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1 posted on 02/22/2004 5:00:24 PM PST by blam
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2 posted on 02/22/2004 5:00:57 PM PST by blam
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List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.

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3 posted on 02/22/2004 5:02:48 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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http://www.ancestrybydna.com/
4 posted on 02/22/2004 5:04:02 PM PST by cyborg
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I think I go back to Aphrodite and Cleopatra....
If not, I do not want to know.... LOL
5 posted on 02/22/2004 5:04:03 PM PST by buffyt (We must never use the UN as a substitute for clear and resolute US policy. B. Goldwater)
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Four out of five men in Europe share a common male ancestor

Now that is what I call the father of a country. ;-)

6 posted on 02/22/2004 5:04:29 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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About 8,000 years ago, said Underhill, a more advanced people, the Neolithic, migrated to Europe from the Middle East, bringing with them a new Y chromosome pattern and a new way of life: agriculture. About 20 percent of Europeans now have the Y chromosome pattern from this migration, he said.

I wonder if these are the Indo-Europeans. If so, they imposed their language on the indigenous peoples. Perhaps everyone in Europe spoke an early version of Basque prior to that.

9 posted on 02/22/2004 5:06:05 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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It was'nt me. I never even met the young lady.
10 posted on 02/22/2004 5:07:14 PM PST by Dinsdale
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Four out of five men in Europe share a common male ancestor who lived as a hunter on a wild continent some 40,000 years ago, researchers say.

Oh?

Granting that the law of averages is on their side, (hunter being the most common male occupation in a hunter/gather society) there is still no way that they can state his occupation with such certainty.

Maybe he was a shaman and while all the hunter were out he was making woo-woo with the women folks.

Speculation in science is fine. When stated as fact, not fine.

Still all in all a very interesting finding. I wonder where the other 20% came from.

14 posted on 02/22/2004 5:20:37 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Yes, I know that I am overly critical and overly analytical)
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Four out of five men in Europe share a common male ancestor. . . .

Five out of five men on Earth share two common male ancestors, Noah and, before him, Adam.

17 posted on 02/22/2004 5:27:06 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Original sinner.)
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22 posted on 02/22/2004 5:44:49 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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Other paternal/maternal DNA Genealogy projects:

Oxford Ancestors

The Molecular Genealogy Research Project

Family Tree DNA

26 posted on 02/22/2004 5:53:30 PM PST by martin_fierro
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My bet is that the 20% were Celts. Does that make sense?Hmm. Would the Celts have had the same Y chromosomes as the rest of the population already in NW Europe?

Basque has no known relatives. Surely some remnant group would have been found by now speaking a related language.

Berber?

Anyway, fascinating.


29 posted on 02/22/2004 5:58:20 PM PST by squarebarb ('The stars put out their pale opinions, one by one...' Thomas Merton)
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This is the key phrase: "a more advanced people, the Neolithic, migrated to Europe from the Middle East". This is a thinly-veiled liberal attempt to do two things: 1. Dispute the Judeo-Christian tradition of man's origins and 2. To promote the idea that the Europeans (no doubt white, capitalistic, racist, war-mongering homophobes) were far less advanced that the migrants from the Middle East, who I'm sure the liberals think saved the Europeans from starvation and ruin (never mind that until the discovery of oil the Middle Easterners were still living the way they did under the Romans). But I'm sure in their mind these peace-loving Islamics will again save Western civilization as soon as their "elite republican guard" decimates the quagmired Americans or we get "bogged down in another 'brutal' Afghan winter."
30 posted on 02/22/2004 5:59:45 PM PST by wagglebee
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Yep, this is all absolutely true and the same scientists, using DNA evidence, proved that OJ is innocent? Nevermind the blood trails, which were not 15000 years old.
33 posted on 02/22/2004 6:06:10 PM PST by eeriegeno
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Four out of five men in Europe share a common male ancestor who lived as a hunter on a wild continent some 40,000 years ago, researchers say.

The guy's name was "Noah", and it was more like 4000 years ago, or so I've heard.

34 posted on 02/22/2004 6:10:26 PM PST by greenwolf
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Most interesting.
38 posted on 02/22/2004 6:14:45 PM PST by Ciexyz
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BTTT
43 posted on 02/22/2004 6:20:54 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tag Lines Repaired While You Wait! Reasonable Prices! Fast Service!)
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read later
55 posted on 02/22/2004 6:34:31 PM PST by satchmodog9 (it's coming and if you don't get off the tracks it will run you down)
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What?? No African origins for me??

Well, there go my EEO and "reparations" court cases, both shot to hell.....

65 posted on 02/22/2004 7:00:10 PM PST by tracer (ay)
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I watched a documentary on the Discovery Channel tracing the migration of dispersed Israel along the China silk road north to the Norseman then to the Celts from the north, and from the Caucus (sp) Mnts. to the South to end up north in Great Britian. This was of course thousands of years later than the period in the article.

I was wondering if any DNA had ever backed up this claim, or could back it up. The King or Queen of England is always called the King or Queen of Judeah as well, and the Kings and Queens of England received their coronation on a throne that contained a stone called "Jacobs pillow" or the "Stone of Scone", which was returned to Scotland a couple of years back. It is the stone recorded in scriptures as the stone that bore witness to Jacob's oath to God and God's promises to Jacob.

The Queen claims a bloodline traced to Judea, so does the King of Spain, today DNA testing could support or destroy that claim.

68 posted on 02/22/2004 7:03:10 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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