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Dems Don't Get Terror Threat
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 10 Feb 04 | Nicole Gelinas

Posted on 02/10/2004 6:04:13 AM PST by Warrior Nurse

DEMS DON'T GET TERROR THREAT

By NICOLE GELINAS

February 10, 2004 -- PRESIDENT Bush's $530 billion expansion of Medicare won't kill anyone, and it can be reversed. Bush's tax cuts won't kill anyone, and they can be repealed. A $500 billion budget deficit won't kill anyone, and it can be repaid. Islamist terrorists can - and will - kill people. So voters who are unhappy with Bush's unchecked spending habit - and they have a point - had better hold their noses and come to the polls in November.

Islamist terrorists remain the clearest and most present danger to America. Yet the Democrats who represent themselves as the foreign-policy experts of the pack would turn the clock on national security back to the middle of the Clinton era.

Frontrunner Sen. John Kerry had this to say recently: "The War on Terror is . . . is occasionally military, and it will be . . . for a long time. . . . But it's primarily an intelligence and law-enforcement operation that requires cooperation around the world - the very thing this administration is worst at."

No one doubts that we must improve our intelligence-gathering capabilities. But 9/11 proved that international terrorism can't be halted with aggressive law enforcement.

Those who bombed the Trade Center in '93 are rotting in prison; that attack ended in a law-enforcement victory for America. But the Twin Towers are no more; throwing Ramzi Yousef in jail was no deterrent. Law enforcement is no answer when those who hate us will die to kill us.

Can the FBI help? Sure. But daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime. Libya's Moammar Khadafy isn't dismantling his weapons programs because he's afraid of the FBI - he just doesn't want to find himself at the bottom of a spider hole in 2005.

"And, most importantly," Kerry continued, "the War on Terror is also an engagement in the Middle East economically, socially, culturally, in a way that we haven't embraced, because otherwise we're inviting a clash of civilizations." This root-causes stuff isn't "most important" - it's a footnote to the real war.

It's fine, and even useful, for us to examine the motives and living conditions of our enemies. But we mustn't confuse this with self-defense.

Mohamed Atta had plenty of clean water and fresh food in Florida. Yasser Arafat has stashed hundreds of millions of dollars abroad while his subjects remain poor. It's a noble sentiment for us to want to better the lives of innocents abroad who have been victimized by their own leaders. But that's charity, not security.

Gen. Wesley Clark offers no alternative to Kerry's approach - only excuses.

"We always recognized that there was a threat of terrorism," Clark admonished Tom Brokaw when asked about the failures of the Clinton administration. "And we began in 1996, with Khobar Towers, to really work on the . . . anti-terrorism measures. . . . In '98, when Osama bin Laden issued a fatwa against the United States, there should have been, at that point, measures to go and get Osama bin Laden. I'm told that there were such measures that were attempted to be undertaken. Why they didn't work . . . I don't know."

Message: Don't blame President Clinton - he tried his best.

The Dems are focused on process, not results. Clinton knew bin Laden was a threat, and he attempted to "undertake measures." That bin Laden plotted to kill 3,000 Americans during the waning years of his term is irrelevant. Since Clinton didn't run afoul of multilateral institutions, he gets a pass.

Bush has toppled two totalitarian regimes, rescued millions from Saddam and killed or detained thousands of terrorists. But he's still an ideologue and an international rogue, so, the Dems say, he has to go.

What Bush has accomplished since 9/11 was not pre-ordained. After that day, lots of folks were wringing their hands, saying things would never be the same - that Americans, like Israelis, would just have to live with some level of terrorism.

Bush said no.

Bush invited legitimate criticism when he paired his geopolitical achievements abroad with his effort to stop steroid abuse at home in his State of the Union speech. He shouldn't stoop to the programmatic level of the candidates - because they can't rise to his.


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KEYWORDS: 2004; kerry
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To: Huck
Weren't the RATS in control of the Senate on 9/11?
21 posted on 02/10/2004 7:07:36 AM PST by petitfour
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To: mathluv
Please don't be taken in by NEW posters until we can gauge their agenda.

Get a grip, Grandma. I've been on FR longer than you. I am asking questions that are important to me. Don't like it? Then ignore it. But to suggest that asking questions is now akin to "stirring dicontent" is just silly. Get over it. Thanks.

22 posted on 02/10/2004 7:07:54 AM PST by Huck (I am voting for Bush, but I will question his performance at my own discretion.)
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To: Huck
Yes I guess there has to be all 3, but if we can use a predator drone like we did in Yemen to take 4 or 5 out at once that will be the first option. What Kerry is really saying is, let's use the military as a last resort.
23 posted on 02/10/2004 7:09:19 AM PST by petercooper (Tone down the garbage, the mean-mouthing, the tearing down of your neighbor and being so pompous.)
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To: petitfour
Weren't the RATS in control of the Senate on 9/11?

Yes, that is true. Good catch.

24 posted on 02/10/2004 7:10:14 AM PST by Huck (I am voting for Bush, but I will question his performance at my own discretion.)
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To: American_Centurion
You beat me to it. When I read this in the NY Post this am, I thought about changing my tag line.
25 posted on 02/10/2004 7:12:05 AM PST by petercooper (daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas, 02-10-04)
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To: Huck
The fiscal policy of our nation will evolve and "catch up"with our new reality, the war and our way of life. Do you doubt this?
26 posted on 02/10/2004 7:13:04 AM PST by TheGunny
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To: petercooper
I think there's room enough in that quote for both of us.

