Amendments to Gun Mfrs Liability Protection Act (Expanded AP Bullet Amendment is a Killer)

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[Blood of Tyrants]

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Amendments For S.1805

1. S.AMDT.2617 to S.1805 To extend and expand the Temporary Extended Unemployment Compensation Act of 2002, and for other purposes.

Sponsor: Sen Cantwell, Maria [WA] (introduced 2/25/2004)      Cosponsors: 14
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Amendment SA 2617 ruled out of order by the chair.

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2. S.AMDT.2618 to S.1805 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.

Sponsor: Sen Campbell, Ben Nighthorse [CO] (introduced 2/25/2004)      Cosponsors: 1
Latest Major Action: 2/25/2004 Senate amendment submitted

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3. S.AMDT.2619 to S.1805 To expand the definition of armor piercing ammunition and to require the Attorney General to promulgate standards for the uniform testing of projectiles against body armor.

Sponsor: Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: (none)
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment proposed (on the floor)

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4. S.AMDT.2620 to S.1805 To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to require the provision of a child safety device in connection with the transfer of a handgun and to provide safety standards for child safety devices.

Sponsor: Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: (none)
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2620 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 70 - 27. Record Vote Number: 17.

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5. S.AMDT.2621 to S.1805 To clarify the definition of qualified civil liability action, and for other purposes.

Sponsor: Sen Daschle, Thomas A. [SD] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 2
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2621 agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote.

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6. S.AMDT.2622 to S.1805 To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to require the provision of a child safety lock in connection with the transfer of a handgun.

Sponsor: Sen Kohl, Herb [WI] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: (none)
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2622 agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote.

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7. S.AMDT.2623 to S.1805 To amend title 18, United States Code, to exempt qualified current and former law enforcement officers from State laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed handguns.

Sponsor: Sen Campbell, Ben Nighthorse [CO] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 7
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment proposed (on the floor)

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8. S.AMDT.2624 to S.1805 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.

Sponsor: Sen Warner, John W. [VA] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: (none)
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment submitted

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9. S.AMDT.2625 to S.1805 To regulate the sale and possession of armor piercing ammunition, and for other purposes.

Sponsor: Sen Frist, Bill [TN] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 1
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment proposed (on the floor)

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10. S.AMDT.2626 to S.1805 To make the provisions of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 permanent.

Sponsor: Sen Frist, Bill [TN] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 1
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Proposed amendment SA 2626 withdrawn in Senate.

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11. S.AMDT.2627 S.1805 To exempt lawsuits involving a shooting victim of John Allen Muhammad or Lee Boyd Malvo from the definition of qualified civil liability action.

Sponsor: Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. [MD] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 4
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment not agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2627 not agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 40 - 56. Record Vote Number: 20.

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12. S.AMDT.2628 to S.1805 To exempt any lawsuit involving a shooting victim of John Allen Muhammad or John Lee Malvo from the definition of qualified civil liability action that meets certain requirements.

Sponsor: Sen Frist, Bill [TN] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 1
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2628 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 59 - 37. Record Vote Number: 19.

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13. S.AMDT.2629 to S.1805 To protect the rights of law enforcement officers who are victimized by crime to secure compensation from those who participate in the arming of criminals.

Sponsor: Sen Corzine, Jon [NJ] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 5
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment not agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2629 not agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 38 - 56. Record Vote Number: 22.

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14. S.AMDT.2630 to S.1805 To protect the rights of law enforcement officers who are victimized by crime to secure compensation from those who participate in the arming of criminals.

Sponsor: Sen Frist, Bill [TN] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 1
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2630 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 60 - 34. Record Vote Number: 21.

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[Blood of Tyrants]

Kennedy's amendment 2619 is a deal breaker as it would literally outlaw every rifle cartride in the entire country. Sorry, no links. Please go to http://thomas.loc.gov/ and search for S 1805 and then click on "Bill Summary & Status" at the top.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Heads up. Most of the amendments are neutral or even unrelated to the Second Amendment. However, the redediniton of "armor piercing" would effectively disarm us and is a deal breaker under ANY circumstances.

[Joe Brower]

A must read. Clip and save.

[risk]

False utility: Guns that kill must be outlawed, otherwise we won't be safe.

[wysiwyg]

12. S.AMDT.2628 to S.1805 To exempt any lawsuit involving a shooting victim of John Allen Muhammad or John Lee Malvo from the definition of qualified civil liability action that meets certain requirements.

