what we are today?

While the neo-cons' thesis says nothing about reality, it says a great deal about the neo-cons themselves. First, it tells us that they are ideologues. All ideologies posit that certain things must be true, regardless of any evidence to the contrary. That evidence is to be suppressed, along with the people who insist on pointing to it. Sadly, the neo-cons have been able to do exactly that within the Bush Administration, and the mess in Iraq is the price.

Second, it reveals the nature of the neo-con ideology, which has nothing whatsoever to do with conservatism (as Russell Kirk wrote, conservatism is the negation of ideology). The neo-cons in fact are Jacobins, les ultras of the French Revolution who also tried to export "human rights" (which are very different from the concrete, specific rights of Englishmen) on bayonets. Then, the effort eventually united all of Europe against France. Today, it is uniting the rest of the world against America.

Finally it reveals the neo-cons as fools, lightweights who can dismiss history and culture because they know nothing of history or culture. The first generation of neo-cons were serious intellectuals, Trotskyites but serious Trotskyites. The generation now in power in Washington is made up of poseurs who happen to have the infighting skills of the Sopranos. If you don't believe me, look at Mr. Wolfowitz's book. Or, more precisely, look for Mr. Wolfowitz's book (hint: he never wrote one).

Perhaps it was America's turn to have its foreign policy captured by a gang of ignorant and reckless adventurers. It has happened to others: Russia before the Russo-Japanese War, Japan in the 1930's. The results are seldom happy.

Before we get ourselves into any more neo-con led follies, we should apply their thesis to a simple test: send them to Haiti and see if they can make a go of it, after the U.S. Marines pull out. If they can, I'll put my money in a Haitian bank.

William S. Lind is Director for the Center for Cultural Conservatism for the Free Congress Foundation


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: fast; gonaives; guyphilippe; haiti; haitian; kerry; louisjodelchamblain; marines; metayer; neocons; nrlf; rebels; williamslind
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1 posted on 03/02/2004 1:37:43 PM PST by Chapita
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To: Chapita
Haiti isn't a test of neo-con methods at all. In Haiti we took an ousted dictator and put him back in place, very different than what we're doing in Afghanistan and Iraq.
2 posted on 03/02/2004 1:39:54 PM PST by discostu (but this one has 11)
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To: Chapita
Neocons? I thought it was Clinton that sent in troops ten years ago.
3 posted on 03/02/2004 1:41:41 PM PST by FReepaholic (Never Forget: www.september-11-videos.com)
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To: discostu
Thank you for your clarity in response. I thought perhaps I had lost my mind....but you brought me back to the truth.
4 posted on 03/02/2004 1:41:56 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Chapita
Clinton's a neocon?
5 posted on 03/02/2004 1:43:05 PM PST by stands2reason (With the attacks leveled at Mel, you'd think he's a Republican candidate for President. - ladyinred)
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To: Chapita
Ah, yes...the wannabe Field Marshal is heard from again.
6 posted on 03/02/2004 1:44:06 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Chapita
The author paints Clinton's installation of Aristide as a "neo-con" thing, and sets up the straw man of "the neo-cons' thesis ... that history and culture simply don't matter" to knock down.

What the heck is he talking about? He just wants to bad-mouth "neo-cons", correct?

7 posted on 03/02/2004 1:44:13 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Chapita
fools, lightweights who can dismiss history and culture because they know nothing of history or culture.

Bet the author has no idea what he wrote here. He probably can't define history properly, nor culture.

8 posted on 03/02/2004 1:45:37 PM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Chapita
That has got to be one of the stupidest articles I have ever read in my -life-. I mean, seriously, hands down!

Clinton was a neocon?!

Chalabi bears even a -slight- resemblance to Aristide?!

Haiti bears even a -slight- resemblance to Iraq?!

What a freakin' moron.

Qwinn
9 posted on 03/02/2004 1:46:37 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: Chapita
How many years will our forces be in that pit? Bush trying for a Western Hemisphere Kosovo?
10 posted on 03/02/2004 1:46:40 PM PST by KantianBurke (Principles, not blind loyalty)
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To: discostu; Destro; A. Pole
When US go to Haiti Aristit not dictator but newly elected president...later he make himself dictator...that is where whole issue of history come in. Haiti never have elected transition of power...he who gain power stay in power not give it up unless at bayonet...like Papa Doc....you only make point of articles stronger.
11 posted on 03/02/2004 1:52:03 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: tscislaw
Neocons? I thought it was Clinton that sent in troops ten years ago.

Are you suggesting that there is much ideological difference between Clinton and some of the phoney-balooney types whom the writer is referring to under the heading "neo-cons?" If you read the context, you will quickly see that he is not referring to new conservatives. Those to whom he refers represent neither a new movement nor a conservative one.

