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To: summer
Summer, I'm reposting this from another thread. Has some info you and ALL the others here might want to digest, Very Best FReegards, Defender2 D2

Enough is Enough!!!! President Bush early in his young carrer served with the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron, 147th Fighter Interceptor Group, Aerospace Defense Command(ADCOM) Gained/Air National Guard unit tasked as part of Our Air Defenses at the time with F-102A/TF-102A Interceptor aircraft pulling Air Defense Alert Duty as part of Our Nation's then Prevalent Air Defense. At the same time, the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group was also partly responsible for training F-101B/F A.N.G Interceptor Pilots initially assigned to other ADCOM/ANG assinged Air Defense Units. The President today, said His unit was assigned was assigned to Aerospace Defense Command.

The Last "True To The Faith" Air Defense Commander, General Daniel "Chappie" James was appointed to NORAD/ADCOM C in C
status by then President Gerald R. Ford in 1973. The U.S. Congress(Democratically controlled at the time) and Then President James Carter fired general James in 1978 as General James was Adamantly fighting to keep Our Nation's Air Defense (ADCOM) intact as a Major Direct Reporting Unit in the U.S. Air Force. President Carter appointed "Yes Man", General James E. Hill as General James Replacement. Aerospace Defense Command was abolished, 1 september, 1979. Thus the seeds of September 11th, 2001 were planted!!!!

Many lessons some of which were learned by the English during WWII, including Air Vice Marshall Kieth Park's, "Two Minute Scramble" lesson during the Battle of Britain where many of Our Air Defense were lessons were learned, were subsequently thrown away!!!!

Air Defense continued to Dwindle under President William Jefferson Clinton to the point where under 10 Air Defense Sites on duty at the time of September 11th, 2001. Also Under President Clinton, Strategic Air Command and Tactical Air Command were abolished and assets were then assigned to the new austere Air Combat Command. While Our Defenses were cut to the bone. The Pork Barrels rolled in Congress and we gave millions to rogue nations we face as possible adversaries today.

President Bush Served Honorably in Our Nations Air Defense.

As a 28 year Veteran of the U.S.A.F. recently returning from Afghanistan and who also Devotedly served in Our Nation's Air Defense Command, I am Very Proud To Call President George W. Bush as my "Commander in Chief"!!!!

I thank the Lord Above for Him and so should
ALL of America. In these trying times We ALL have been Blessed with his Presidency!!!!
50 posted on 02/08/2004 4:14:41 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2
I thank the Lord Above for Him and so should ALL of America. In these trying times We ALL have been Blessed with his Presidency!!!!

As do I. Thank you, God, for this man, President Bush.

51 posted on 02/08/2004 4:21:14 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator; Alamo-Girl; ALOHA RONNIE; amom; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ...
Please read my info posted in number 50 above.
54 posted on 02/08/2004 4:23:22 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2

59 posted on 02/08/2004 4:28:29 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops, Past and Present)
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Thus the seeds of September 11th, 2001 were planted!!!!

I want you each to read what I am about to write very carefully. I have stood listening to a WWII era veteran, a former crewman of a heavy long-range bomber squandron telling me that we should never have removed conventional AAA (anti-aircraft systems) from our cities.

I have been ridiculed for repeating these words.

How can we ignore the lessons of our WWII veterans -- while they yet live to remind us of the horrors of WWII? Our enemies have learned from that conflict (starting with the Battle of Britain) what total war means. And they wish to visit upon us from the air, from sea, and on land. Yet we insult our wise veterans who merely ask us to reinstall basic weapons of air defense around our cities.

Harken the words of our wise and battle-scarred warriors who would tell us how they now feel personally responsible for letting politicians remove our defensive battlements.

And how grateful we must all be that only this year (this year!) missile defense systems will go online, beginning to protect our cities for the first time. Studies have shown that the average American has always believed these defenses to be in place. And yet we have had treaties on record agreeing not to defend ourselves! While these high-tech systems are reassuring, I think we should still maintain some sort of non-computerized, non-network dependant anti-aircraft capability. Our lack of ability to respond on 9/11 should prove that point. We may have to function in defending cities after much of our defense network has been rendered inoperable.

We can thank presidents Reagan and GW that these defenses are now beginning to be available to us. And we must NEVER let the lessons of 9/11 go unheeded. And we must listen to those grizzled, teetering, and shaky veterans who tell us: prepare for death from above. For they have seen it being dealt, and they have been party to its visitation on evil populations who would have destroyed ours had we not destroyed them first.

It is coming, and they are warning us to be ready. Are we listening? They will be dead and gone soon, and who will remind us?

66 posted on 02/08/2004 4:32:04 PM PST by risk
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To: Defender2; ohioWfan; DrDeb; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Thank you for this information, Defender2! (AND, thank YOU for YOUR service to OUR country!!!)

Tonk: You may want to send out a ping those in the USAF on your list.
72 posted on 02/08/2004 4:40:23 PM PST by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
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To: Defender2
Wow...thanks for the info and your service to the country...My hubby is in Irag and he too loves our great CinC.
77 posted on 02/08/2004 4:46:24 PM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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To: JohnHuang2
You might Very Much Want to Read My Post #50 Above. Very Best FReegards, Defender2 D2
88 posted on 02/08/2004 4:59:37 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: summer; Defender2; ALOHA RONNIE
Bumping a great thread.

God bless our FRiends who look past the daily spin for the truth!

94 posted on 02/08/2004 5:15:01 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Defender2
The information you post in #50 shows a very interesting history.

Thanks for the ping, your input and your service.

95 posted on 02/08/2004 5:15:38 PM PST by amom
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To: Defender2; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; TEXOKIE; Alamo-Girl; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...
Pinging the crew to the FR thread, and Defender2's #50 ~ defending our CinC's military record, and adding the missing link ~ missing in stories re. 911, terrorism, national defense, Iraq, Bin Laden, the corruption of the UN, the fallen press: XXX42.

My homepage link for visiting troops:

8 Transcript for Feb 8th, Meet the Press: President George W Bush, interviewed by Tim Russert ~ msnbc.com | 2/08/04 ~ pray for America's Commander-in-Chief ~ http://www.presidentialprayerteam.org/


104 posted on 02/08/2004 5:54:14 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Defender2
I agree.

It suffers from the problem of being factual. The Dems are the masters at this game - take the emotion-based cheap shot, and roll their eyes at the response. Looks like it's not going to change, if this accusation against the President is any indication.
159 posted on 02/09/2004 10:35:07 AM PST by P.O.E. (Then sigh not so, But let them go, And be you blithe and bonny - Shakespeare)
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