Jerusalem Wall Collapse Sparks Jewish-Muslim Row: MUSLIMS CONTINUE ATTEMPT TO ERASE JEWISH HISTORY

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[Cinnamon Girl]

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The collapse of part of Jerusalem's Western Wall during a rare snowstorm sparked a row between Jewish and Muslim clerics Sunday as one rabbi called it a miracle no worshippers were hurt.

The collapse late Saturday of an 800-year-old embankment next to where Jewish women pray at the site commonly known as the "wailing wall" sent people fleeing from tumbling rocks.

The Muslim authority for the area, the Waqf, blamed Israeli building work nearby for the problem; but an Israeli architect said construction by Arabs was making the wall unstable.

"It's a miracle nobody was hurt," said rabbi Shmuel Rabinovich, blaming time and the weather for the collapse.

Engineers were also looking at whether a small earthquake last week might have played a part in the incident. Israeli police kept people away from the site Sunday.

The head of the Waqf, whose authority includes the Al-Aqsa mosque above the wall, said it had been complaining about Israeli renovations of the Western Wall plaza for some time.

"We've been saying it could cause problems," said Adnan al-Husseini.

Israeli archaeologist Eilat Mazar said it was the fifth time in two years that parts of the walls had begun to crumble, buckle or crack as a result of what she called unsupervised construction by the Waqf -- a charge the Muslim clerics deny.

"What concerns me most is the Temple Mount itself is in danger of collapsing...The earthquake has certainly done more damage but nobody goes to check," she told Reuters.

Jewish women worship separately from men and Rabinovich said partitions would be set up in the men's section to allow women to pray there until their area was made safe after the collapse.

New Yorker Frady Schwartz, praying at the wall Sunday, was unfazed; she said with a shrug: "It's in God's hands."

[Chris Talk]

The antichrist is a Muslim.

There is also a good An TE christ, a forerunner of Christ.

"Behold I will send you Elijah the prophet, before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord. And he will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their FATHERS, lest I come and smite the Land with a curse."

Notice he didn't say MOTHERS. It is FATHERS that children are lacking in today.

Last word of OT is, "Curse."

[missyme]

It is talking of illegal possesion of the land that G-d will cast his judgement upon..

[concerned about politics]

I've searched Islamic prophecy, and they don't know who the Antichrist is. They call him a beast, a leader who will arise and will lead them for 7 years. Then, that's the end of their books.

Christian prophecy also has the 7 year leader - the Antichrist. In our book he is destroyed at Christs return - 7 years after he arises, and there will be peace on earth for 1,000 years.

Islamic prophecy comes to an end at 7 years. There is no more. Muslims do have a lot to do with the Antichrist. They will be part of his army, but many other faiths will also join them from around the world - even the Jews. "I sent you a king, and you rejected him. Along comes another, and it is he you accept." Everyone but Christians and some of the Jewish that have not been decieved, will follow the beast.
Wherever the Antichrist is, he will be able to deceive a lot more than the Muslims.

[Chris Talk]

This is also the chapter about Sept 11 2001, see verse 25,

"In the day of great Slaughter, when the Two Towers fall..."

Plurals in Hebrew mean TWO, unless some other number or a word such as Many, is given.

[FourPeas]

That was my first thought, too.

[missyme]

A good Anet-Christ which is who? and a Muslim is the Anti-Christ...where do you see this...Are you speaking of the War in Megigdo

[Chris Talk]

May we all watch and pray that we not be deceived.

[Chris Talk]

No, I was speaking of the Forerunner, like John the Baptist was in Jesus' day...

Last verse of Malakhi. Last verse of OT.

[Just mythoughts]

Malachi 1:1-....

The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi.

2"I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, 'Wherein hast Thou loved us?'

Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the Lord: yet I loved Jacob,

3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his hertiage wate fo the dragons of the wilderness.

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Romans 9:9 For this is the word of promise, "At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son."

10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isacc;

11 ("For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to ELECTION might stand, not of works, but of Him That calleth;)

12 It was said unto her, "The elder shall serve the younger."

13 As it is written, "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."

Placed two time as a witness, once in the old and once in the new. Makes what we are told about Esau in the old, part of the New Testment, and thus requires learning about the path that Esau took.

Something else here that I find interesting our Heavenly Father knew the children and knew what they would do and become before they were ever born.

