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Conservatives Need to Get Real
The Intellectual Conservative ^ | 02 February 2004 | Scott Shore

Posted on 02/11/2004 11:00:20 AM PST by Lando Lincoln

While President Bush may not be a conservative’s perfect president, the alternative should shake any discontents to active support of the President.

As a conservative, I agree with most of the criticism that has been leveled at President Bush amongst Republicans and conservatives. While I support the President’s foreign and defense policies, I think that the Administration has tried to do the impossible—preempt the Left on their own issues. Republicans were not put on this earth to increase the size of government, create massive new programs like Medicare, spend billions of dollars on AIDS in Africa, fund the UN renovation, expand the Federal role in education or pursue a reckless policy of granting amnesty to illegal foreigners working in the US. None of these initiatives by the President will, in the end, take votes from the Democratic core base. Democrats are much better and far more willing to outspend any Republican program that expands the Welfare State. The strong suit of Republicans is limited government, lower taxes, individual responsibility and strong national defense. Karl Rove may be right that some of the President’s big government initiatives may neutralize some independents. In any case, conservatives could have hoped for much more in a Washington where Republicans control both the White House and Congress.

Having said all that, I intend to do whatever I can to reelect President Bush. The reason is simple. The alternative is unthinkable. A tax increase by rolling back the President’s much needed tax relief will not go to reduce the deficit but to fund massive new social programs, especially some form of universal national health care system. The stimulus of tax relief will be gone and the deadweight of new taxes and government program will lead to a much larger deficit. Moreover, the hue and cry over the deficit is only logical if the deficit grows as a percentage of GDP over a period of years. Economic recovery can shrink the deficit in a relatively short time -- provided there is no new spending. A Democrat will give us the worst of both worlds -- higher taxes and higher spending.

A Democratic economic policy is also lethal to the American middle class and small business. The repeal of most taxes to the “wealthy” proposed by the Democrats are really to two-income families that are just getting by and are clearly the backbone of the middle-class and small business owners who pay income tax; their business is not a corporation but a family business that is a sole proprietorship. An increase in dividend taxation or capital gains will put the financial markets in a tailspin and further retard the growth of new or expanded business activity.

Universal health care has an interesting twist that few seem to be discussing. If people are concerned about possible invasions of privacy because of the Patriot Act, imagine the access to private information available to Big Brother when he gets his hands on your medical records. Once the government is subsidizing our health, how long will it take before certain health lifestyles or diets become a matter of government concern over its citizens? Should we expect a universal health care system to deliver the same value as our compulsory educational system? In fact, the Democrats are likely to create an even greater rift between the Haves and Have-Nots in healthcare by allowing only the wealthiest Americans to pay for private services. Besides this, universal health will either bankrupt the economy since the demand for healthcare is virtually without limit or it will require the government to ration healthcare. Do we really want the delivery of healthcare to become a matter of political bargaining? Imagine the hypocrisy of those who are adamant that the relationship between a doctor and patient is sacrosanct when it comes to abortion, but would make almost all medical procedures a matter of public policy mandates in the future. Imagine your worst nightmare of an HMO and then increase that exponentially and you begin to get the real meaning of Universal Health Care. As for the eventual bill for this service, look to the past at all other federal entitlement programs. To make matters worse, no Democrat is going to support Medical Practice Tort Reform which is contributing to the skyrocketed growth of healthcare costs.

How will Democrats deal with other issues of free market choice for individuals? No Democrat supports any level of privatization of Social Security for retirement. There is no support for school vouchers or alternatives to the monopoly of the public school system. Finally there is no support for private Health Savings Accounts among the Democrats. While Republicans will at least look for market-based solutions to public policy issues, the unions and bureaucratic constituencies of the Democrats virtually insures no such innovation.

On the matter of illegal immigration, the Democrats are more likely to pass a liberal new amnesty program than any GOP administration. The reason is that the Hispanic community seems to be “in play” and this is one constituency the Democrats really need to lock up in order to strengthen their position on the West Coast and in the Southwest.

One can only imagine the kind of social activist judges and Supreme Court justices that would be appointed by the Democratic nominee. The Federal Judiciary will begin to resemble the lunacy of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco. Can any responsible citizen sit home and allow the judiciary to lunge to the Left? This alone should energize conservatives. The dismantling of all religious tradition or symbolism in public life is likely to continue with a Democratic President and a liberal judiciary.

