Jerusalem Wall Collapse Sparks Jewish-Muslim Row: MUSLIMS CONTINUE ATTEMPT TO ERASE JEWISH HISTORY

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[Cinnamon Girl]

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The collapse of part of Jerusalem's Western Wall during a rare snowstorm sparked a row between Jewish and Muslim clerics Sunday as one rabbi called it a miracle no worshippers were hurt.

The collapse late Saturday of an 800-year-old embankment next to where Jewish women pray at the site commonly known as the "wailing wall" sent people fleeing from tumbling rocks.

The Muslim authority for the area, the Waqf, blamed Israeli building work nearby for the problem; but an Israeli architect said construction by Arabs was making the wall unstable.

"It's a miracle nobody was hurt," said rabbi Shmuel Rabinovich, blaming time and the weather for the collapse.

Engineers were also looking at whether a small earthquake last week might have played a part in the incident. Israeli police kept people away from the site Sunday.

The head of the Waqf, whose authority includes the Al-Aqsa mosque above the wall, said it had been complaining about Israeli renovations of the Western Wall plaza for some time.

"We've been saying it could cause problems," said Adnan al-Husseini.

Israeli archaeologist Eilat Mazar said it was the fifth time in two years that parts of the walls had begun to crumble, buckle or crack as a result of what she called unsupervised construction by the Waqf -- a charge the Muslim clerics deny.

"What concerns me most is the Temple Mount itself is in danger of collapsing...The earthquake has certainly done more damage but nobody goes to check," she told Reuters.

Jewish women worship separately from men and Rabinovich said partitions would be set up in the men's section to allow women to pray there until their area was made safe after the collapse.

New Yorker Frady Schwartz, praying at the wall Sunday, was unfazed; she said with a shrug: "It's in God's hands."

[Fish_Keeper]

In Orthodox/Traditional Judaism, men and women are seated (or standing) separately during prayer. In (orthodox) synogogues the seating is usually separated in halves. The reason is to avoid "distractions" during the solemn times of prayer.

[ARA]

Total Rubbish... You should hand them their arse....

[Bobby777]

what I think *may* happen, and this is just my $.02 worth, is that the worldwide terror, mostly caused by Islam, will necessitate the development of worldwide "police" and "military" forces ... mix into the fact that religious ideaologies such as we know of are inherently opposed, some advocating violence (Islam) and more Islamic states are pursuing nuclear weapons ... there may be dreadful battles, and definitely will be as the Lord said the End Times would be far worse than anything ever seen on the Earth at any time, nor would it ever be equalled ... worse than World War II ... frightening possibilities ... and once again, eradication of the Jew (just as Hitler proposed) will be a central theme ...

futher, Israel seems to be guaranteed some sort of "peace and safety" by the False Messiah Antichrist, unfortuntely deceiving many of them ... what he has hidden in his heart is Satan's most diabolical method to destroy them and he will undoubtedly capitalize on anti-Jewish sentiment to form armies against them ... thus the siege against Israel in Zechariah 12, 13, and 14 and the culmination in Ezek 39 and Revelation 19 ... the armies arrayed against Israel (and some are fighting each other it seems) are put down by the Lord when they turn to attack Him in Revelation 19 too ...

An interesting book is "The Samson Option" by Seymour Hersh ... very good reading ...

[ARA]

Is any of the pre-trib stuff even biblical?

[Chris Talk]

First Release

Infidels
1983
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Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man,
His enemies say he's on their land.
They got him outnumbered about a million to one,
He got no place to escape to, no place to run.
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully just lives to survive,
He's criticized and condemned for being alive.
He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin,
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in.
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land,
He's wandered the earth an exiled man.
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn,
He's always on trial for just being born.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized,
Old women condemned him, said he should apologize.
Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad.
The bombs were meant for him.
He was supposed to feel bad.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, the chances are against it and the odds are slim
That he'll live by the rules that the world makes for him,
'Cause there's a noose at his neck and a gun at his back
And a license to kill him is given out to every maniac.
He's the neighborhood bully.

He got no allies to really speak of.
What he gets he must pay for, he don't get it out of love.
He buys obsolete weapons and he won't be denied
But no one sends flesh and blood to fight by his side.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he's surrounded by pacifists who all want peace,
They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease.
Now, they wouldn't hurt a fly.
To hurt one they would weep.
They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Every empire that's enslaved him is gone,
Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon.
He's made a garden of paradise in the desert sand,
In bed with nobody, under no one's command.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Now his holiest books have been trampled upon,
No contract he signed was worth what it was written on.
He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth,
Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health.
He's the neighborhood bully.

What's anybody indebted to him for?
Nothin', they say.
He just likes to cause war.
Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed,
They wait for this bully like a dog waits to feed.
He's the neighborhood bully.

What has he done to wear so many scars?
Does he change the course of rivers?
Does he pollute the moon and stars?
Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill,
Running out the clock, time standing still,
Neighborhood bully.



Copyright © 1983 Special Rider Music

[Chris Talk]

RUNNING OUT THE CLOCK ping

[missyme]

That is true but everyone will believe the 2nd coming of Christ...

[concerned about politics]

"What concerns me most is the Temple Mount itself is in danger of collapsing...

I guess the temple will have to be rebuilt. Prophetic?

[Cinnamon Girl]

The Temple will have to be rebuilt because there is currently no Temple. But what may happen is that all the muslim's digging under the mount will cause their mosques to crumble and fall into the earth.

[johnb838]

Isn't the X for Greek Chi therefore XMAS IS Christmas?

Yes, I heard the story a couple of years ago that that abbreviation has been around since the beginning, and is a perfectly legitimate way of spelling Christmas.

[missyme]

Yes and the re-building of the temple is very prophetic....

[mdmathis6]

The third rebuilding is not a good thing...I don't know why there is such zeal to see it rebuilt amongst some Christians.

Granted such doings are sign posts of the coming Lord Jesus and that is a good thing. But a lot of people will be killed because of it, and as long as the Lord tarries the more chances that people can be saved.

[missyme]

I doubt we can change prophecy, but I do think we can be aware we can share the Gospels we can warn people about things to come, and we can pray..But G-d has a plan for this world and he knows what will happen, we just have to ask ourselves we will be ready for what is yet to come?

[johnb838]

It is laughable that they think they can stop the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel by occupying a Holy site. Typical of the legaliztic crap espoused by the dirty gutter cult they call a religion.

[Just mythoughts]

Dig a little deeper into Rosh and who these are the children of. Hint - he was a twin.

[mdmathis6]

prophecy no, can't be changed. But delay, possible...Christ said "remember Nineveh"....it was spared destruction for a generation because of the preaching of a reluctant prophet.

[Chris Talk]

Two thousand years we wait here in this vale of sin and tears, and then he asks us why we are in such a hurry to see the Heikhel rebuilt.

Oy vey. THREE thousand we should wait?

"May the Temple be speedily rebuilt in our days."

Amen.

[Bobby777]

correct. I would certainly not hinder the Jews from doing it, for it is the Lord's doing, but as you say, it portends a very dark day (time period that is) ... that day will not last forever, but the coming Third Temple shows us something very dramatic ...

[missyme]

Why a delay?

[Chris Talk]

Keep your eyes, upon the Eastern sky

Lift Up Your Heads, REDEMPTION draweth nigh!