I gotta say, that girl has a way with words, really kinda hits me close to my heart.
27 posted on 02/10/2004 7:13:56 AM PST by American_Centurion (daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas)
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To: TheGunny
The fiscal policy of our nation will evolve and "catch up"with our new reality, the war and our way of life. Do you doubt this?

Yes.

28 posted on 02/10/2004 7:14:35 AM PST by Huck (I am voting for Bush, but I will question his performance at my own discretion.)
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To: Huck
" Seems like a nation-building, remake the map, idealistic adventure to me. A sideshow. Not sure I understand or agree with this sort of approach. Maybe by the time Novemeber rolls around, it will have been amply explained. I watched the President, but he did not convince me."

From the 2003 Sate of the Union address:

Before September the 11th, many in the world believed that Saddam Hussein could be contained. But chemical agents, lethal viruses and shadowy terrorist networks are not easily contained. Imagine those 19 hijackers with other weapons and other plans -- this time armed by Saddam Hussein. It would take one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country to bring a day of horror like none we have ever known. We will do everything in our power to make sure that that day never comes.

29 posted on 02/10/2004 7:14:46 AM PST by Broadside Joe
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To: Huck
Interesting.....
30 posted on 02/10/2004 7:15:33 AM PST by TheGunny
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To: Huck
"Get over it. "

Get a new expression. That one went out with "you go girl".

No Iraq/AQ connection? Two words: Salman Pak
The Iraq war is part of an entire strategy of middle east change. A strong military foothold in Iraq gives us viable military options and HUMINT while keeping tabs on Iran, Syria, etc.
John Kerry's "intelligence/law enforcement" policy says enough about his ideas on foreign policy. Essentially, he'll wait until we're hit again, then he'll send the FBI to arrest the suspects like they did with Ramzi Yousef et al. Ok, Yousef is rotting in prison here in Colorado, but that didn't prevent his "colleagues" from attacking the WTC again, this time with success.
I rather a president who preemptor's danger than one who thinks the cops can protects us.
A vote for Kerry is a vote for Al Qaeda.
Democrats are cowards.
31 posted on 02/10/2004 7:22:59 AM PST by Rocky Mountain High
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To: Warrior Nurse
I searched on NICOLE GELINAS for any articles in ajc.com with no luck. A Yahoo search reveals her writing articles for other papers like the NY Post.

Where is the URL for this article?

32 posted on 02/10/2004 7:23:26 AM PST by sr4402
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To: Rocky Mountain High
The Iraq war is part of an entire strategy of middle east change

I know.

33 posted on 02/10/2004 7:24:25 AM PST by Huck (I am voting for Bush, but I will question his performance at my own discretion.)
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To: Huck
There's nothing wrong with it on the surface. And you are absolutely correct that the war on terror has law enforcement aspects and requires the assistance of other countries.

The issue, to me, is in the level of commitment and the willingness to treat the war on terror as a war. Meaning continued aggressive military action until the threat is 100% nullified.

Not "occasionally" but "continuously." Will Kerry be proactive on this, or will he need to be dragged into it?

My feeling is that it is going to be more of what we have seen in the past from him. Namely that he has built a career on being a war hero who is fundamentally anti-war.

There is nothing wrong with this and many fine Americans have fit this description.

But it is not what we need now.

34 posted on 02/10/2004 7:25:31 AM PST by hedgie
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To: Warrior Nurse
it's not that they don't 'get' the threat, they just don't believe that any one of them will actually be a victim of terrorism, but that when others are, they can step in and increase the size of government (even larger than W is making it)
35 posted on 02/10/2004 7:26:46 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Remember, God made you special and He loves you very much!)
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To: Burkeman1
What do you say to post #29?
36 posted on 02/10/2004 7:28:38 AM PST by Huck (I am voting for Bush, but I will question his performance at my own discretion.)
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To: sr4402
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/17539.htm
37 posted on 02/10/2004 7:29:23 AM PST by petercooper (daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas, 02-10-04)
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To: Warrior Nurse
Destroy the Left at every opportunity.

Admit nothing, provide no apologies or excuses.

Parry each thrust and shoot to kill.
38 posted on 02/10/2004 7:32:57 AM PST by Stallone (Guess who Al Qaeda wants to be President?)
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To: Huck
What I say to it is...

It is a time-honored tactic of grossly overestimating the capability of your bogeyman in order to secure compliance from the populace for doing what you want to do anyway.

At some point, Saddam had chem/bio weapons. Most of what he had was crude, and his delivery systems were not very effective unless you were in a Kurd village or massed Iranian troops. There are model airplane enthusiasts who can build something more sophisticated that his "drones."

The question is whether the terrorists on 9/11 succeeded beyond their wildest expectations, or whether is was the tip of the iceberg. I tend to believe the former. And if you believe the former, the perpetual war on terror can easily be seen as the best excuse ever devised for a government power grab.

Nomex on.

39 posted on 02/10/2004 7:34:42 AM PST by lugsoul (And I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: Warrior Nurse

40 posted on 02/10/2004 7:35:00 AM PST by rhema
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