Assault Weapon Ban extension PASSES (Senate amendment to gun industry protection bill)

C-Span ^ | 3-2-04 | Sen. Dianne Feinstein D-CA

[Atlas Sneezed]

The vote was:

52 -Aye in favor of extending the ban 47 -Nay opposed to the ban.

[Cold Heat]

If you look at Europe, Australia and other socialist environments, and then say that we are progressing in the same direction as a given fact, then yes. I would understand the fear.

But we are not like them. We will never be like them unless we allow our courts to be compromised further by slamming our own people and causing them to lose elections only to be replaced by someone much worse.

The Repubs that voted for this are the same ones that vote for all the socialist garbage. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT NEED SLAMMING!

Why is this all Carl Rove and Bush? Who is leading this little slap party! Who is guiding the emotion and focusing it on our own leadership?

Aim your weapon and take a clean shot, but make damn sure you hit the real enemy.

[yonif]

If the AWB passes and President Bush signs it, what will your opinion be on the matter?

[Joe Hadenuf]

WS, the loss of the Second Amendment is guaranteed "to cause the eventual and problematic loss of the entire pie." Check out any history book on the matter.

Exactly.

[Monty22]

"How, precisely, is a ban on assault weapons a violation of the 2nd Amendment? "

Define 'assault weapon' first, then think about it.

[Montfort]

This will be as bad as going back on "Read mY lips." The only difference is that at least the son had the honesty to tell us early on that he would sell us out on gun rights.

[rintense]

There is a world out there other than FR.

That may be so. But what world do you want to live in? The one where we fight to keep the rights guaranteed to us, or the one where people don't care.

The fastest road to extinction is complacency.

[Big Mack]

What diff will it make who picks the "supreems"? seems like some of the worst smelling ones were nominated by Repub presidents.

[cc2k]

I got through to Miller. Miller's guy wasn't sure how they were going on the final vote. I said, "thanks for voting against all the amendments, and please put me down as opposed to the final bill now."

But I'm getting all circuits busy trying to reach Chambliss. I'll keep trying. Hopefully they are getting Freeped, and not bombarded by the Brady Bunch.

[Henrietta]

"And this Republican will NOT vote for George Bush! He's toast, as far as I am concerned, if he signs this into law!"

Shhh, don't say that too loudly on this forum, or you will be denounced as a whining traitor who does not have the best interests of this country at heart.

Don't you know that your vote is irrelevant? It must be true, because Agamemnon told me so. DonaldDuke says so, too. /sarcasm

[Nov3]

I only hope enough of us stick together to wipe the Republicans out of power for the next 10000 years.

Hey braintrust 98 demos in the senate is all we need. Get a hold of yourself. Punish the guilty. If Bush signs this POS he will be giving Kerry the election and he knows it.

[spodefly]

So if the Congress passes an extension of the Ugly Gun ban, and the President signs it into law, I will know that they have deliberately, willfully, and with malice aforethought, stabbed me in the back. Any attempt by the Republican Party apologists to minimize or explain away such betrayal will, along with their previous two decades of excuses, be revealed as of no more value than the gibbering of baboons. So that's why it's a make or break issue for me. I don't vote to reelect traitors and back-stabbers.

BUMP!

[yonif]

Brilliant. If you don't get 101% of what you want, just pout, stay home, and allow the party that is trying its best to not only eliminate conceal carry but bankrupt gun manufacturers, ban all guns, and confiscate ASAP to take control of the executive branch (executive orders, federal prosecutors, ATF) and further pollute the judiciary (who'd love to completely reinterprete the RKBA.)

How will the Democrats do this if the House and Senate remain with a Republican Majority?

And how do you know the AWB will be the end of moves to ban guns, so people should just give into it?

[Lazamataz]

And since gun rights is an important issue in many house districts, I suspect that the AWB ban will lapse. Unlike CFR in which there are not 80 million people who make that an important issue.

It does not appear you will back Bush mindlessly if he lets this happen. I am startled by your response. I am pleasantly startled.

[El Gato]

Some R's in moderate states will be on the record now as voting for the extension.

There is nothing "moderate" about voting against the Constitution, unless of course the item being voted on is a Constitutional amendment. That's way it's supposed to work. The way it seems to work, is that nobody pays attention to the old rag, unless it can be twisted to further their agenda, regardless of what the words of the Constitution actually say and meant when passed.

[Dane]

If the AWB passes and President Bush signs it, what will your opinion be on the matter?

I will still vote and support him, because the demos are worse and there is a war on terror going on.

Also I am going on recent congressional history and a Schumer gun controll bill died in conference in 99.

I know that the demos are worse than the Pubbies and wish not to see a John Kerry appoint liberal judges.

[yonif]

No matter who is in power, every year government gets bigger and bigger, and it moves more to the left as well. This is inevitable.

[Blood of Tyrants]

It is not just this one issue, it is MANY issues put together that will lose my vote. This is just the straw that breaks the camel's back.

[KQQL]

As things are shaping @ this time...

W will likley lose almost all NE states ( NH will go to the wire -Leans rats @ this time)

W will also lose in CA/OR/WA/MI/WI/IL/MD/DC/HI

Also, if Kerry wins OH.........

then W has to win in PA or MN and IA..

Finally W will FL ....W 52-54% - Kerry 46-47% in Fl

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Here are the toss up states for 04.

MN,IA,PA,NM

OH,WV,AZ,NV,NH,MO

[Charles Martel]

These principled stands over bits and pieces of the proverbial pie are going to cause the eventual and problematic loss of the entire pie.

Well, what portion of the entire proverbial pie (the whole of which being intended for We The People) do you figure we should settle for?

[rintense]

But don't you think they WOULD care if they knew exactly what it meant? The average joe thinks its about money. Those educated few (and yes, those on FR) know its far worse. And just exactly who is the average Joe relying on for their information? Hmmmm... can you see the danger?