The final issue is one of national security. Certainly no one can believe that a Democratic administration will strengthen our intelligence and defense capabilities. It was under Democratic administrations that the CIA and other intelligence agencies became decimated and hand-tied. The Democrats have almost unanimously voted against nearly all major new weapons systems. At a time when we are in fact living in a Third World War, we can not go from a Churchill to a Chamberlain. It is disingenuous for the Democrats to glob onto intelligence deficiencies when they are largely the culprit for lack of human intelligence or material resources in the important area of espionage. In fighting a terrorist enemy, preemption is the natural policy and that requires intelligence first and foremost.

While President Bush may not be a conservative’s perfect president, the alternative should shake any discontents to active support of the President. Moreover, in the area of determining the security threat to the West and taking action, the President may go down as one of our greatest leaders. For the sake of the hope of more prudent domestic policy, judicial restraint and national security, there is really no choice. As for much of the domestic agenda, can we afford to sacrifice the good for the perfect?

Scott Shore is a political commentator and management consultant in Providence, Rhode Island.


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To: homemom
Here are two big, humongous examples that prove that he is conservative, God-fearing, and life-loving--
*Ban against Partial-Birth Abortion
*Against gay marriage

I'll give you God-fearing, and life-loving, but conservative? If those qualified someone as conservative, then Jimmy Carter would also be very high in the running. IMHO, they are qualities that are neccessary, but by no means sufficient to qualify one as a conservative.

561 posted on 02/12/2004 9:38:53 AM PST by LTCJ (Gridlock '05 - the Lesser of Three Evils.)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Don't ping me to celebrations of your ignorant rantings.

I asked some esteemed freepers who were among the "Worst of the Worst" in terms of narrow-mindedness, stridency, and inability to see the big picture, and your screen name came up. You should feel honored that anyone even notices your posts.

562 posted on 02/12/2004 9:39:01 AM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: Mo1
Mo, the GOP has plenty of time to bring the base home.

The electoin is nine months away.

Nobody needs to make up their minds just yet. I certainly haven't.

I want to vote GOP. But I need to see more of the Gingrich and Reagan agenda that I joined up for.

The GOP hasn't lost conservatives just yet. The sky isn't falling yet. Good grief, my state hasn't even had primaries yet.

What's the rush?

You want to get conservatives on board the GOP bandwagon? Pressure your congressman and senator and president to spend less, shrink government, phase out NEA/DoE, enforce immigration law, that kind of stuff. You know, the same stuff we all agreed on back when Xlinton was in office? Remember that?

Some of us hold the same positions regardless of which party holds which branch of government.
563 posted on 02/12/2004 9:39:37 AM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: My2Cents
Who gives a flip what you think. Go off in a huff and vote third party. You're a pimple on the arse of the body politic. The only thing that gives you any sense of self-worth is that people around here get upset with your stridency. Well, I refuse to let you and your negativity ruin my day. You're opinion isn't worth squat, as far as I'm concerned. Do what you feel you must do in this election. I really couldn't care less, because in the end, you and your fellow-malcontents won't merit a footnote when the history of this election is written. I, for one, hope you and the rest of the coercive naysayers who haunt these fine discussion threads never darken the door of the Republican Party again. I'm asking you to storm off and vote for your flippin' third party! Please! Leave the rest of us alone so we can actually fight for the big issues facing this country.

Who gives a flip what you think...Well, I refuse to let you and your negativity ruin my day. You're opinion isn't worth squat, as far as I'm concerned...I really couldn't care less...

And what a way to demontrate your "indifference" to all...LOL.

564 posted on 02/12/2004 9:39:42 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: My2Cents
Re your #306 on this thread, there isn't a characterization strong enough to express my pleasure about what you had to say. I, too, am so [blanking] tired of these perpetually disgruntled types. They keep whining about their principles, all the while more than insinuating that no one else has any but themselves. How convenient. If "the other guy" is unprincipled then they can smugly and self-righteously dismiss anything he has to say. And, of course, if “the other guy” is unprincipled, then the terminally smug get to pat themselves on the back over their own “principled” stance. It’s a circular, self-reinforcing position — but then, so is that of a dog chasing it’s own tail.
565 posted on 02/12/2004 9:39:54 AM PST by Wolfstar (A self-confident cowboy nation, or a Kerrified nation. Your choice.)
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To: George W. Bush
But even that's not good enough for Howlin. Wow, what a vicious bushbasher I am!

See? Changing your name might be sooner than you think!

I know George Bush, and you sir, are no George Bush! LOL

566 posted on 02/12/2004 9:41:03 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: My2Cents
By the way, you did not answer my questions to you in response to the long post you made.
567 posted on 02/12/2004 9:42:34 AM PST by looscnnn (Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
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To: Wolfstar
They keep whining about their principles...

As opposed to prostituting them for votes.

568 posted on 02/12/2004 9:43:59 AM PST by OWK (Have you accepted George as your personal president?)
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To: My2Cents
"If you'd read the bill, you'd know there are means tests for the drug benefit."

