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Ann Coulter: Cleland drops a political grenade
Universal Press Syndicate ^ | February 12, 2004 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 02/11/2004 11:11:19 PM PST by alloysteel

Former Sen. Max Cleland is the Democrats' designated hysteric about George Bush's National Guard service. A triple amputee and Vietnam veteran, Cleland is making the rounds on talk TV, basking in the affection of liberals who have suddenly become jock-sniffers for war veterans and working himself into a lather about President Bush's military service. Citing such renowned military experts as Molly Ivins, Cleland indignantly demands further investigation into Bush's service with the Texas Air National Guard.

Bush's National Guard service is the most thoroughly investigated event since the Kennedy assassination. But the Democrats will accept only two possible conclusions to their baseless accusations: (1) Bush was "AWOL," or (2) the matter needs further investigation.

Thirty years ago, Bush was granted an honorable discharge from the National Guard, which would seem to put the matter to rest. But liberals want proof that Bush actually deserved his honorable discharge. (Since when did the party of Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd get so obsessed with honor?)

On "Hardball" Monday night, Cleland demanded to see Bush's pay stubs for the disputed period of time, May 1972 to May 1973. "If he was getting paid for his weekend warrior work," Cleland said, "he should have some pay stubs to show it."

The next day, the White House produced the pay stubs. This confirmed what has been confirmed 1 million times before: After taking the summer off, Bush reported for duty nine times between Nov. 29, 1972, and May 24, 1973 – more than enough times to fulfill his Guard duties. (And nine times more than Bill Clinton, Barney Frank or Chuck Schumer did during the same period.)

All this has been reported – with documentation – many times by many news organizations. George magazine had Bush's National Guard records 3 1/2 years ago.

All available evidence keeps confirming Bush's honorable service with the Guard, which leads liberals to conclude ... further investigation is needed! No evidence will ever be enough evidence. That Bush skipped out on his National Guard service is one of liberals' many nondisprovable beliefs, like global warming.

Cleland also expressed outrage that Bush left the National Guard nine months early in 1973 to go to Harvard Business School. On "Hardball," Cleland testily remarked: "I just know a whole lot of veterans who would have loved to have worked things out with the military and adjusted their tour of duty." (Cleland already knows one – Al Gore!)

When Bush left the National Guard in 1973 to go to business school, the war was over. It might as well have been 1986. Presidents Kennedy and Johnson had already lost the war, and President Nixon had ended it with the Paris peace accords in January. If Bush had demanded active combat, there was no war to send him to.

To put this in perspective, by 1973, John Kerry had already accused American soldiers of committing war crimes in Vietnam, thrown someone else's medals to the ground in an anti-war demonstration, and married his first heiress. Bill Clinton had just finished three years of law school and was about to embark upon a political career – which would include campaign events with Max Cleland.

Moreover, if we're going to start delving into exactly who did what back then, maybe Max Cleland should stop allowing Democrats to portray him as a war hero who lost his limbs taking enemy fire on the battlefields of Vietnam.

Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine noncombat mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade on the ground and picked it up. He could have done that at Fort Dix. In fact, Cleland could have dropped a grenade on his foot as a National Guardsman – or what Cleland sneeringly calls "weekend warriors." Luckily for Cleland's political career and current pomposity about Bush, he happened to do it while in Vietnam.

There is more than a whiff of dishonesty in how Cleland is presented to the American people. Terry McAuliffe goes around saying, "Max Cleland, a triple amputee who left three limbs on the battlefield of Vietnam," was thrown out of office because Republicans "had the audacity to call Max Cleland unpatriotic." Mr. Cleland, a word of advice: When a slimy weasel like Terry McAuliffe is vouching for your combat record, it's time to sound "retreat" on that subject.

Needless to say, no one ever challenged Cleland's "patriotism." His performance in the Senate was the issue, which should not have come as a bolt out of the blue inasmuch as he was running for re-election to the Senate. Sen. Cleland had refused to vote for the Homeland Security bill unless it was chock-full of pro-union perks that would have jeopardized national security. ("OH, MY GOD! A HIJACKED PLANE IS HEADED FOR THE WHITE HOUSE!" "Sorry, I'm on my break. Please call back in two hours.")

The good people of Georgia – who do not need lectures on admiring military service – gave Cleland one pass for being a Vietnam veteran. He didn't get a lifetime pass.

Indeed, if Cleland had dropped a grenade on himself at Fort Dix rather than in Vietnam, he would never have been a U.S. senator in the first place. Maybe he'd be the best pharmacist in Atlanta, but not a U.S. senator. He got into office on the basis of serving in Vietnam and was thrown out for his performance as a senator.

Cleland wore the uniform, he was in Vietnam, and he has shown courage by going on to lead a productive life. But he didn't "give his limbs for his country," or leave them "on the battlefield." There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on himself with no enemy troops in sight. That could have happened in the Texas National Guard – which Cleland denigrates while demanding his own sanctification.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agitprop; anncoulter; bushhaters; dnctalkingpoints; lyingliars; maxcleland; mediabias; mediaho; shemale; therestofthestory; usefulidiots; wartimeservice
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To: Clinton Is Scum
Let's face it--most people who served in the Guard at that time did so to avoid seeing combat.

Oh really? Is this something you know or are you simply saying something that you have heard 1000s of times?

And, are you suggesting that this is the case with W? If so, are you aware of the differences between the Guard (NG) and the ANG which W served in?

41 posted on 02/12/2004 2:42:20 AM PST by There's millions of'em (John F. Kerry: a decorated VN war criminal.....)
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To: alloysteel
I am so happy to see this again about Cleand & the way he lost his limbs. I had always heard that he was drunk & playing with a gernade when he was injured. People needs to know the truth about him & how he was injured. Not in War but due to him being drunk & his careless behavior....... Thank you for printing this report again...
42 posted on 02/12/2004 2:52:16 AM PST by memaw ([)
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To: Godebert; Admin Moderator
Hold on now.

