Conservatives Need to Get Real

The Intellectual Conservative ^ | 02 February 2004 | Scott Shore

[TomasUSMC]

We keep having to break it down for you, for some reason. There are only two possible outcomes in November: President George W. Bush, or President John F. Kerry. If President Bush continues moving Left, he will be at fault for a democratic President.

It is not the responsibility of the people to represent the will of the President.
It is the responsibility of the President to represent the will of the People.

No Borders No Vote

[TomasUSMC]

Some say We have a President and a Congress to elect and we can do it w/o the 5%. Well that wasn't true in the last election was it? Much less than 5 percent would have decided it either way. Matter-of-fact, had the Green party not run, Gore would have won easily.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Nope. YOU will be at fault. If you think there's no difference between Bush and Kerry, then you have some research to do.

[TomasUSMC]

Some people ask, What exactly did Gov George W Bush promise you during his campaign that he hasn't done, tried to do or has in the works ?

Its the "has in the works" that bothers me. But its true and correct. He didn't say he was a conservative, he said he was a Compassionate conservative. I want him to become a Conservative. So..

No Border - No Vote.

[TomasUSMC]

The UN without the US is just un.

[TomasUSMC]

Some people say they do not recall the destruction of the NEA as a Bush platform plank in 2000. They say that is just another projection of the kooks. Of course additional funding for the NEA was not a promise either.

With our troops being shot at dozen of times a day in Iraq, I would have thought the first lady would have maybe wanted money to go to ....lets say - body armor.

[TomasUSMC]

Illegals need to be identified and deported, and to not round them all up and kick them out of the country would bring disaster to our national sovereignty. We are talking 12 million here. And this massive pardon will encourage another 12 million. Incredible, that during a War, the President of any country would strive to maintain his borders undefended.

No Borders - No Votes

[BigSkyFreeper]

Just do a Google image search on "OWK"

Interesting stuff there

HAH!...All I can say is, "Just damn"

[TomasUSMC]

Some people talk about the importance of judicial nominations, or the culture wars, or the defense of American ideals. What could be more important than ProLife. Is the president accepting ProChoice people into the republican party, how about homosexuals? Yes he is. Are these the type of people that uphold American Culture? Are they the ones who will insure prolife nominations? Does Abortion and homosexuality = American ideals?

No.

[TomasUSMC]

We just don't want to beat the Dems, we want to pulverize them into powder, and then sweep the powder onto the ash heap of history.***

I agree--but I want to see them cry first, too!

Okay now thats sounds good. I'm all for that.

[Sabertooth]

I asked some esteemed freepers who were among the "Worst of the Worst" in terms of narrow-mindedness, stridency, and inability to see the big picture, and your screen name came up. You should feel honored that anyone even notices your posts.

Is the list of "esteemed freepers" posted anywhere?

[Mo1]

LOL .. Oddest thing I've seen

[TomasUSMC]

Some people say that the Ban against Partial-Birth Abortion
is a humongous examples that proves that President Bush is conservative, God-fearing, and life-loving-- . Well, the PBA will affect way less than .5 percent of the 3000 abortions every day. It was a barbaric act and a win win vote for both sides of the aisle. Easy to pass and sign.

No doubt though, the President is a God-fearing man. Humongous though, is not what I would call it.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Same here! LOL

[George W. Bush]

Some people say that the Ban against Partial-Birth Abortion is a humongous examples that proves that President Bush is conservative, God-fearing, and life-loving-- . Well, the PBA will affect way less than .5 percent of the 3000 abortions every day. It was a barbaric act and a win win vote for both sides of the aisle. Easy to pass and sign.

It's more than that: PBA is only one of several late-term abortion methods.

The PBA ban has not stopped a single late-term abortion that anyone knows of. They just do it by poisoning the baby or in other ways. Although the PBA scissors-to-skull method is gruesome, some people would argue that the other methods actually cause far more enduring agony to the baby that is being murdered.

So, despite the fierce pillow fight the Dems staged for their infanticide lobby, nothing has really changed. Some pro-lifers would make the point that it is only the first restriction and will pave the way for others. I hope so. But I won't believe it until I see it.

Since W. holds the life-of-the-mother/rape/incest exceptions already on abortion, there is no credible reason to believe he personally wants a late-term abortion ban. Life-of-the-mother almost always means the barbaric late-term abortions. And his parents were big early GOP boosters of Planned Parenthood back in Texas in the Sixties and Seventies. His dad only became pro-life (and pro-voodoo economics) after Reagan offered him the VP slot, in an amazing switch that occurred during his brief interview with Reagan. This is partly why conservatives never did trust Spook Daddy.

Serious pro-lifers don't scorn PBA. But they know how small a start it is after decades of effort and supporting the GOP at state and national levels.

[ohioWfan]

My apology for assuming your insult (which was nearly identical to others of the same nature on this thread) was intended for me.

After having numerous far righters level the same meaningless insults at me (which, incidentally were the most 'puerile posts' on this thread), it was my assumption that you were doing the same.

It's not at all 'telling' that I thought you were including me in your insult because those in your political camp freely insult Bush supporters in ignorance and arrogance all the time. It was far more logical for me to assume that you were including me than not.

Now, if you would like to give any indication that you are not as egotistical as you seem, I'd be happy to read it. From your last post, I'll continue to assume that my earlier impression was correct.

[ohioWfan]

you seem happy when conservatives get banned from the board

This little line caught my eye last night, but I was off the computer before I realize what it revealed about you.

You're a patron at the LP Biker Bar, aren't you? You know, that Jr. High locker room on that banned freeper forum?? (I went there for a couple of days last year, and it took a week to get the stench off my computer).

I know that because I was the subject of one of Todd's cute little threads, and that was one of the topics.

Trouble is, that was about NINE months ago, my cut and pasted comment was to ONE freeper, and I haven't said anything remotely similar since then.

You're a Todd groupie, aren't you?? You're a 'libertarian intellectual' who hangs out with the boys there, aren't you?? That's the ONLY way you could or would have made the above accusation of me. You've outted yourself.

[jjbrouwer]

Installed a beautiful new light fixture in my powder room...

You have a powder room...? Careful - get any more camp and you'll have to marry Liza Minelli.

[ohioWfan]

Maybe you can get smacked around again tomorrow... huh?

I'm going to give you a piece of motherly advice, OWK (I assume you're at least 20.....even though you don't act that old..... since you claim to have been on FR since 97). I've been teasing you so far, but this is serious.

You're really good at mocking. I've never heard anything better from any high school, egocentric jock. You've mastered the art of making fun of people you don't know, and I can see you're proud of it. Bully for you.

But this is an adult world, and most of us on this forum are adults, and your immaturity has literally burst out of this thread for all to see. If you want to be taken seriously by anyone except yourself, I'd suggest that you get into the word of God and down on your knees in prayer, and find out about humility and righteousness.

Oh......and about those 'relationships'........no one as rude, childish, and self-centered as you are will ever have a good marriage, and if you don't have a good, healthy marriage, you will NEVER know what it's all about.

[tpaine]

OWK got 'smacked' last night, sports fans..

Gotta love it.. -- One less fool to suffer, aye? Soon we will have peace on FR.. All will agree on the one right way..