[The_Reader_David]

Isn't the X for Greek Chi therefore XMAS IS Christmas? Of course. Just look on any Orthodox icon of Christ: even if the other inscriptions (say for instance on an open book of the Gospels held by Christ and bearing one of the things He said during his earthly ministry) are in Slavonic, Romanian, Arabic, English, Japanese or Aleut, the insription identifying Christ is simply IC XC (C being a variant terminal sigma, and I and X being the first letters of Jesus Christ in Greek (Iesus Christos)).

[missyme]

So do you beleive the rapture has any creedence in this chain of events? I was thinking about this in a simple manner meaning if say a year from now the Temple is re-built there is a man who is bringing Peace to the Middle East he signs a treaty with Arabs and Israel, as a christian I would be telling everyone do not listen he is the Anti-Christ as I beleive millions of Christians would do therefore interfering with this Anti-Chirst to gain merit with the world.

[Just mythoughts]

Part of it, more about a system of government to replace our Heavenly Father.

Think about it this way in our modern era has there not been a form of government whose sole purpose was to replace themselve with our Heavenly Father?

Our Heavenly Father set a system of government told to us in the book of Judges. The children wanted themselves a "king" which is not what our Heavenly Father had in mind.

So he gave them a "king" and then told them what would be required of them by their "king".

Esau traded his birthright for a bowl of "red" soup. The blessing was not given him because his mother knew he was not to get it.

[tubavil]

"The collapse of part of Jerusalem's Western Wall..."

What perfect symbolism!

Will Israel notice? Will Israel do anything?

NO!!!

[concerned about politics]

Political correctness is the one world religion now, and political correctness has a church (apostate churches now preaching PC around the world and liberal activists ), and the Antichrist is the man ruling over the PC world from the darkness, or behind the scene, then the entire stage is set. The Antichrist is even living in the EU. The EU even said "Send us a leader. Be he God or the Devil, we will accept him. "
Shortly after that call, the man of sin and perdition moved to the EU.

Do not be deceived. Political correctness is 100% anti-Biblical. Christians are it's target around the world. The Christians are standing in their way.
If it weren't for Christians and their fear of the 666 mark on their right hand or forehead, we'd all have computer chips by now. The cashless society would become a reality. It will still come, though. Christans need to be demonized to make that happen.

[Quix]

Thanks.

THE MESSAGE version of 27-28 Isaiah 30:

Look, God's on his way, and from a long way off!
Smoking with anger, immense as he comes into view,
Words steaming from his mouth, searing, indicting words!
A torrent of words, a flash flood of words sweeping everyone into the vortex of his words.
He'll shake down the nations in a sieve of destruction, herd them into a dead end.

Dake's annotation: "The name of the lord" is sometimes put for the Lord, Himself. Here it speaks of the coming of Jehovah from heaven to destroy AntiChrist and the kings of the earth for their tribulation upon His people, Jews and saints (v27; 63:1-5; Ezek. 38-39; Joel 2-3; Zech. 14: Mat 25:31-46; Jude 14-15; Rev 19

Thompson Chain 25:14 Of the Lord, Mighty.

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Chris, could you offer a ref elaborating on your translation of NAME?

That's the best I can do from my sources at hand.

[missyme]

So your speaking of this One World Government to some degree?

[Chris Talk]

Hebrew word SHEM, usually translated "name"

Can also mean, Missile, Rocket, Bomber, Warplane

Take a look at it in the sentence in your original translation. Doesn't this meaning fit BETTER than "Name."

Sometimes it is REALLY clear. Like, the Lord is flying or traveling in his NAME, not his craft, in some versions in some passages.

[concerned about politics]

So do you believe the rapture has any credence in this chain of events?

I can't imagine how it would happen, nor when, but I believe it will be done when no one is watching. Maybe during a natural disaster or black out.
The people of the earth will be told it was mother Giah or something cleansing the earth from the hateful, and now there will be peace. Many will accept what they say as truth. Others will be those who finally believe what was written in the Bible and end up washing their robes in white. They manage to make it through the tribulation for the return of the saints.

[mdmathis6]

Nineveh was eventually sacked when it reverted to its old ways. Its destruction(The Assyrian capital) had been foretold, but was delayed due to the preaching of Jonah. Later on, when the people became sinful again, the Babylonians destroyed it.

(By the way, old records from Nineveh have been found speaking of a man bleached white coming from the sea preaching the coming destruction)

[Just mythoughts]

Exactly, and it is that government that receives the "deadly-wound".

That is when the anti-christ or better said the instead of christ gets dumped out of heaven by Michael.

It is written all but the "ELECT" will be deceived, because all but the "ELECT" do not know who will come first. "man of "PEACE" Christ tells what would be going on before his return Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21.

Also Christ said "TIME" would be cut short for the "ELECT" sake.