I'm a conservative republican and a veteran.

Max went to Vietnam with two arms and two legs. He returned with one arm. I don't care how it happened.

Ann shouldn't nit-pick over the hows or whys of what happened to the guy. She was unreasonable and cruel in that article.


43 posted on 02/12/2004 2:55:30 AM PST by My Dog Likes Me
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To: alloysteel
You guys should see the DU thread about this. Death threats for Ann galore! The truth hurts the DUmmies.
44 posted on 02/12/2004 3:15:03 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: My Dog Likes Me
Ann goes down such roads to stay viable as the other-side panelist on the talk shows.

She is smart, but not always impressive.
45 posted on 02/12/2004 3:21:06 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: RandallFlagg
In strict accordance with the FreeRepublic by laws,
paragraph 4, section 7, stating that, and I quote:
"any mention of our beloved Ann Coulter
must include her image", I offer the following
pictures for your exclusive viewing pleasure.






Carville really IS gollum.

46 posted on 02/12/2004 3:37:27 AM PST by ChadGore (Viva Bush. He's EARNED a second term.)
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To: There's millions of'em
Let's face it--most people who served in the Guard at that time did so to avoid seeing combat. The Air National Guard flew over 30,000 combat sorties in Vietnam.
47 posted on 02/12/2004 3:41:41 AM PST by Fenris6
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To: There's millions of'em
Yeah! Just like college deferments at the time.

Most of those who went that route justed wanted to make sure they were going to be really smart soldiers when they finally graduated.

To all of these chaps, it was such a pity that the war ended before they finally focused on one of their many majors and received their diplomas.
48 posted on 02/12/2004 3:42:56 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Fenris6
That's worth repeating:

The Air National Guard flew over 30,000 combat sorties in Vietnam.

49 posted on 02/12/2004 3:51:02 AM PST by There's millions of'em (John F. Kerry: a decorated VN war criminal.....)
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To: Prodigal Son
I'm with you--I hate the constant 'tattling' by the media about the things the soldiers do in combat zones. They definitely don't need to be scrutinized by civilians like me (IF they are not things that are considered unreasonable by the majority of soldiers!)

Cleland was rotten for lots of reasons, but it seems sort of obnoxious to kick a guy who had three limbs blown off, for whatever reason.
50 posted on 02/12/2004 3:53:49 AM PST by Rutabega (the only good thing about living in Europe was finding out that we captured Saddam two hours early!)
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To: Tall_Texan
Face it, more women than will ever admit (most FReepers excepted, of course), vote according to which candidate makes the cutest couple and which guy looks like he's the more attractive provider.


It just amazes me how many people vote for looks and personality, that is what I call a moreon vote. If a person doesn't know anything about the issues, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.
51 posted on 02/12/2004 3:55:54 AM PST by garylmoore (It is as it was)
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To: garylmoore
I think only us cute guys should be allowed to post.
52 posted on 02/12/2004 3:56:55 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: alloysteel
Cleland lost the wrong appendage.

The hypocracy of the liberal left in making an issue of ANYONE'S war record after their defense of draft-dodging, commie-suck-up Bill Clinton is beyond laughable.
53 posted on 02/12/2004 3:58:41 AM PST by ZULU (GOD BLESS SENATOR JOE MCCARTHY!!!)
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To: optimistically_conservative
Thank you for the history lesson.

Now go back and read about Benedict Arnold's war record before he turned into a synonym for traitor.

Hero at Balfour Island, wounded in action at Quebec, wounded in action at Saratoga - conspired with British to surrender George Washington and West Point, a key defense post connecting New England with the rest of the revolting colonies. Later served with British forces in Connecticut and Virginia.

Clelland can go to the same Hell that Benedict Arnold is in and take his medals with him.
54 posted on 02/12/2004 4:03:16 AM PST by ZULU (GOD BLESS SENATOR JOE MCCARTHY!!!)
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To: Rutabega
I hate the constant 'tattling' by the media about the things the soldiers do in combat zones.

Yeah, I mean, that's what the UCMJ is for. It's not all cut and dry. It's not all so simple that civilians can pontificate about it.

55 posted on 02/12/2004 4:03:43 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: My Dog Likes Me
Ann shouldn't nit-pick over the hows or whys of what happened to the guy. She was unreasonable and cruel in that article.

Then Cleland's getting a taste of his own medicine for attacking Bush's service for no damned good reason.

56 posted on 02/12/2004 4:11:38 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
Going after a triple amputee, no matter how dispicable he may be, is not the best strategy in winning converts.
57 posted on 02/12/2004 4:13:23 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
Going after a triple amputee, no matter how dispicable he may be, is not the best strategy in winning converts.

Agreed, as much as I hate to give this guy a free pass. I remained silent in the last thread because, after reading Ann's story, I went and did some research on Cleland. Turns out, the man volunteered to serve his country in Vietnam, a fact Ann leaves out.

58 posted on 02/12/2004 4:54:37 AM PST by Kleon
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To: alloysteel
weekend warrior

I'm not in the guard, but if I were, I would be highly insulted by this term and I would let Mr. Cleland know it. Anybody have his email ??


59 posted on 02/12/2004 5:00:49 AM PST by BSunday (<a href=http://www.johnkerry.com>gigolo</a>)
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To: optimistically_conservative
I think the specific issue that Ann was referring to was the "grenade incident" and how it was hyped and misrepresented.
60 posted on 02/12/2004 5:02:56 AM PST by carton253 (I have no genius at seeming.)
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