WAKE UP FREEPERS! GUN LOCK AMENDMENT ATTACHED - AND IT'S WORSE THAN THE AW BAN!

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[RockChucker]

Senator Barbara Boxer's amendment to the Gun Manufacturers Liability Bill (still pending) has passed.

Her amendment mandates (according to what was stated during debate) that guns MUST, by force of Federal Law, be locked when stored in a home.

If you don't properly lock your guns, you pay $2,500 fine and lose your right to own firearms.

[Richard-SIA]

I have the full text, but I was only able to get it as a PDF and do not know how to convert it into a document that can be posted here!

[dvan]

I'd love to call MY Senator! But unfortunately Babwa Boxer and Finediane are CA's senators! Damn!!!

[archy]

How is this different than the trigger locks that are sold with guns today? Is this saying they have to be built in?

The amendment directs the Consumer Product Safety Commission to establish a consumer product safety standard for locking devices.”

[longtermmemmory]

Then oppressive "devisces" would be a denial of the keep part of keep and bear arms.

Upon consideration, I see it as a back door to absurd"smart" guns.

[longtermmemmory]

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_108_2.htm


00022 26-Feb S. 1805 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2629 Rejected Corzine Amdt. 2629; To protect the rights of law enforcement officers who are victimized by crime to secure compensation from those who participate in the arming of criminals.
00021 26-Feb S. 1805 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2630 Agreed to Frist Amdt. No. 2630; To protect the rights of law enforcement officers who are victimized by crime to secure compensation from those who participate in the arming of criminals.
00020 26-Feb S. 1805 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2627 Rejected Mikulski Amdt. No. 2627; To exempt lawsuits involving a shooting victim of John Allen Muhammad or Lee Boyd Malvo from the definition of qualified civil liability action.
00019 26-Feb S. 1805 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2628 Agreed to Frist Amdt. No. 2628; To exempt any lawsuit involving a shooting victim of John Allen Muhammad or John Lee Malvo from the definition of qualified civil liability action that meets certain requirements.
00018 26-Feb S. 1805 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2617 Rejected Motion To Waive CBA Cantwell Amdt. No. 2617; To extend and expand the Temporary Extended Unemployment Compensation Act of 2002, and for other purposes.
00017 26-Feb S. 1805 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2620 Agreed to Boxer Amdt. No. 2620 As Amended; To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to require the provision of a child safety device in connection with the transfer of a handgun and to provide safety standards for child safety devices.
00016 25-Feb S. 1805 On the Motion Agreed to Motion To Invoke Cloture On The Motion To Proceed To S. 1805 ; Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act

[IGOTMINE]

Soverign Domain. You can't sue the government unless they say you can.

I called Hatch's office today giving them an idea for an amendment to this bill...that the government waive soverign domain in the circumstances you describe.

[Don Joe]

But I keep a gun in my bedroom... dammit, keep the government out of the bedroom!

But, is it a same-sex gun? You do realize that "special" rights only accrue to "special" classes, don't you?

As luck would have it, I'm out of luck. You see, I'm a male, but my firearm is of the female... "configuration". Now, the ammunition it uses is of the "male"-type, but I don't see any reference to ammunition in this legislation.

[potlatch]

Good post, Meek, from another Texan. When my husband is out of town I keep a gun near me, and I darn sure 'ain't' going to have it locked!!

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

BUSH THIS ONE NEEDS A VETO.

I'm not sure how much we can rely on a Bush veto. Saying "Bush veto" is like saying "cold heat" or "fat anorexic." Write your senatrixes if you have not already done so...

[Beck_isright]

"BUSH THIS ONE NEEDS A VETO."

Bush is signing it, the WH said so today. The betrayal continues.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

This evil, vicious locking requirement amendment could make many crime victims out of innocent gunowners. Down with the entire bill!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Johnny_Cipher]

Why is this a problem?

Because this is not "commerce among the several states". It is, in nearly all cases, commerce between you and your local gun dealer.

When you have incontrovertible proof that the metal (and the ore the metal came from), screws, plastic, machine tools, bluing compound, smelter, Parkerizing equipment, skilled workers, trucks, mail service, telephone service, electrical service, gas service, etc. that comprise and/or are needed to manufacture a firearm all come from the same state, then you might have a valid beef. Realistically, some part of every manufactured product originates either directly or indirectly in "the several states". No man is an island, nor is any manufacturer.

[Don Joe]

Why so many special rights for the police?

Why don't civilans have the same rights to sue those who are indirectly responsible for their suffering?

Please no lectures on "the police are civilians", because when laws like this see light of day, that is clearly no longer the case.

[Don Joe]

Bush is signing it, the WH said so today.

You know that stupid disco song, "Rubber Band Man"? Well, someone needs to write some new lyrics, and title it, "Rubber Stamp Man".

[El Gato]

Try 106th Congress S.254 (Violent and Repeat Juvenile Offender Accountability and Rehabilitation Act of 1999)Title X (Safe Handgun Storage and Child Handgun Safety Act of 1999). Not sure that's it, but it seems to be. As usual, they don't put everything in one place, but bill would have required a " a secure gun storage or safety device", as described in section 921(a)(35) of this chapter, for that handgun. Still looking for the definition. Devil in the details .... All I could find was current law, which 921(a)(34) provideds: 34) The term ''secure gun storage or safety device'' means - (A) a device that, when installed on a firearm, is designed to prevent the firearm from being operated without first deactivating the device; (B) a device incorporated into the design of the firearm that is designed to prevent the operation of the firearm by anyone not having access to the device; or (C) a safe, gun safe, gun case, lock box, or other device that is designed to be or can be used to store a firearm and that is designed to be unlocked only by means of a key, a combination, or other similar means.

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But of course the new bill could remove defintion (a).

[El Gato]

The U.S. Senate voted 70-27 to require gun manufacturers such as Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. and Sturm, Ruger & Co. Inc. to sell to equip all handguns with child-safety locks.

So both the AP and Bloomberg reports read as if the safety lock must be part of the handgun, which would mean that all guns without them will have to be redesigned, and good luck getting the CPSC to approve the design. We really need to see the text of this turkey.

[El Gato]

Hutchison (R-TX)

Has always been a sucker for the "For the Children" pitch.

[autoresponder]

CT has a "SHALL ISSUE" concealed handgun permit statute


"Full Faith and Credit"


50 states +


They 'opened' the door!

[El Gato]

There was a time when seat belts were only required to be installed in cars, but not required to be worn.

Worse, before that, there was a time when anchor points for seatbelts, but not the seatbelts themselves, were required to be provided.

[Joe Hadenuf]

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