Where is the means test showing where the Constitution authorizes a prescription drug benefit at all? No worming out of it. I want you to show me. When you find it, then I can be called a Bush hater. Til then, I am an unconstitutional federal government activity hater.

569 posted on 02/12/2004 9:44:11 AM PST by Critter (Have you accepted Critter as your personal president?)
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To: Wolfstar
Don't forget: Mark Steyn called them the "death before electibility" crowd! LOL!
570 posted on 02/12/2004 9:44:45 AM PST by alwaysconservative (There are choices by good people, and excuses from the rest.)
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To: OWK
jumping up and down with your hair on fire trying to get everyone to see how little you care what they think.

You been back to that bowling alley again? These people must be in the same bowling league as you.

571 posted on 02/12/2004 9:46:17 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: George W. Bush
Nobody needs to make up their minds just yet. I certainly haven't.

The choices are Bush or Dem like Kerry or Edwards

A third party has no chance in hell of winning .. you know it .. I know it and so does everyone one else in this forum knows it

Pressure your congressman and senator and president to spend less, shrink government, phase out NEA/DoE, enforce immigration law, that kind of stuff. You know, the same stuff we all agreed on back when Xlinton was in office? Remember that?

I have been saying that all along ..only some around here would like to only blame Bush .. and because I support Bush, I am called every name in the book and insulted in more ways then I care to count

Here's another thought .. put pressure on our local and state governments .. The last I recall .. they were the ones that increase my real estate taxes and the states were the ones that increased many of the freebies

572 posted on 02/12/2004 9:50:02 AM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: Critter
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers (enumerated in the Constitution) connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." --James Madison

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." --James Madison

"I cannot find any authority in the Constitution for public charity, and such spending would be contrary to the letter and the spirit of the Constitution and subversive to the whole theory upon which the Union of these States is founded." --Franklin Pierce

"I feel obliged to withhold my approval of the plan to indulge in benevolent and charitable sentiment through the appropriation of public funds. ... I find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution."--Grover Cleveland

I'm a conservative, and I think everybody should have free drugs and stuff, and that government should fund starving artists. --George W. Bush

573 posted on 02/12/2004 9:53:12 AM PST by OWK (Have you accepted George as your personal president?)
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To: OWK
Politics in the US today probably resmeble politics in the former soviet union. I'm sure there were "conservative" commies there too, no? :)
574 posted on 02/12/2004 9:57:28 AM PST by Critter (Have you accepted Critter as your personal president?)
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To: My2Cents
Hey... the thread's slowing down dude...

C'mon back and tell us how little you care a little more.

575 posted on 02/12/2004 9:59:31 AM PST by OWK (Have you accepted George as your personal president?)
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To: OWK
I guess the good guys won?
576 posted on 02/12/2004 10:03:53 AM PST by Critter (Have you accepted Critter as your personal president?)
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To: Mo1
I have been saying that all along ..only some around here would like to only blame Bush .. and because I support Bush, I am called every name in the book and insulted in more ways then I care to count

And we conservatives aren't?

Look, stay on target. Hit the GOP on the classic conservative issues. We conservatives do want to come home. But we can't repudiate what we've been voting against for 10-20 years just because the GOP wants to peddle big government and huge spending.

We can't. We just can't.

Like I said, let's keep calm and pressure the GOP. Their legislative season is just starting. There's time to fix this thing. Then we can all cheerfully support our GOP candidates in nine months.
577 posted on 02/12/2004 10:09:26 AM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: OWK
As opposed to prostituting them for votes.

Thanks for demonstrating my point.

578 posted on 02/12/2004 10:17:37 AM PST by Wolfstar (A self-confident cowboy nation, or a Kerrified nation. Your choice.)
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To: Wolfstar
And you, mine.
579 posted on 02/12/2004 10:20:23 AM PST by OWK (Have you accepted George as your personal president?)
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To: George W. Bush
And we conservatives aren't?

Never said they weren't ... but their problem is they want it all NOW!!

And if they don't get it all NOW .. By goodness they are going to sit home

Kind of reminds me of my children when they don't get everything they want

Look, stay on target. Hit the GOP on the classic conservative issues. We conservatives do want to come home. But we can't repudiate what we've been voting against for 10-20 years just because the GOP wants to peddle big government and huge spending.

I and others have been trying to stay on target .. But some would rather just give it to the other side ..

I and other have been trying to put pressure on the GOP .. but some just want to blame only Bush

Like I said, let's keep calm and pressure the GOP

What's the point if some are willing to throw the election??

580 posted on 02/12/2004 10:23:11 AM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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