Clinton's approach to Haiti, using American might to reimpose "Democracy" on the Haitian people, was remakably like that proposed by the Canadian expatriate, out of Yale, David Frum's proposed approach to the Near and Middle East. Frum has advocated sacrificing young Americans to the purpose of imposing "Democracy," on other peoples on the other side of the globe. Before anyone takes Frum's idea seriously--before we put one American at risk for another idiotic pipe dream--we propose sending Frum to Haiti, right off our Southern shore, to demonstrate his theories: David Frum To Haiti Project.

Can we get you on board? Wouldn't you like to see Frum try to reestablish the Clinton legacy?

William Flax

12 posted on 03/02/2004 1:53:07 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Chapita
Our first great foreign policy success was when America's founding 'neocons' got Louisiana by kicking a dictatorship out of Haiti.

President Adams used our first navy to help the revolutionaries to kick the French out.

President Jefferson allowed the French to have it back.

Poor place, kicked around since the day it was born.

Oh well, thanks to Adams ( and some in Jefferson's administration too to be fair), Napoleon realized they had to give us Louisiana if they wanted to keep Haiti.

13 posted on 03/02/2004 1:53:18 PM PST by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: tscislaw
You thought Clinton sent troops to Haiti...Hey, don't confuse the Ostrich Foreign Policy Club of deep thinkers at the Free Congress Foundation.
14 posted on 03/02/2004 1:53:44 PM PST by Moby Grape
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To: RussianConservative
He might have been elected at some point, but he was clearly a dictator by the time he got run out of town, then we put him back.

The article has no point, the comparison between re-installing Aristide 10 years ago and overthrowing Hussein last year is completely disingenuous. Aristide's ouster never had the chance to prove whether or not he'd be a dictator, only thing he got a chance to prove was that he didn't like Tyson chicken; it's been well established that Hussein was a dictator.
15 posted on 03/02/2004 1:56:34 PM PST by discostu (but this one has 11)
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To: Qwinn
Watch how long "democracy" in Iraq live...exactly one election after US leaves and Shietes take power and then extermination of Sunni begin and religious councils gain powers and Kurds say f&*k all this and go seperate.

Ask self this: 22 Arab country, not single one has elected government, not single one has free press, not single one has anything but dictator (president to life, general to life, monarch, iotola, whatever) none has freedom of religion trully open...not even US darling Arafat, who US still give monies to even as slap Israel in face for defending self.

Why? Lack of revolutions? Hardly, many revolutions, in some constant revolution...but why? Hint: CULTURE DOES MATTER...only ONE Arab country ever have all that...Lebanon...and at time it 52% CHRISTIAN...now it is shiete hole with majority Islamo...

Welcome to reality...its nasty wake up.

16 posted on 03/02/2004 1:56:48 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Chapita
William S. Lind. Any relation to that rat-boy, Taliban Johnny?
17 posted on 03/02/2004 1:59:04 PM PST by kevao
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To: RussianConservative
So we shouldn't try? That's not the American way. And in the end it doesn't really matter if we succeed in making democracy work in the Mid-East, what matters is that we succeed in making terorism fail, functioning democracies are purely icing.
18 posted on 03/02/2004 2:01:13 PM PST by discostu (but this one has 11)
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To: Ohioan
Are you suggesting that there is much ideological difference between Clinton and some of the phoney-balooney types whom the writer is referring to under the heading "neo-cons?"

What you're saying is that the author has lumped together (1) Clinton, and (2) some unnamed "phoney-balooney types", who supported the intervention in Haiti ten years ago, and is calling them all "neo-cons". That's probably true, that *is* what the author is doing. The problem is, you can't just grab a terminology like "neo-con", lump anyone you like under it, criticize them, and expect to be making a valid point about "neo-cons".

If you read the context, you will quickly see that he is not referring to new conservatives.

In other words, he's not referring to "neo-con", since that's a key part what the term means. (I'm constantly amazed by the number of people who seem to treat the term "neo-con" as an empty vessel into which they can freely pour all their perceived ideological enemies... there's a definite "I disagree with you, therefore you're a 'neo-con'" movement proliferating, and I just don't understand it.. )

Clinton's approach to Haiti, using American might to reimpose "Democracy" on the Haitian people, was remakably like that proposed by the Canadian expatriate, out of Yale, David Frum's proposed approach to the Near and Middle East.

I'm not sure I agree with that, unless you count the window-dressing of the term "democracy" as a "remarkable" similarity. Also not sure what the biographical information about (let alone your apparent fixation on) Mr. Frum is supposed to have to do with anything.

19 posted on 03/02/2004 2:02:08 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Chapita
The clinton/carter cartel installed a communist pig as dictator of haiti and now this same POS is on his way to join his fellow communist dictators in south africa. Now only if clinton/carter/jackson would just follow him to south afreica and we can always hope they learn what a necklace was to the south africans.
20 posted on 03/02/2004 2:03:28 PM PST by steplock ( Or)
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