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Giuliani: Bush's dream ticket
Scotland On Sunday ^
| 29 Feb 2004
| BEN MCCONVILLE IN NEW YORK
Posted on 02/29/2004 10:24:29 AM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
Mr. Giuliani did a great job as mayor of New York, but i don't think he's right for president or vice president. It's interesting that this article discounts Mr. Cheney because of health, but in 2000, Giuliani pulled out of a Senate race because of health, but Cheney was running for VP.
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posted on
02/29/2004 10:49:33 AM PST
by
nickcarraway
(www.yadvashem.org)
To: aculeus
Gosh, what a lot of crap this is.
Giuliani would be a terrible addition to the Bush ticket, as anyone who is familiar with his pre-9/11 performance as mayor of New York would tell you. Yes, he was a very effective mayor -- but only because he was leading a city that was totally comfortable with the idea of living in a Marxist police state.
Hell -- if Giuliani were added to the Bush ticket, I would end up voting for a third party candidate in November.
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posted on
02/29/2004 10:50:34 AM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
To: aculeus
Just MHO, but I believe there is a "plot" (tin foil hat time) to try to get Bush to dump Cheney.
People reason Cheney has baggage, i.e. Halliburton, gay daughter, health issues, etc., but if Bush were to drop Cheney it would be admitting, in a sense, that all the negative talk about Cheney, and Bush indirectly, were true.
I think Bush/Cheney will be the ticket. As far as the 2008 election, if the issue is to have an incumbent VP run, then midway through the 2004 term, Cheney could resign for health reasons and a replacement could be named.
Personally, I think Cheney is an asset!
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posted on
02/29/2004 10:51:43 AM PST
by
dawn53
To: PLK
Whatever the scenario for 2004, I do NOT want to see Dick Cheney on the GOP ticket. Cheney's got to go!
To: jocon307
Rudy cannot be added to the Bush ticket as a "successor" candidate for 2008, for a number of reasons even aside from his political views. Consider the following:
1. The U.S. has never elected a bald president since the dawn of the "television era" in politics.
2. This country will never elect a candidate with a speech impediment to the White House, either.
3. This country will never elect a New Yorker of Italian descent to the White House.
In fact, Giuliani stacks up so miserably in all these areas that any political strategist who even thinks of him as a winning candidate is out of his mind.
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posted on
02/29/2004 10:54:15 AM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
To: aculeus
This is a Left-Wing trap. Sure, Rudy Giuliani would be a very attractive candidate: he would draw in a lot of "moderates", and he could even help GWB squeak out a victory in New York. Granted, that's a long shot at best, but he could force the Democrats to spend so much more time and money defending New York that they will be unable to go after any of the "Red" states the President won in 2000 (and, in the process, offset the popular vote differential by which the Democrats claimed to have "won" in 2000).
The downside, the "trap" part, is that by "dumping" Dick Cheney the President will be tacitly agreeing with the Vice President's critics who have branded him a "corporate crook" and the "evil genius" behind the "failed and unnecessary" war in Iraq. Plus the DNC, with the assistance of the Moby's of the world, would remind Republicans and conservatives of Mr. Giuliani's presumed "social liberal" tendencies. Many on the Right could be inclined to stay home. In the end, win or lose, the Left would get at least part of what they want by "nailing" the evil Cheney. Besides, anyone who saw Dick Cheney systematically demolish Joe Lieberman in their debate will know that he is someone who could make a John Edwards or Hillary look like the rank amateurs they are (as opposed to a Rudy, who would probably end up agreeing with a "progressive" Democrat, as often as not).
To: aculeus
Why do the Liberals fear Cheney so? Why are they so desperate that he be replaced?
Get your minds right, conservatives!
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posted on
02/29/2004 10:55:30 AM PST
by
mrsmith
("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
To: BrucefromMtVernon
Ditto.
He is not electable in 2008 and that should be enough reason for him to go.
Nothing against Cheney. That is just the way it is.
I love the idea of maybe picking up New York in the election.
To: BrucefromMtVernon
The liberals don't want Cheney on the ticket because of how weak it will make somebody who's not ready for time prime (ala Edwards) or scenile & nuts (ala Bob Graham) will appear. They also hope that if they can get Bush to dump Cheney they they can trump Bush as somebody nobody, not even Dick Cheney, can trust.