Why didn't they just title it for what it is, the Sue Bushmaster Until They Are Out-Of-Business Amendment. Cripes -- and Frist is supposed to be on our side.

[G L Tirebiter]

What is up with Frist and these amendments? Can't these guys ever pass a clean bill on anything other than renaming a post office?

[Blood of Tyrants]

If you look at wat was originally proposed, "S.AMDT.2627 to S.1805 To exempt any lawsuit involving a shooting victim of John Allen Muhammad or John Lee Malvo from the definition of qualified civil liability action" and compare it to S.AMDT.2628, which added the words "that meets certain requirements" so that it doesn't give the victims )and lawyers) unlimited power to sue and basically places the same standards on it as all other lawsuits.

You can look at the roll call vote for 2627 and 2728 and see that basically they are mirror reverse of each other with the anti-gun senators for the first amendment with no limitations and the pro-gun senators for the second. Besides, Senator Craig, who wrote and introduced S1805, co-sponsored it and I trust him on this one.

[Blood of Tyrants]

No, they can't. Besides, there is nothing in the Constitution from preventing it. However, Tennessee has a consttutional provision that PROHIBITS amending a bill with anything not directly related to the main bill and it also prohibits more than one subject being addressed in one bill.

We have found that it works really well to keep them from sneaking in unwanted or unpopular legislation.

[Indie]

Time to add a few more boxes to my arsenal.

[Blood of Tyrants]

You can never have too much ammo.

[ClintonBeGone]

to exempt qualified current and former law enforcement officers from State laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed handguns.

Why should LEO's with bad behavior off duty be exempt from the provisons of the law that prohibit lawbreakers from possessing firearms? Shouldn't they be held to an even higher standard than your average Joe?

[ClintonBeGone]

To exempt any lawsuit involving a shooting victim of John Allen Muhammad or John Lee Malvo from the definition of qualified civil liability action that meets certain requirements. Sponsor: Sen Frist, Bill [TN] (introduced 2/26/2004) Cosponsors: 1 Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2628 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 59 - 37. Record Vote Number: 19.

Thanks Frist, you're a real hero to gun owners and manufacturers :(

[ClintonBeGone]

We have found that it works really well to keep them from sneaking in unwanted or unpopular legislation.

I wish they had those same rules in Congress. They would be VERY helpful.

[realpatriot71]

Kill two birds with one stone - keep the money rolling in, without any "speed bumps" for the arms manufacturers (as if a world-wide war on terror isn't keeping business busy), while at the same time disarming the population at large.

If Bush signs this piece of garbage into legislation, can there be any doubt about his goal? Think about it.

[Blood of Tyrants]

It isn't necessarily bad behavior that prohibits off duty police officers from CC. Some cities and counties prohibit ANYONE except on-duty LEO's from carrying a concealed weapon.

Since I believe that ALL gun laws are unconstitutional, this one is DOUBLY so since it violates both the 2nd and 10th Amendments.

[B4Ranch]

Have you read this yet?

NRA Director Sen. Larry Craig's Ammunition Ban Amendment

I need you to tell me again why you trust Sen. Larry Craig as OUR savior.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

Ammended to death, and bush asked for a clean bill? Oh well, the slimes of New York and the left coast will do it in.

The pubs have no concept of how to fight the culture war, or, perhaps they are the true enenmy in drag as conservatives and protectors of the people.?

[Blood of Tyrants]

Read my post #7 above. The words "that meets certain requirements" at the end basically neuter the amendment. If you don't believe me, look how they voted on both amendments.

[cc2k]

wysiwyg wrote:

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12. S.AMDT.2628 to S.1805 To exempt any lawsuit involving a shooting victim of John Allen Muhammad or John Lee Malvo from the definition of qualified civil liability action that meets certain requirements.

Why didn't they just title it for what it is, the Sue Bushmaster Until They Are Out-Of-Business Amendment. Cripes -- and Frist is supposed to be on our side.

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As Blood of Tyrants pointed out, this one had some qualifications that the Mikulski amendment on the same topic didn't have.

This amendment worries me the most of what has passed so far. Any victim of a crime, or any family of a crime victim, could make a 14th amendment claim that they are "similarly situated" to the victims of Muhammad and Malvo, and could probably convince a judge to allow a similar lawsuit. That could gut the entire law and leave manufacturers and dealers with little or no protection from this law.

Disclaimer: I haven't read the actual text of the Frist version of this amendment that passed.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Larry Craig didn't amend it. Ted Kennedy did. There is some motive for blaming this on Craig that we are unaware of.