The Silent Holocaust in Israel ({Israeli} Abortionists kill more children than terrorists)

www.jewsformorality.org ^ | 17 Sept. 2003 | Rabbi Yehuda Levin

[gobucks]

This article stunned me utterly. Discovered this through networking w/ Freepers.

If these abortion numbers in Israel are actually true, then it's utterly unfathomable to me Sharon's recent statements regarding the demographic problems Israel is facing. Unfathomable that he didn't address this topic that is.

Folks, I'm very interested in this question now in a way that never occured to me before: what is the abortion rate in Muslim countries? Do Muslim countries even have abortion rates that can be measured??

[ken5050]

FYI..the vast majority of Jews in Israel are non-observant..so, there's a defintie co-relation..OTOH, here in the good ole USA, we have Joe Lieberman, a "modern Orthodox Jew"..whatever the heck that is..proclaiming to the hills his support for killing babaies, and not ONE Orthodox rabbi threatening to perform a second circumcision on him for saying that..

[stuartcr]

Do you know if abortion is legal in Muslim countries?

[Alberta's Child]

Yehuda Levin is da man.

[Alberta's Child]

No, it's illegal in most Islamic countries.

Here's an interesting little tidbit for your consumption:

When the Islamic fundamentalists in Iran toppled the Shah in 1979, the U.S. embassy was actually the second building they seized during their uprising. The first building they sacked was the Tehran offices of the International Planned Parenthood Federation.

Kind of puts things in a different perspective, doesn't it?

[Chris Talk]

Abortion is illegal in Muslim countries. And in Mexico.

This 13% rate of abortion to conception in Israel, in the article, is well under the some 25% rate in the USA since 1973.

[blueminnesota]

Islam permits abortion in the first few months for medical reasons but it rarely happens as children are so desired. And the technology to detect medical problems in the womb is lacking in most places.

[stuartcr]

Thanks...I've found that I usually have a different perspective.

[SJackson]

Most people estimate the rate of illegal abortions in Israel at 40% to 50% of the legal abortion rate, not the 100% mentioned in the article, for a total rate in the high teens. The legal rate, though, is about half the US.

I can't locate the link to the UN worldwide state, but Johnstons Archive has a pretty good set of tables at Abortion statistics and other data which do include estimates for some countries, like Turkey, with large Islamic populations.

[SJackson]

If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

[Piranha]

If nearly 100% of applications for abortion are accepted, why would there be a need for an illegal abortion market half-again as big as the legal one?

[Alberta's Child]

. . . then it's utterly unfathomable to me Sharon's recent statements regarding the demographic problems Israel is facing.

In that sense, Israel is no different than the United States, which aborts more than a million children a year while at the same time allowing more than a million immigrants (legal and illegal) to pour across our borders on an annual basis. And yet we are such ignorant, short-sighted morons that we actually keep a straight face while we complain about illegal immigration in this country.

[marshmallow]

For what it's worth, Muslim countries are essentially the only significant supporters of the Vatican in its lonely fight with the UN to stop abortion becoming a universal "human right".

Of course, their "pro-life" position seems somewhat less clearly defined when it comes to condemning the barbaric practice of "suicide" bombing, but on abortion they have more in common with Christians than the western secular humanists who promote the "culture of death."

[GovernmentShrinker]

Maybe you should check into the Orthodox definition of when life begins.

[Psalm 73]

Israel has been sacrificing infants on the altar of Moloch for three thousand years - it's a nasty habit they picked up from the pagans.
HOW many times throughtout history has God brought judgement on them for following in the ways of the pagans....?

[stuartcr]

I'm not Muslim, and I'm not a terrorist, but maybe they see the unborn as being truly innocent, while the victims of suicide bombs...they see as being sopportive of what they deem to be the enemy.

[ken5050]

I don't understand your comment..I thought that Orthodox Judaism specifically bans abortion...and is stongly pro-life..look at the family size among Orthodox Jews..

[gobucks]

"And yet we are such ignorant, short-sighted morons that we actually keep a straight face while we complain about illegal immigration in this country."

The back connection to the USA didn't escape my attention. It's just I've lately come to conclude that at a mass cultural level, we are following Israeli cultural trends, not leading them. 9-11 is just the latest manifestation. But, the abortion part over the last 55 years. That was very, very new information to me.

[Piranha]

That's a very interesting table.

Abortion is a horror anywhere that it occurs, and a 13% abortion rate in Israel is awful.

However, the fact is that according to your table the abortion rate is higher not only in poor countries including Russia (61%), Ukraine (53%), Belarus (53%), etc., but also such western countries as Greenland (52%), Australia (26%), Sweden (26%), South Korea (25%), the US (24%), New Zealand (24%), Canada (24%), the UK (23%), Singapore (23%), Japan (22%), Italy (20%), Norway (20%), France (20%), Denmark (19%), Iceland (18%), Texas (!?) (17%), Finland (16%), Germany (16%), Spain (14%) and Switzerland (13%).

It is a worldwide tragedy.

[gobucks]

Many thanks for the link!!