Posted on 03/02/2004 1:18:03 PM PST by brothers4thID
The Gun Manufacturers Liability Bill just failed by a vote of 8-90. Now there are no worries about the AWB (for now!).
The critical issue in this debate became the AWB renewal. The Senate voted to add this amendment to the bill by 52-47. That is the clearest statement of where our Senate stands today. As long as a majority of the Senate will vote for such an infringement, there is nothing to lead. One must be content with not losing ground.
I will be looking for opportunities to help the pro-gun opponents of those Republicans who are challenging me to defend the Constitution of the United States with my life, my fortune, and my sacred honor. They are disgusting tyrants and should look elsewhere for sympathy if my chance to stop them arises.
"...when operating under a general unanimous consent agreement in the usual form on a bill or resolution, amendments must be germane. Germaneness of amendments is also required once the Senate has invoked cloture; in addition, any amendments considered under cloture must have been submitted in writing before the Senate's vote on cloture."
The obvious being that virtually all centerfire rifle ammo would zip through body-armor?
One battle is won. That is not the war.
How's Wisconsin CCW doing? How about rollback of the FOPA civilian machinegun ban- slipped in as a last-minute amendment.
You see the opposition backing off or moving on into new directions?
This is not over by a long shot. If you think otherwise, you're delusional.
Senate Approves Feinstein-Warner-Schumer Extension of Assault Weapons Ban
March 2, 2004
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Washington, DC The U.S. Senate today approved extending the ban on military-style assault weapons, sponsored by Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.).
The bipartisan legislation, also sponsored by Senators John W. Warner (R-VA) and Charles Schumer (D-NY) would extend the current ban on the manufacture and importation of 19 types of assault weapons (and many other by characteristic) by an additional 10 years. The ban will expire on September 13, 2004 unless Congress approves the new legislation and it is signed into law by President Bush.
This is a tremendous day, Senator Feinstein said . It was an uphill battle, but it was a battle worth fighting. The NRA went all out to repeal this legislation, and we won. I feel exactly like I did in 1993. Once in a while, when you have something in which you deeply believe, and that something is made into law and sustained, it is so elating and so important.
I deeply believe that assault weapons don't belong on the streets of our communities. The bill we drafted banned the manufacture and sale of assault weapons. It also banned the manufacture of the big clips, drums or strips, which make them so dangerous. The aim was to dry up the supply of these weapons over time -- and the ban has worked. It has reduced the proportion of banned weapons used in crime by two-thirds.
In the past few days, we've heard horror stories about the gun industry planning to put bayonet mounts and grenade launchers and flash suppressers back on the market again. This would have been terrible.
I want to thank all the Senators that voted for this amendment and all the cosponsors that helped secure victory. It would not have happened if we had not acted as a team.
I want to particularly thank Senator Warner. Senator Warner voted against the ban 10 years ago, but had the good judgment to see that the ban has worked, that law enforcement supports it, and to understand what would happen if this ban were repealed.
I also want to thank Senator Schumer. Senator Schumer was on the Judiciary Committee in the House when this came up in 1993. I asked him if he would take the bill that I had introduced and try to shepherd it through the House. He did that, which was no small accomplishment.
Now, the key is to keep the extension of the ban in the gun immunity bill. We should not go to conference on this bill, until there is a commitment that the assault weapons legislation will be part of a final gun immunity bill. We have a commitment from Minority Leader, Senator Daschle, to assure that that's the case.
The issue is now clearly joined, and I believe the overwhelming number of the American people want this assault weapons legislation continued for another ten years. At the end of the road, I hope that we will have achieved that.
Extension of the assault weapons ban enjoys broad support:
President Bush supports the extension of the ban : In April 2003, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said of the assault weapons ban, "The president supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law."
Extension of the ban is widely supported by gun owning and non-gun owning voters. According to an October poll (sample size 800) conducted for Americans for Gun Safety by Mark Penn, voters support renewing the ban by a margin of 77-21% (66-32% among voters who own guns).
Law enforcement organizations support the extension:
Fraternal Order of Police
International Association of Chiefs of Police
The Major Cities Chiefs
The National Association of Police Organizations
The National Organization of Black Law Enforcement
The International Brotherhood of Police Officers
The Hispanic American Police Command Officers Association
The American Probation and Parole Association
The ban also has broad support in the community:
National League of Cities
US Conference of Mayors
National Association of Counties
US Conference of Catholic Bishops
National Education Association
American Bar Association
NAACP
Americans for Gun Safety
Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence United with the Million Mom March
Church Women United
Episcopal Church, USA
American Academy of Family Physicians
American Public Health Association
Family Violence Prevention Fund
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Network to End Domestic Violence
National Association of Public Hospitals and Health Systems
National Association of Social Workers
Physicians for a Violence Free Society
American Association of Suicidology
Mothers Against Violence in America
Child Welfare League of America
Alliance for Justice
Legislation to reauthorize the assault weapons ban is cosponsored by Senators Mike DeWine (R-OH), Lincoln Chafee (R-RI), Carl Levin (D-MI), Christopher Dodd (D-CT), James Jeffords (I-VT), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), Jack Reed (D-RI), Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and Barbara Mikulski (D-MD).
Lists are a good thing.
You call the mandatory inclusion of a gun lock with ever firearms sale "subtle?" What in the world would you call "Obvious?"
WWIII?
I certainly don't consider the gun lock amendment "subtle", and I'm very creeped out that it got 70 votes. The CPSC oversight is very scary and a chance for real mischief.
BTW, it is already mandatory here in NY State that ALL firearms sold come with a gun lock. Elliot spitzer, I'm sure, will have fun with that one, whether he remains AG or is elected Governor.
Dossiers are better. Addresses, phone #'s, itineraries, habitual patterns ...
Lists are good but I like meat in my reading material. ;^)
The people in the tobacco business had that kind of optimism for decades.
Sooner or later, they'll find the right jury, judges, etc and suck all the life, money, and jobs out of some decent gunmaker.
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