To: MAKOTHEDOG
Voters don't vote for VPs & Giuliani - of anybody - is absolutely THE WORST POSSIBLE VP CANDIDATE. Rule #1 in picking a VP is to find somebody who's willing to stand away from the limelight & due the diligence required behind closed doors & away from the public. Cheney fits this role as well & responsibly as any who've ever served in the office. Giuliani could NEVER take 2nd seat to anybody and would constantly plague the administrations with 2nd opinions and other juxtapositions that would drive the White House press secretary crazy on a daily basis.
To: aculeus; Landru; Mudboy Slim; FBD; iceskater; jla; xyz123
If this happened then I would even consider bolting the GOP in November.
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posted on
02/29/2004 11:00:09 AM PST
by
sultan88
("I went down Virginia, seeking shelter from the storm...")
To: Steven W.
probably true about guiliani. I am looking at 2008 and I just feel that the republicans need to be positioned well for that election. I feel you need to have a strong incumbant vp ( although Gore proved me wrong there ). I think there are others besides guiliani who could fill the bill.
To: BrucefromMtVernon
I understand all these frightened liberals out to get rid of Cheney.
But what in the world is your problem with him?
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posted on
02/29/2004 11:06:34 AM PST
by
mrsmith
("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
To: MAKOTHEDOG
This article will give the hardcore conservatives heartburn. I doubt Bush will dump Cheney, but i do think a Bush/rudy or Bush/McCain ticket will be a landscape altering event. Bush may need this if Kerry pick Bayh or Breaux as veep.
Cheney maybe the favorite of the hardcore conservatives, but if Bush is losing the independents, he is toast. There are just not enough conservatives to help in swing states like PA, Ohio, Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan if the independents in these states going against Bush. If Bush loses Ohio and fail to pickup PA, it will be a very long hill climb for him this fall.
The real dream ticket for the independents will be Bush/Powell follow by Bush/Rudy then Bush/McCain. Still think a Bush/McCain play is possible and wow, that sure will get the media going ga ga..
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posted on
02/29/2004 11:15:49 AM PST
by
FRgal4u
To: dawn53
Just MHO, but I believe there is a "plot" (tin foil hat time) to try to get Bush to dump Cheney. The Dems and their henchmen in the liberal media have been trying to trick Bush into dumping Condi, Rummy, Colin, and Cheney since the start of this administration. Dumping Cheney - or any of the others - would be tantamount to an admission of wrongdoing and bad leadership. The Dems would ride it all the way to victory in the election. I don't think President Bush will fall into this trap. (Remember when all of Washington was calling for Condi's resignation - because it's hard to paint Bush as a bigot when he relies on and deeply respects the talents of a beautiful, brainy black woman - Bush's response was to pull Condi closer, figuratively speaking)
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posted on
02/29/2004 11:15:50 AM PST
by
Spotsy
(Bush-Cheney '04)
To: aculeus
Unless Bush does a last minute flipflop, which would really piss off his conservative base, or unless Cheney gets seriously ill and can't go on, it will remain the GOP team of Bush Cheney this November. And that's a winning ticket in my book.
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posted on
02/29/2004 11:25:27 AM PST
by
Reagan Man
(The choice is clear. Reelect BUSH-CHENEY in 2004)
To: Hand em their arse
We like Rudy here in the south too.....he showed true leadership and just plain guts during and after Sept. 11th....and sometimes guts is enough.And hell, as VP he doesn't dictate policy anyway.
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posted on
02/29/2004 11:31:27 AM PST
by
Gringo1
(All contents of this post may be contrived,made-up,or just plain not true at all.)
To: aculeus
Gads! They're still trying to get rid of Cheney. One test of how effective Cheney is as an Anti-Dem is the amount of time they spend trying to convince Republicans that anybody would be better than Cheney for the VP slot.
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posted on
02/29/2004 11:33:15 AM PST
by
livius
To: aculeus
No no no..
We need to save Rudy for the NY Senate in 2006! He's the only one who can save us from Hitlary!
Rudy could beat her in a landslide and secure her to the sidelines in the 2008 Presidential campaign!
Bush needs to keep Cheney or go with Rice if Cheney decides not to run.
Could you see Condi Rice at Edwards in a debate? That would be a hoot!!
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posted on
02/29/2004 11:35:42 AM PST
by
TonyWpi
(Support a National Holiday for Mary Jo Kopechne's Birthday!!)
To: Hand em their arse
"Rudy is way to liberal"--Guess what, it's a whole new day out there. Remember Arnold? Conservatives have to think "win" instead of stay the course. Listen to Rush--Win first and then go for ideals.Conservative ideals under a demonrat admistration fall short. Rudy can knock off bubbas wench that is really the whole ballgame, the restcan be debated.
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